New York 180 (Endgame)

dragonspawn · Post Post #6400 (ISO) » Sat Apr 25, 2015 12:37 pm

@marquis

cheetory said you were townreading him and did an about face to scum reading him. Would you characterize this as accurate?

I haven't noticed you respond to the claim. Why did you start scum reading cheetory and when?

Marquis · Post Post #6401 (ISO) » Sat Apr 25, 2015 12:52 pm

what

i vaguely remember townreading him sometime earlier, don't remember why

then started scumreading him when it got to that "i keep forgetting he's in the game" point, combined with knowing some of cheet's town/probtown meta involved him being active and engaged

his early explanations didn't do much to sway me

then he made those last few posts like a page or two or three ago and i liked them

Cheetory6 · Post Post #6402 (ISO) » Sat Apr 25, 2015 1:18 pm

Marquis wrote:i think you fail to understand that this is a compulsion as scum that's hard for me to overcome and nearly impossible here comsidering my earlier feelings toward this game

Can you explain this a little more clearly?

Marquis wrote:in fact if it weren't for how lately i'm pretty sure i have a significantly better grip on what your towngame's like, i'd be surprised that i haven't flipped back and thought you were scum for attacking me again like this. but i've seen you as town and i'm confident enough that you're both town here and worth trying to change your read on me.

Ok.. but since when do you have any experience with my scumgame? How can you say with this level of confidence that I'm town and you're not townreading me for null things? That doesn't make any sense to me -.-

dragon wrote:cheetory said you were townreading him and did an about face to scum reading him. Would you characterize this as accurate?

Hi dragon. You flipped it. He was scumreading me and then about-face started townreading me.
Are you going to ignore the rest of my case here or what?
-.-

Marquis wrote:then started scumreading him when it got to that "i keep forgetting he's in the game" point, combined with knowing some of cheet's town/probtown meta involved him being active and engaged

Blehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.
This is such a weak analysis of my general meta. What scumgames of mine have you looked at if any?

Marquis · Post Post #6403 (ISO) » Sat Apr 25, 2015 1:22 pm

In post 6402, Cheetory6 wrote:Ok.. but since when do you have any experience with my scumgame? How can you say with this level of confidence that I'm town and you're not townreading me for null things? That doesn't make any sense to me -.-

i don't!

i'm trusting that with with 1-2 scum left, your current engagement and genuine-sounding posts regardless of meta come from town!

if you're scum you can try to prove me wrong if you want but i'm guessing that's not in your best interest!

Cheetory6 · Post Post #6404 (ISO) » Sat Apr 25, 2015 1:28 pm

It's less that I'm trying to prove you wrong and more that I don't believe that you'd townread me this strongly for metareasons when you haven't even seen my scumgames and it bothers me even more that you pushed me for coming across like someone who would lurk as scum without having even checked that. -.-

Marquis · Post Post #6405 (ISO) » Sat Apr 25, 2015 1:43 pm

it's more like that set of 3 posts i like earlier were so so so town and genuine on their own and from what i know of your towngame they just synced to help with that read more

like even now i'm seeing that town-and-i-know-i-am mindset i was constantly yelling at tso for not having

dragonspawn · Post Post #6406 (ISO) » Sat Apr 25, 2015 2:08 pm

@cheetory

Sorry for getting it backwards. I've been questioning marquis for my own reasons. I'm also second guessing myself for my own reasons. I will likely.vote for marquis if I see no better options.

The only ones I refuse to consider voting for are gc and gm at this point

Shinobi · Post Post #6407 (ISO) » Sat Apr 25, 2015 3:18 pm

In post 6406, dragonspawn wrote:@cheetory

Sorry for getting it backwards. I've been questioning marquis for my own reasons. I'm also second guessing myself for my own reasons. I will likely.vote for marquis if I see no better options.

The only ones I refuse to consider voting for are gc and
gm
at this point

Why?

Shinobi · Post Post #6408 (ISO) » Sat Apr 25, 2015 3:19 pm

Marquis PoE'ing me as the last scum is literal dick. I can't even argue with "PoE." Useless.

