Open 595: Elemental Mafia (Town Wins!)

[BlueBloodedToffee]

It's Papi toDay.

We're not running somebody else up with that awful claim.

[farside22]

It's Papi toDay.

We're not running somebody else up with that awful claim.

Why is it awful other then scum could claim it?
Why are you allowing conman to lurk through this game?

[TheReverend]

@rev, what is a Chinese fire-drill?

It's where we spend most of the day in an orderly fashion, then at the last minute we all flail our arms in the air while running in different directions. A panic lynch, basically.

[TheReverend]

I don't like the lets have a lynch or Rev's I want to catch up

Why? It's super standard. In fact as scum I doubt I'd dick about, I'd just get on with it in an effort to make the right impression. As town I don't really care what impression I make.

[Alchemist21]

VC 1.10

(6)Papi Bear:

BlueBloodedToffee, Ricastle, Plotinus, Flubbernugget, RationalMadman, Bellaphant

(2)Bellaphant:

lane, Senator

(2)RationalMadman:

Davesaz, FA_Q2

(1)Flubbernugget:

ConManMick

(1)Davesaz:

Papi Bear

(1)lane0168:

Wrong Song

(1)Ricastle:

The Reverend

(1)ConManMick:

farside

Not Voting: Choof

With 16 alive it takes 9 to lynch.

Deadline is in (expired on 2015-05-03 12:00:00)

[farside22]

FYI farside, I more or less follow a formula for replacing in, in an attempt to attain balance.

I say hi, and then start reading up and making notes, making sure to vote ONLY after I'm fully up to date. Whether town or scum. Me holding back my vote at this stage is 100% null as fuck, because I'm still doing what I consciously try to do as either elignment.

You should know this, surely? You shouldn't expect me to make a sloppy vote based on half a thread.

I don't like the lets have a lynch or Rev's I want to catch up

Why? It's super standard. In fact as scum I doubt I'd dick about, I'd just get on with it in an effort to make the right impression. As town I don't really care what impression I make.

let me know which one is accurate.

[Senator]

We have to be prepared to risk lynching a doc, that's my point. A doc claim should not be considered immunity from lynch.

I don't like how you aren't willing to give a player who admits to not reading the game and claimed doc a day to sort himself out. There's plenty of players to sort through here. His claim didn't look in any way faked.

You're caught up then?

@Sen, what looks legit to you? The whole post is bizzare...'if you want to lynch me because of this excuse': wut? Surely, if the claim was legit, you'd be demanding NOT to be lynched? The way the post is phrased also reads like it is more important that a) he read the thread and b) has reads before c) his claim.

He's also not made a case on why his scum-reads are scum, or tried to get them lynched. Also, the attention to vettrock (davesv) (caps and swearing) is really odd, especially as they don't come under the 'scum-team'

Not buying it.

@rev, what is a Chinese fire-drill?
@bbt, we talking about my question to you?

We're supposed to lynch him because he's not a native English speaker? We have 5 days to make a lynch or even discuss this. Why are you rushing this?


Farside, why aren't you voting Rev?

vote: Reverend

[Bellaphant]

@bbt, 438. You seemed to be concerned about me missing something, and I genuinely didn't/don't get it. (Know Ric has responded, but...)

Thanks, rev.

@Far, lane has also gone weirdly quiet while the papi-wagon was going down.

@mod, is he due a prod?

. Con is also coming up to prod-range, while the pressure has dropped on him. Ugh.

[Bellaphant]

Sen? What, mate?? The only part of my post language could be an issue with is the 'excuse' bit. Not being a native English speaker doesn't explain why he hasn't tried to get his scum-reads lynched, why his claim came where it was, or the attention to dave/vet.

Why would you mis-rep a post that badly?

[FA_Q2]

I don't even understand why we are waiting for claims in this setup. Also cc'ing a doc right now is impossible/dumb unless I'm missing something

I am missing something: there's more than just the docs in this setup

Would you bother to read the op and the setup.

That is plain lazy as hell flubber – there is no excuse to not go back and read the EXPLICIT setup for this game. There are 3 doc’s and a backup but the doc powers are very weak.

It is worth noting that lynching a doc does not remove the doc from the field as the backup is there.

