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Post Post #700 (ISO) » Wed Apr 22, 2015 4:50 am

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havingfitz wrote:@Wicked...are you talking about random Idget's vote on Oka when you say "it's not enough to put someone at L-1 on D2? If so...does that do anything to your opinion of random Idgit? (aside from the fact he's in you stand by group of suspects)

random was the one that put Oka at L-1, but I was actually talking about Saul's reasoning. I believe Saul said he suspected Oka for POE, and I responded that that wasn't good enough for an L-1 bandwagon.

The horrible L-1 vote from random doesn't really change anything for me. It falls in line with the rest of his bad play. Also, I have thought and still think random is town.

massive wrote:I get a "no what do YOU think" and a lambasting of the mere suggestion of discussing it.

I wasn't trying to be rude. I didn't explicitly answer your VCA question because I thought my answer was obvious - I'm voting for vikingfan and I've also expressed suspicion of FA_Q2 - both of them were on the Monkey bandwagon.

In post 674, Saul Goode wrote:
In post 673, massive wrote:Sure. If Oka is scum and there's a viable bandwagon, his buddies aren't going to sit on Oka for towncred in the off-chance he gets lynched -- they're instead going to (at least one) vote for the counterwagon in an attempt to save their buddy. Make sense?

Yeah. I had forgotten Oka was the CW so I didn't put that together. Did anyone move from Oka to Monkey towards the end, though? That's the place to look if you are going to follow through with this plan...

Nobody switched their vote from Oka to Monkey, but it is worth noting that havingfitz said he was more suspicious of Oka the post before hammering Monkey. If Oka is scum, havingfitz is a nice candidate for partner.
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Post Post #701 (ISO) » Wed Apr 22, 2015 4:51 am

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still waiting on that random case
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Post Post #702 (ISO) » Wed Apr 22, 2015 5:00 am

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In post 701, OkaPoka wrote:still waiting on that random case

As in the case on you from Idget, yes?

Why not do something while waiting?
Make a case on someone. Ask some questions.
All this sitting waiting for results/answer/whatever is gonna be the death of us this game!
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Post Post #703 (ISO) » Wed Apr 22, 2015 5:07 am

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In post 677, Aristophanes wrote:
Oka is the better choice imo
, as the CWs yesterday are glaring.
It seems people are okay either way though, so here we are.

In post 678, Aristophanes wrote:VOTE: Idget

Uh what. :?

In post 688, vikingfan wrote:
In post 687, FA_Q2 wrote:I don’t think random is going to give us any info at all and is a sub par lynch compared to Oka.


The problem is, I don't want random anywhere near lylo. I agree oka is probably the most informative lynch, but if oka is town,
I think he could be very helpful in endgame
. I can't see random being that, whether he's town or not.

Might be a bit of a stretch...
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Post Post #704 (ISO) » Wed Apr 22, 2015 5:07 am

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In post 682, Formerfish wrote:Finace was in the emergency room tonight. I did not have time to do anything.

No worries, real life comes first. I wish you both the best of luck.

In post 694, Aristophanes wrote:
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You should title this thread "A Game of Pokes" for all the prodding and dodging :P

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Post Post #705 (ISO) » Wed Apr 22, 2015 5:09 am

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In post 701, OkaPoka wrote:still waiting on that random case

Are you referring to random's case on vikingfan? If so, what do you think of
my
vote for vikingfan?
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Post Post #706 (ISO) » Wed Apr 22, 2015 5:13 am

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In post 703, Wickedestjr wrote:
In post 677, Aristophanes wrote:
Oka is the better choice imo
, as the CWs yesterday are glaring.
It seems people are okay either way though, so here we are.

In post 678, Aristophanes wrote:VOTE: Idget

Uh what. :?

In post 688, vikingfan wrote:
In post 687, FA_Q2 wrote:I don’t think random is going to give us any info at all and is a sub par lynch compared to Oka.


The problem is, I don't want random anywhere near lylo. I agree oka is probably the most informative lynch, but if oka is town,
I think he could be very helpful in endgame
. I can't see random being that, whether he's town or not.

Might be a bit of a stretch...
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How will Oka be potentially helpful in Lylo?

As for the vote, wanted to psh for L-1 claim early so we could make a good decision in enough time to not be rushing, especially with all the inactivity.
I have since gone through and compared the two and like the Idget lynch better. Still want dat claim tho.
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Post Post #707 (ISO) » Wed Apr 22, 2015 5:20 am

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In post 706, Aristophanes wrote:As for the vote, wanted to psh for L-1 claim early so we could make a good decision in enough time to not be rushing, especially with all the inactivity.

We have five and a half days left - plenty of time to get a lynch through, even with inactivity. No need to force a claim from somebody that you didn't actually prefer to lynch.

Aristophanes wrote:I have since gone through and compared the two and like the Idget lynch better. Still want dat claim tho.

You voted random fifteen minutes after saying Oka was the better choice. You "have since gone through and compared the two" in fifteen minutes?
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Post Post #708 (ISO) » Wed Apr 22, 2015 5:21 am

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Between Oka and random, I think Oka is a much better lynch.
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Post Post #709 (ISO) » Wed Apr 22, 2015 5:21 am

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In post 688, vikingfan wrote:
In post 687, FA_Q2 wrote:I don’t think random is going to give us any info at all and is a sub par lynch compared to Oka.


The problem is, I don't want random anywhere near lylo. I agree oka is probably the most informative lynch, but if oka is town, I think he could be very helpful in endgame. I can't see random being that, whether he's town or not.

This is just silly.

