Open 595: Elemental Mafia (Town Wins!)

[Flubbernugget]

I just said I don't have a case for or against those being scumhunting votes.

here, let me help: the votes that were quoted were all rvs votes
having said that

I can argue though that con's was not indicitive of a desire to scumhunt.

I'm quite certain that none of the votes made on page were not "indicative of a desire to scumhunt"

Last post I'm making on the subject

and why is that?

So here we go again random votes shouldn't actually be random etc etc. Every fucking game I swear. That's why I want to drop the subject. It's semantics, theory, and nothing useful.

Look at con's iso. There's half a read in it and nothing of substance that would incite a reaction. But this is okay because I'm wrong about his vote? Like I've brought up twice in one way or another that there's more to my scumread than the vote but that doesn't seem to matter because idk

[choof]

internet just took a dive so i'm on my phone atm
will do a Big Ass Post in the morning
until then
UNVOTE:

[FA_Q2]

“as I reason?”

I do not understand what you are exactly asking. I assume it is about my vote.

I did not vote in my first one because I thought more people had voted flubber and wanted to know where he was before placing my vote. I realized after I posted that the VC was right there and there was only one vote added after. I was mistaken when I thought he had a fast developing wagon – there just seems to be some interest there.

Your post seemed like the wagon on him was fast, but you never explained what you found scummy or why a concern for a fast wagon.

I clearly explained my reasoning. I gave 2 reasons – the opportunistic move to get a wagon and stating he would move his vote if he got another scum read without giving any motivation to go with it.

As far as fast wagons, they tend to be town because no one is actively resisting them and they can get a lynch before we are ready for one. There is always one "anti-town" townie that is willing to hammer an L-1 for the scum team without reason. That screws town over pretty hard.

[FA_Q2]

What do people think when you see someone in your game posting frequently elsewhere but not in your game? Do you think that's any sort of tell one way or another?

No, I actually do not.

I find that lurking happens with both alignments just as much. The idea that lurkers are usually scum trying to hide IMHO is false. Town does it just as often because the game stalls or others already said what there is to be said. My experience is limited on this game (around 10 games played now) though. All in all I think the quality of the posts made in between are the real indicators. Are they filled with gibberish or inconsistent or are they genuine?

[Ricastle]

Jesus, this thread is dead. Something needs to happen. Anyone got ideas?

[choof]

yeah I woke up an hour ago, apparently I was exhausted
I'm gonna be heading out in a bit so I don't have time to do too much but remember that we have at least a week left until deadline and there are, what, three people who haven't posted yet?
chill bruh

[Plotinus]

I'm hereish. I'm pretty excited for this setup. I'd had my eye on it for a while. Is everyone else excited? My cat is yelling at me and it's making it hard to think.

Senator, Ricastle, + anyone else with a join date in the last month or two, are you guys alts or are you newbies like me?

[Papi Bear]

Prod dodge... I'll be focusing on this game after my Newb game day ends.

Done.

Reading thread now.

[ConManMick]

Don't know if I make the cut, plot, but I'm new too. Heard about the site in July, forgot about it until a ToS marathon, signed up, shyed away and then came back!
Set up for this game sounded mad so I figured I'd give it a shot.

Speaking of inactives, Spartan is V/LA until tomorrow I think, and hasn't been able to check in. He's got coursework deadlines.

[Ricastle]

Yeah, I'm new, to this site anyway. I don't feel like disclosing my forum of origin here, though.

The setup's interesting. I like it.

[ConManMick]

Your past is shrouded in mystery... LIKE A MAFIA HITMAN!

[farside22]

“as I reason?”

I do not understand what you are exactly asking. I assume it is about my vote.

I did not vote in my first one because I thought more people had voted flubber and wanted to know where he was before placing my vote. I realized after I posted that the VC was right there and there was only one vote added after. I was mistaken when I thought he had a fast developing wagon – there just seems to be some interest there.

