New York 180 (Endgame)

[goodmorning]

holy shit guys

we are probably at 2v5 rn

o m g

[goodmorning]

I HAVE POSITIVE FEELINGS ABOUT THIS GAME FOR THE FIRST TIME IN FOREVER

[goodmorning]

Though I suppose it could be 3v4.

[Cheetory6]

If it's 3v4 it's probably game over.

[dragonspawn]

VOTE: kitz

house busses his scum buddies like crazy when he is scum. I can see his sarcastic comments being truthful

[Marquis]

I HAVE POSITIVE FEELINGS ABOUT THIS GAME FOR THE FIRST TIME IN FOREVER

[dragonspawn]

L1 btw

[dragonspawn]

I'm good for lynching kits or marquis today

[goodmorning]

Unvote

guys

guys seriously why so quick

[Cheetory6]

cheetory whenever you have trouble understanding my posts just try parsing them abnormally as you read. actual tip

I don't even know what you're trying to say here and I'm still just being irked by me responding to you last day cycle and you ignoring me >:c

[Marquis]

UNVOTE:

sheeping

but yeah good night

[Marquis]

cheetory whenever you have trouble understanding my posts just try parsing them abnormally as you read. actual tip

I don't even know what you're trying to say here and I'm still just being irked by me responding to you last day cycle and you ignoring me >:c

i can't tell if you're purposefully culling your posts of all genuineness or if you're actually just scum.

gm help.

[Marquis]

"genuineness" can be replaced with "believability" in that sentence for the same yet more pleasing effect

[Cheetory6]

Are you going to just keep ignoring what I'm saying?
Is that the strategy now?
Because if so I can just votepark and call it a day. Odds of you being scum here feel pretty good and the ugly way you've chosen to engage me over and over again just feels terrible.

[Cheetory6]

Like, I feel like you don't really care what my alignment is. There hasn't been any effort to try and sort me and the continual fall-back/default to a scumread on me just feels like it's coming from scum continually trying and failing to push suspicion on me.
I responded to what you said last cycle and you ignored me. Now you're trying a whole new angle which makes me feel like you saw my response to yesterday's bullshit about meta and decided that was a bad angle.
Your opening this cycle was cheeky as fuck. Everything you've said about Kitz today is hedgey and inconsistent. I feel like the unvote right now was sheepy as fuck in a selfconscious way.

I also don't really think Kitz is scum and trying to read too hard into House's bullshit is going to lead to messy results.

[Cheetory6]

Pisskop link to Kitz isn't bad but like.. I just don't really feel like Kitz is scum. :/

[Marquis]

okay you can be town after those three posts.

the majority of my suspicion was centered around how I thought you were the kind of player to purposefully avoid the game as scum in a bad position, and i've been trying to draw posts like that out of you, posts with a certain degree of town commitment and inquisitiveness. right now I'm especially liking the emotion here.

and now that you're a townread I can finally show concern over you scumreading me. and I know this post probably looks scummy af on the surface, but i'm literally only thinking you're town as of those posts, this instant. and i need to write it down here before i go to sleep for real. gnight

[Marquis]

VOTE: shinobi

and gm we need to touch up on this. I let this read fall to the wayside with the TSO focus, but now that I'm feeling much much much more confident about my old reads around then I'm thinking this and/or kitz could be it.

[Shinobi]

VOTE: shinobi

and gm we need to touch up on this. I let this read fall to the wayside with the TSO focus, but now that I'm feeling much much much more confident about my old reads around then I'm thinking this and/or kitz could be it.

I was the counterwagon to scum you imbecile.

[Shinobi]

I can't say I'm surprised about TSO being a mass murderer at this point, because that's kind of why I had so much trouble with yesterday:
The pisskop shot didn't make sense from either of their perspectives. TSO had a townread on pisskop when he died.

[Shinobi]

I'm good for lynching kits or marquis today

I'm still unenthused with a Marquis wagon.

I feel like I've stated this several times but nobody seems to really listen at all.

[Shinobi]

I'm good for lynching kits or marquis today

I'm still unenthused with a Marquis wagon.

I feel like I've stated this several times but nobody seems to really listen at all.

I have reasons to start reconsidering this ftr, but it's not concrete one way or the other.
Will have to talk to Marquis at some point to solidify my read.

[Cheetory6]

VLA

[Kitz]

I asked a million fucking times about 3P being something else than SK and all of you said SK is the only acceptable role.
This changes

everything

.

Everyone denied the "Visit Kill Role" suggestion.

I think GC is town. I realised that he could have been a manipulated town and Ozgin is the true bad one.
Either way, the manner and the way it was done made me completely tunnel the pair.
Wasn't I also the one who pushed from GC to Ozgin? I could've stayed with GC.

I'm moving my vote to Ozgin. If there's a true neighbour thing but that Ozgin is a Scum, GC could be defending unknowingly.
VOTE: Ozgin

There were supposed to be a CC for ages and there never were. If it's the true Vigi, they did a very anti-town thing.

"Defending unknowingly" = a town defending scum situation.

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Unvote

guys

guys seriously why so quick

This makes me confused, would scum unvote at this point with a vote so close? I dunno at this point.

I just don't really feel like Kitz is scum. :/

GM : Town points for unvoting me, I'm not sure how I can interpret the whole ordeal about linking Piss with me, without checking the rest of the things, like if it's an excuse to get me. That combined by the UP mafia roles and OP town roles, logic just says this one is scum based on roles. Hmm. But MM isn't normal, so exceptions?
GC : Town points for fucking up with Ozgin, could genuine be a town who was verbally manipulated.
Cheetory : Town points for not wanting to lynch me, could've hammered me.
Dragon : Null, but the nature of him seems towny.
Shinobi : Scum points for not voting at all since the Elusive vote, has points against Oz but never voted him.
Marquis : Town points for not keeping the vote and moving votes. Scum points for not having a better case on me, suggests I'm dumbtown but would lynch anyway.

Conclusion from my point of view, Shinobi could be the remaining scum. If there's another scum, I'd like to FoS on GM but only when the game drags on after another scum flip.

Also, seriously? I have screamed all this fucking game that Meta is bullshit. You're associating me with Piss out of the blue as an early bus, I counter-logiced it with the circumstance that something's wrong with House and you should look there instead, and now you use House Meta against me? That's some meta bullshit right there.

VOTE: Shinobi

[Kitz]

About the visit thingie that I asked a million times.

Spoiler:

Oh wait. I get it.
It's possible it's a role that kills all visitors. Provoke everyone.
... I don't even think it's that.

1. Three attacks.
2. Healed, two deaths.
3. Single attack two nights.
= Visited a visit-killer. That's possible, right?

I still have that theory about a visit killer... If that's possible.

I have one question : Is either of these roles possible in Normal? Kill visitors, Multi-Direction-Shot.

Am I really the only one who's able to think outside the box here?

Anyways, soon off to the doctor so I won't be around for a bit.