What on this earth makes you think that Oka would suddenly change and start participating late in the game. His play is not suddenly going to get better on account of the day changing. Both are useless, Oka just has more interaction.
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Post Post #710 (ISO) » Wed Apr 22, 2015 5:26 am

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In post 707, Wickedestjr wrote:
In post 706, Aristophanes wrote:As for the vote, wanted to psh for L-1 claim early so we could make a good decision in enough time to not be rushing, especially with all the inactivity.

We have five and a half days left - plenty of time to get a lynch through, even with inactivity. No need to force a claim from somebody that you didn't actually prefer to lynch.

Aristophanes wrote:I have since gone through and compared the two and like the Idget lynch better. Still want dat claim tho.

You voted random fifteen minutes after saying Oka was the better choice. You "have since gone through and compared the two" in fifteen minutes?

Two separate things.

I liked Oka better, but Idget had more momentum and we've pretty much drained any info we can get out of Oka today without him actually saying things.
Idget had more potential to give us something to work with and I was, and still am, alright with either lynch.

I went through earlier today and relooked at Idget and am more in favour of it now, having done so.
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Post Post #711 (ISO) » Wed Apr 22, 2015 5:28 am

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Explain why you think Oka is a policy lynch. So far, everyone on his wagon has given explicit reasoning as to why he is a good candidate.

Random is a CLEAR policy lynch IMHO. He is being voted because he is useless.

This post reeks of contradiction as well. Random is the best lynch because…. Nothing and yet we should not lynch Oka because that is a policy lynch (which I think he is clearly not)???

I will never buy the too scummy to be scum defense either.
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Post Post #712 (ISO) » Wed Apr 22, 2015 9:06 am

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In post 697, Kop wrote:I think that Oka is town, from reading his posts whilst not being good at scumhunting and looking rather scummy, I personally think scum wouldn't be as careless than giving themselves up on a platter to eat from. So on that basis, I think that he isn't scum.

I don't like Policy lynches and it's striking me like that's what he is. However I think it's going to cause a few problems come later in the game, where we are going to feel that his lynch is going to be a case of best case scenario, but I'm hoping that once it does come to that stage, if he is town, to give us a stronger town reading than he is atm, and also give us some strong reads as to why we should look at others and not him. But right now, from what I have read, my strongest suggestion for a lynch, would be randomidget.

Hmmmm.....

My last post was supposed to include this quote. I have no idea where it went.
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Post Post #713 (ISO) » Wed Apr 22, 2015 10:47 am

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Kop, you don't think Oka is scum because he is too scummy to be scum?
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Post Post #714 (ISO) » Wed Apr 22, 2015 11:50 am

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once i get that random idget case i can do something stupid, like hammer him or somethin
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Post Post #715 (ISO) » Wed Apr 22, 2015 11:51 am

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ik this refers to me but too scummy to be scum is stupid
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Post Post #716 (ISO) » Wed Apr 22, 2015 12:36 pm

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In post 714, OkaPoka wrote:once i get that random idget case i can do something stupid, like hammer him or somethin

Do you want a case on Idget or from Idget?
Why do you consistently ignore everything but what you want to!?

You're really starting to piss me off tbh.

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To avoid oka shenanigans.
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Post Post #717 (ISO) » Wed Apr 22, 2015 12:37 pm

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In post 716, Aristophanes wrote:
In post 714, OkaPoka wrote:once i get that random idget case i can do something stupid, like hammer him or somethin

Do you want a case on Idget or from Idget?
Why do you consistently ignore everything but what you want to!?

You're really starting to piss me off tbh.

UNVOTE:
To avoid oka shenanigans.

i want the random case to see if my read on him is right.
i just wanna see a good case from him if he has one.
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Post Post #718 (ISO) » Wed Apr 22, 2015 12:43 pm

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In post 717, OkaPoka wrote:
In post 716, Aristophanes wrote:
In post 714, OkaPoka wrote:once i get that random idget case i can do something stupid, like hammer him or somethin

Do you want a case on Idget or from Idget?
Why do you consistently ignore everything but what you want to!?

You're really starting to piss me off tbh.

UNVOTE:
To avoid oka shenanigans.

i want the random case to see if my read on him is right.
i just wanna see a good case from him if he has one.

Okay, but do you have no thoughts on anything else in the game?
Are you just planning to hammer once he's here or allow more conversation?
How will him returning solidify your read as either good or bad, as it seems you're pretty set on it?
I mean, people have asked you things and you continuously ignore them. Are you purposely doing this or just not reading?
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Post Post #719 (ISO) » Wed Apr 22, 2015 12:46 pm

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Also, Oka, I don't recall and didn't see one in a quick iso-skim.
Did you ever make a case on idget yourself?
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Post Post #720 (ISO) » Wed Apr 22, 2015 12:48 pm

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This game is literally either lynch Random or lynch me.

Even if I make a case nothin is goin to happen because I'm not the best writer/convince-r. I'm pretty shit.

So if its either me or Random obviously i would prefer random.
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Post Post #721 (ISO) » Wed Apr 22, 2015 12:54 pm

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In post 720, OkaPoka wrote:This game is literally either lynch Random or lynch me.

Even if I make a case nothin is goin to happen because I'm not the best writer/convince-r. I'm pretty shit.

So if its either me or Random obviously i would prefer random.

But do you actually think he's scummy or is this just survival!?
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Post Post #722 (ISO) » Wed Apr 22, 2015 12:57 pm

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sadly its mainly survival.
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Post Post #723 (ISO) » Wed Apr 22, 2015 1:00 pm

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In post 722, OkaPoka wrote:sadly its mainly survival.

If you could day vig 1 person right now and end the day at that, who would it be and why?
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Post Post #724 (ISO) » Wed Apr 22, 2015 1:03 pm

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kelbris/kop

mainly because of his vt early claim and the fact that he buddied the dead cop.

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