Your post seemed like the wagon on him was fast, but you never explained what you found scummy or why a concern for a fast wagon.

I clearly explained my reasoning. I gave 2 reasons – the opportunistic move to get a wagon and stating he would move his vote if he got another scum read without giving any motivation to go with it.

As far as fast wagons, they tend to be town because no one is actively resisting them and they can get a lynch before we are ready for one. There is always one "anti-town" townie that is willing to hammer an L-1 for the scum team without reason. That screws town over pretty hard.

I don't see how the second part is scummy.


Bored people can vote bela with me to see if she does something or continue crap posting.

[Bellaphant]

*tapdances* better?

Would you like me to argue about why obvious jokes are obvious?

I could argue that FA's vote on flub is silly, but I don't necessarily think fa is scum.

Actually, a better idea is to ask @farside: why you so bothered about my 'crap posting' when other people *cough*conman*cough* are arguably making less progress towards sorting the game. Also, what are your thoughts on plot/flub/choof?

@flub, any initial reads?
@papi, your thoughts?
Currently, I'd like to hear more from choof, as he promised a big post.

Also, plot, I'm pretty new.

[Plotinus]

I'm glad you did find the site again, Conman! I was playing on another forum for my first game but none of us knew what we were doing so we googled and found the wiki and then some of us signed up over here. Games here are pretty different than they are on the other place, the tone is different and the rules are different, and expectations for behaviour are different, but it's fun in both places. I have one completed newbie game here and one completed large theme game there. I'm not great at this but it's fun anyway.

pedit: @farside ok, i looked over your combined iso with bella and i'm just not seeing enough reason to sheep you on this. Your gut read is good enough for you, but I've got to consult my own gut. I did, but it's just grumbling something about a midnight snack.

+ I have a new rule about no voting after midnight.

pedit-again: hi bella. I know i'm fluffposting but a lot of people are still an indistinguishable mass of avatars to me at this time and I'm trying to do something about that. There will be less fluff from my slot later on.

[Flubbernugget]

Is there a reason you have such an interest in me

[Flubbernugget]

@farside you're saying conman's being wordy where he doesn't need to. Why doesn't that read as "fake?"

Where do you see con's fluffposting to be less fluffy than bella's?

[Alchemist21]

Menmonic and Spartan have been prodded. Optilex never confirmed his role, and will be immediately replaced by Wrong Song.

VC incoming.

[Wrong Song]

I'll be here tomorrow. Sorry folks it's almost 1am for me and I already made my quota in reading things tonight.

[lane0168]

Lol @farside calling out Bella for crap posting... farside, your shit sinks just as bad, and....

@bella, please do argue about how silly faq2s vote is silly. I see it as one of the more legit votes we've got so far

[lane0168]

Also welcome wrong song and thanks

[Wrong Song]

Don't know if I make the cut, plot, but I'm new too. Heard about the site in July, forgot about it until a ToS marathon, signed up, shyed away and then came back!
Set up for this game sounded mad so I figured I'd give it a shot.

Speaking of inactives, Spartan is V/LA until tomorrow I think, and hasn't been able to check in. He's got coursework deadlines.

VOTE: ConManMick

Are you RL friends with him? If not this could be a slip because there's no where that he's stated he's V/LA. So this is information that no one has.

[ConManMick]

Gaming buddy of mine, yes. I told him on Skype the game had started (I can transcribe messages if that's allowed / required), he told me he had to get his coursework deadlines sorted

[choof]

ugh then you guys might get modkilled for ootc unless mod is okay with a simple "hey the game started you dork go post"
sorry guys I might be v/la until saturday, I have a shit ton of stuff to do in the next few days
I'll probably also be kinda volatile on saturday because I'll be sore from work

[Ricastle]

lane, do you agree with FA's suspicions then?

[ConManMick]

Oh dear. I just told him the game had gone live, I didn't think that'd be an issue >.<