[FA_Q2]

I'm starting to think both senator and farside are scum.

Why? The reactions from both those players are quite standard here at this site when someone wants to lynch a claimed doc.

I think that the fact the doc roles are very weak in this game and the backup makes lynching a doc similar to lynching a VT does not really click in immediately as doc is usually a very good PR.

[FA_Q2]

So how is that claim scummy? It looked okay to me, aside from not being crumbed.

@Papi

Did you crumb that somehow?


PS: How is claiming backup like IC? Its a weaker CCable role, that's all.

Because it cannot be counter claimed.

[FA_Q2]

The whole with Spartan is probably best dropped. There's too many what-ifs to read into it, especially now that Spartan isn't going to be playing. Leaving that bit out, how do you feel about him?

Agreed only because he is not playing so any digging there is not possible. I don’t have a good read on reverend at this time. He has posted a lot but not sure if he is town. I really don’t have any strong town reads and I have already posted my scum reads.

[Alchemist21]

Conman and Lane have been prodded. I'm still seeking a replacement for Choof.

[FA_Q2]

Not interested in that discussion right now Ricastle.

Why?

You are looking for information on a lynch but not willing to talk about what information that lynch might give us?

This really stinks of scum to me. I had you as solidly town but this makes me wonder about that.

[lane0168]

Not much going on on page 7...

168 - Lane, this post got my spidey senses tingling. Why are you so defensive of Bella?

My town-read on ConMan has evaporated. Flubber looks a little better.

At what point did she turn from your scum read to defending her And calling her town?

So you think Bella slithered away? If so why?

My last catch up post I started null read based on her response and then further responses from her moved her to town.

No. I was asking how in the world you went from scum read to defending. But yeah I think she deflects a lot.

Btw phone catch ups SUCK! sorry if I post a bunch

@bbt I wasn't defending bella. That's why I said just as much, as in its funny/ironic when someone calls someone out when they're doing the exact same thing.

[lane0168]

Bella, I can adapt to new information, and I got new information, that you can't discuss, and it helps my suspicions

[TheReverend]

Why? The reactions from both those players are quite standard here at this site when someone wants to lynch a claimed doc.

It's more their attitude towards me. I feel like there's no attempt to get a feel for me, when both of them should have a better than average ability to do so. Farside more so. I didn't like her reaction to the claim, but that in iteself isn't why I'm concerned.

let me know which one is accurate.

Why can't both be accurate? Why are you making these comments out to be incompatible with one another? I do repalce into games with that mindset, following a neutral agenda while I settle in. The point I'm making in my second comment is that I'm more likely to abandon that plan as town than scum, because not bothering to read up fully and being open about it isn't exactly likely to win me many friends.

I feel like you're twisting my words here, this doesn't give me a sense of "getting a feel for me", this is agenda driven.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

601 - It;s awful because of the reasons I stated Farside.

ConMan can get lynched Tomorrow. ToDay, it's Papi.

607 - Oh, I was just talking about the scum motivation behind Ric defending everyone over their RVS votes in his attack against Flubber. I'm not very interested in discussing this further right now though.

614 - FA, I feel this should be pretty obvious. It directs scum. If everyone starts giving opinions on what a flip might mean for them, scum have more information to work with when deciding who to kill.

There is no use speculating on a flip. Let's wait until we have solid information.

You had me as 'solidly town' and one post changed that? Couldn't have been that solid.

[lane0168]

Hello, my homies. This player asks which one of you is mafia?

Does anyone else find this odd? Like she she can't handle the pressure?

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Hey Lane, can you make use of your vote and place it on Papi please?

[lane0168]

vote lynch whatever, does that count?

You know how to vote correctly... why didn't you remedy with instead of questioning if it counts? Fix it. When it happens. But I guess if you dint truly want to be on the wagon? Weird

[lane0168]

Maybe. bbt, what do you think of jeannes post. Answer the question. Don't give me this I'm not interested in discussing this now Bull shit. Anyone else can answer as well

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Lane, I'm not interested in discussing that right now.

Do you think it's likely that Bella gets lynched toDay?

In fact, the only people I feel are actually trying to lynch the people they're voting for are Farside, FA and maybe Dave.

[lane0168]

Hard to say with your continued attempts to quell potentially useful conversation.