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[SleepyKrew]

This is me making a conscious decision to not respond to Mala (because it would just clog the thread with a pointless argument).

[pieguyn]

On the thor wagon there is:

Me who I know is town
Fen who was town
Pie who appears really townie and I cannot fathom at this point bussing
sthar8 who picked a really odd time to bus his partner if he's scum
SK is meh
Egg who seemed to be reading the game critically D1
Trojan who was the counter wagon

Off there's
Jason who could be a bus target by thor but probably isn't
Delta who seems town but also hasn't done much
Vyse who's done like nothing
Mala who I have discussed already
Boon who keeps poking in to take random potshots and deflect attacks due to meta but who really isn't actually doing anything

For me, the decision to townread the players on the Thor wagon wasn't arbitrary or simply because they voted thor. If you get lynched and are town it's not like we're going to ignore that fact. For now, though, I legit haven't seen a case on Egg that I liked, nor a case on anyone else on the Thor wagon. I've seen reasons to scumread you and Boon, I'm wary of Vyse kind of fluttering about (for all I know he walked into the game, saw two wagons and voted on the one that wasn't his scum buddy), I'm kind of reading Delta as town but I'm also unsure.

ftr, I agree with almost everything here. this is pretty much exactly where I'm at with reads except I think Boon is probably town.

it really doesn't make sense for a lot of the people on Thor D1 to be scum, and I think Delta off the wagon is likely town for reasons I've been explaining elsewhere. leaving: {Mala, Vyse, with an outside chance of SKrew}.

[Boonskiies]

Catching up since the last time I posted; still here.

[VysePresident]

So, I'm going to talk to my team about finding a replacement for me. I'm getting hit by a lot of RL stuff in quick succession, and I'm both incredibly overwhelmed & fatigued, to the point it's noticeably effecting my health, and I need to start cutting down on things I'm doing. It's practically impossible for me to catch up on the game, let alone pull my thoughts into something coherent enough to solve it.

I really didn't want to do this. I was really excited by the game, and I hate the way things have turned out, but I've wasted a ridiculous number of hours trying to catch up late at night, and the exhaustion is killing me. I feel like crap, but it's just not happening. Sorry guys. :/

(To be clear, this is

not

a request for mod-replacement.)

[jasonT1981]

I will be back properly after tomorrow. I have a funeral to attend in the afternoon, then the game should have my undivided attention again.

[Egg]

Vyse, are any of your teammates reading closely enough to basically control your vote if we get close to deadline?

[Trojan Horse]

Mala, let me echo SK here:

Also, have you explained these connections that rely on a DW flip?
(I have not been following along very closely!)

I too want you to explain these connections. These must be some strong connections, if they make you NOT want to lynch a top scumread.

Never mind. I found them. Apparently, reading helps.

If Delta flips scum:

I mean if DW flips scum; I'd probably go after TH for connection with this read because it makes sense in my head. For trying to derail a lynch on someone who I undoubtedly know is likely town.

If Delta flips town:

I'd probably reevaluate a shitton of my reads. There's been at least three or four games where I strongly townread scum and strongly scumread town.

I know at least these reads would either change/stay the same:

My TH read wouldn't flip to scum if you flipped town. TH would probably be high up on the town list close to almost confirm-town status.

I think my STD read would stay town because Iec had some strong D1 town-STD vibes.

I'd reevaluate my Boon read only because my paranoia would take place by then. I have strong townread players based on meta so I'd probably remove my main based meta read from Boon.

Egg would maybe be considered town.

[Trojan Horse]

Delta, have you figured out who your top scumread is yet?

[DeltaWave]

Still Boon. Mala is a contender but I'm going to look outside these 2 to make sure I'm not tunneling.

Post 1174 sounds a lot like "when you flip town I'm going to completely push the reset button" which is pretty much what scum do after a mislynch so alright.

[SleepyKrew]

Hi Bins

[Nexus]

Votecount 2.7:

Malakittens (4)-

Save The Dragons, pieguyn, SleepyKrew, Egg

DeltaWave (3)-

Boonskiies, Malakittens, jasonT1981,

Egg (1)-

sthar8

Not voting (3)-

Bins, DeltaWave, Trojan Horse

With 11 alive, it takes 6 to lynch. Deadline is at 6pm on the 30th April 2015. (expired on 2015-04-30 13:00:00)

Egg is v/la until Monday
jasonT1981 has emergency v/la
STD is v/la until Sunday 3rd May.