Shinobi · Post Post #6409 (ISO) » Sat Apr 25, 2015 3:22 pm

In post 6398, Marquis wrote:also i'm fairly sure kitz's experience/interpretation of mass murderer is spot on and explains the death history

i just dont know if its bp or not which is pretty much the only thing i wish ika would clarify

If it's anything like the SC2mafia permutation of the role, absolutely.

dragonspawn · Post Post #6410 (ISO) » Sat Apr 25, 2015 7:24 pm

Ozgin was a neighbor with gc. Two scum in a neighborhood of two makes no sense. It serves no purpose. He is definitely town firm as far as I'm confirmed

I suspect we have one scum left. Gm is a neighizor. I'm thinking a town one. I suppose she could be scum neighborhood. But I would like to give gm a chance to prove that ability. If gm is the last scum, no one can be neighborized when a no occurs. Now it's quite possible gm tried to neighborize tso, but I'd like to give gm at least one more night to provoke not being scum before I consider a lynch.

goodmorning · Post Post #6411 (ISO) » Sun Apr 26, 2015 3:39 am

The nice thing is that I have a couple pretty good options of people to Neighbourise tonight.

goodmorning · Post Post #6412 (ISO) » Sun Apr 26, 2015 3:40 am

I also have a fever so don't expect much coherence from me for a little while.

Green Crayons · Post Post #6413 (ISO) » Mon Apr 27, 2015 1:25 am

Shin, why didn't you take a side in the TSO/Ozgin debate?

goodmorning · Post Post #6414 (ISO) » Mon Apr 27, 2015 2:22 am

Didn't he?

Green Crayons · Post Post #6415 (ISO) » Mon Apr 27, 2015 2:55 am

He didn't vote either TSO or Ozgin.

+

I recall him saying something to the effect of "both TSO and Ozgin are bad."

Green Crayons · Post Post #6416 (ISO) » Mon Apr 27, 2015 2:55 am

In post 6413, Green Crayons wrote:Shin, why didn't you take a side in the TSO/Ozgin debate?

Let me rephrase:

why didn't you do act during the TSO/Ozgin debate?

Cheetory6 · Post Post #6417 (ISO) » Mon Apr 27, 2015 3:07 am

Shinobi wrote:Marquis PoE'ing me as the last scum is literal dick. I can't even argue with "PoE." Useless.

Okay.
What does it make you think of him?
And what do you think of my case on him?

Marquis wrote:like even now i'm seeing that town-and-i-know-i-am mindset i was constantly yelling at tso for not having

I thought you were on TSO's case for seeming too sure of himself/attacking people for pushing him?

Zzzzzzzzzz.

Cheetory6 · Post Post #6418 (ISO) » Mon Apr 27, 2015 3:09 am

Bleh. This game sucks.
q.q

Marquis · Post Post #6419 (ISO) » Mon Apr 27, 2015 5:48 am

wow you suck
why does everyone keep misrepresentating my reads
like
ugh

Marquis · Post Post #6420 (ISO) » Mon Apr 27, 2015 5:48 am

misrepresenting*
incomplete autocorrect correction

Cheetory6 · Post Post #6421 (ISO) » Mon Apr 27, 2015 5:51 am

ugh i like asked you to clarify because i can barely remember shit that happened a month ago in this game.
Don't give me sass >:c

dragonspawn · Post Post #6422 (ISO) » Mon Apr 27, 2015 6:16 am

In post 6416, Green Crayons wrote:
In post 6413, Green Crayons wrote:Shin, why didn't you take a side in the TSO/Ozgin debate?

Let me rephrase:

why didn't you do act during the TSO/Ozgin debate?

it's a good question..

sorry I'm not that talkative. Feeling sick and starting to lose interest in everything that isn't sleep.

Shinobi · Post Post #6423 (ISO) » Mon Apr 27, 2015 6:37 am

In post 6413, Green Crayons wrote:Shin, why didn't you take a side in the TSO/Ozgin debate?

I explained why at the start of day: neither side made sense when taking the pisskop shot into account.

Plus, Ozgin hammered himself.

Shinobi · Post Post #6424 (ISO) » Mon Apr 27, 2015 7:25 am

In post 6417, Cheetory6 wrote:
Shinobi wrote:Marquis PoE'ing me as the last scum is literal dick. I can't even argue with "PoE." Useless.
Okay.
What does it make you think of him?
And what do you think of my case on him?

I have mixed feelings about Marquis. I still think that the transparency of his stances and his frustrations reads as very town, considering it's the one thing I've seen 0 of in his scumgames and in my own experience with him.
But he's still throwing me out there as "last scum" for little to nothing. Kind of annoying. I don't think it's

overly

scummy at this juncture but it depends on how hard he winds up pushing it.