Bins has replaced VysePresident

[Malakittens]

Still Boon. Mala is a contender but I'm going to look outside these 2 to make sure I'm not tunneling.

Post 1174 sounds a lot like "when you flip town I'm going to completely push the reset button" which is pretty much what scum do after a mislynch so alright.

Nah. I reset reads when flips are town flips. I just go back reread etc.

I mean you directly asked me to explain what would happen if you flipped town and now you're trying to sling mud like that. Yeah no likely.

Its late, I had 5 hours of sleep because I was out wih my friends drinking last night.

[pieguyn]

hey Mala

step up and respond to 1309 instead of walking away. I dare you. you're caught, and you know it.

[Trojan Horse]

I am still V/LA. My dad got rushed to hospital in an ambulance yesterday morning. He was released last night but we are keeping an eye on him so my attention to the game will be minimal for a few days.

I will be back properly after tomorrow. I have a funeral to attend in the afternoon, then the game should have my undivided attention again.

jason, I hope these two events are unrelated...

Still wavering between Delta and Mala. Long work day today, but I'll try to make a decision tonight.

[pieguyn]

Still wavering between Delta and Mala. Long work day today, but I'll try to make a decision tonight.

I'll

bind myself and submit to your will

do anything if it'll get you to vote Mala here. ~

I really, really, really, really don't think Delta is scum. compared to Mala who, in addition to everything else this game day, just blatantly lied and is hoping she can skate by without anyone calling her on it.

[Trojan Horse]

Okay. Let's think about it this way. If I was scum, my scummate had been lynched day 1, and I was under pressure day 2, how would I react?

A lot more like Mala than like Delta, that's for sure.

Okay. Count me in the let's-lynch-Mala camp. But no vote yet, since that would put her at L-1. I want a claim.

[pieguyn]

<3

[Nexus]

sthar8 has been prodded

[sthar8]

I'm here, just incredibly frustrated.

I'll compromise on a mala vote if it means pie's not in crazy tunnel land tomorrow.

I guess that's intent.

[SleepyKrew]

Hi Bins

[pieguyn]

I'll compromise on a mala vote if it means pie's not in crazy tunnel land tomorrow.

if Mala flips town, I'm more than happy to step back and reevaluate

I'm very very cautious about strong arming reads in games where I've been proven to be wrong. plus the only reason I really pushed so hard today was bc I feel really really strongly about this (and I don't have any other scum reads I feel strongly about).

[Egg]

Prod dodge

[jasonT1981]

Hi Bins

I may be OVERLY stretching here... but this was posted BEFORE the mod confirmed Bin replacing into the game.

Scumslip? Since the mod had not announced it yet, is it logical to assume Bin had gotten the role, and posted in the scum topic BEFORE mod announced it.

SK welcomes Bin 45 minutes BEFORE mod even announces it to the game?

[jasonT1981]

I am still V/LA. My dad got rushed to hospital in an ambulance yesterday morning. He was released last night but we are keeping an eye on him so my attention to the game will be minimal for a few days.

I will be back properly after tomorrow. I have a funeral to attend in the afternoon, then the game should have my undivided attention again.

jason, I hope these two events are unrelated...

Still wavering between Delta and Mala. Long work day today, but I'll try to make a decision tonight.

Thankfully not related. Dad got home from hospital and was given the all clear. However, a friends grandfather passed away over the weekend and the funeral was yesterday morning. I had hoped to post last night, sorry. I was only on to do a VC in my own modded game and then to bed.

[SleepyKrew]

Hi Bins

I may be OVERLY stretching here... but this was posted BEFORE the mod confirmed Bin replacing into the game.

Scumslip? Since the mod had not announced it yet, is it logical to assume Bin had gotten the role, and posted in the scum topic BEFORE mod announced it.

SK welcomes Bin 45 minutes BEFORE mod even announces it to the game?

lol
zoraster had already announced it in the main thread.