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Post Post #1525 (ISO) » Fri May 08, 2015 9:45 am

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In post 1411, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:
In post 510, FA_Q2 wrote:
In post 474, Papi Bear wrote:tough crowd...






Can I please give my thoughts first? >.>

Not only can you but you should. However, if they are the same thoughts you have been giving then don’t bother – BBT was spot on when he called you out for not taking a stance on anyone. You continue this trend in every post you make.

You are not posting thoughts that are useful when you state this person could be scum or they could be town. That is pretty well established already – tell us who you think is scum and WHY.

I can go with this lynch today I think. I will vote later though if it looks as though this is the lynch for today.

I would prefer RMM though.

321 was REALLY bad and that has been beaten to death.
In post 357, RationalMadman wrote:I genuinely cannot find a single townslip or scumslip or anything form anyone. This is unusual for me.

Nothing.
Then:
In post 358, RationalMadman wrote:Plotinus' attitude, however, is what I call 'over the top' style of scum-play. The typical tryhard scum attitude. Overdoes any explanation etc.

And
In post 359, RationalMadman wrote:But then again tryhards can be VERY useful town members so I really am struggling here.

Takes a stance and then runs from it in the very next post. More nothing.

And tops it off with:
In post 488, RationalMadman wrote:yay for bandwagons VOTE: Papi

Really! No issue with players joining wagons on scummy players but at least have a better reason than because everyone else is doing It at the time.

This runs from a stance much more than Papi does, contributes less and has posted 2 things that make me really think he is scum – runs to a PL and jumps on the first available wagon that might get a lynch without bothering to add any thoughts or agree with anything. Just states yay for bandwagons. Wth…

I still read flubber as slightly scummy but he is not as scummy as these 2. I don’t really agree with the bella scum read, she is null for me. This is mostly based on the last game I played with town bella – the style just seems similar IMHO. Will look harder at bella when I have more time to.

This is an interesting post from FA. Where did your suspicion of Flubber go?

You read Flubber as slightly scummy - yet you started D2 sounding pretty convinced that you thought Flubber was scum;
In post 896, FA_Q2 wrote:
Really because I think that flubber was BLATANTLY scum. Much more than even papi IMHO.

Yes, one mafia and one sk.

There are a few things not adding up here. Your latest stated read on Flubber was 'slightly scummy', this attempt to make your read stronger appear stronger than what it was is a push for town cred I believe.

You then state you will join the lynch (Papi's lynch) if it's the lynch for the Day. But, you would much prefer to lynch RMM instead. Then you joined the RMM wagon. Can you explain your thought process here? Why did RMM suddenly become so scummy? You had posted after 3 of his posts that you quoted you had a problem with, why did you not address the issue sooner?

I think you saw RMM as a good opportunity to stop bussing and push a potential counter-wagon to Papi.

VOTE: FA

It was still there. I was the only one pushing flubber and that wagon gained absolutely no traction whatsoever so I moved on.

What did you expect? I addressed the issue when I had to go looking for other scum suspects and found RMM rather scummy.
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Post Post #1526 (ISO) » Fri May 08, 2015 9:45 am

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Somehow those posted completely out of order.
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Post Post #1527 (ISO) » Fri May 08, 2015 9:47 am

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In post 1522, Bellaphant wrote:We can't lynch untik the docs have agreed how to protect me. Anyone derp hammering is the sk.
We need a claim from the backup doc.

Then it is possible to coordinate the three elements.
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Post Post #1528 (ISO) » Fri May 08, 2015 9:59 am

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In post 1522, Bellaphant wrote:We can't lynch untik the docs have agreed how to protect me. Anyone derp hammering is the sk.



This needs to happen!! Stop voting for a moment please.
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Post Post #1529 (ISO) » Fri May 08, 2015 10:00 am

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UNVOTE:
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Post Post #1530 (ISO) » Fri May 08, 2015 10:00 am

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Doc's claime element you will use in next post
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Post Post #1531 (ISO) » Fri May 08, 2015 10:02 am

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Dave
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Full claim. What are you?
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Post Post #1532 (ISO) » Fri May 08, 2015 10:07 am

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What Far said.

Also, can the docs give their Top Two SK picks??
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Post Post #1533 (ISO) » Fri May 08, 2015 10:36 am

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My 2 cents for sk is bbt or plot
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Post Post #1534 (ISO) » Fri May 08, 2015 10:38 am

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A few people have mentioned plot: why?
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Post Post #1535 (ISO) » Fri May 08, 2015 10:56 am

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Gonna risk it.
Elemental doc.
Protected farside with water last night. Happy to protect Bella with water again tonight.
Few drinks into a kings game, so if this was a bad decision to make, sorry guys. But yeah, I'll go water on Bella.
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Post Post #1536 (ISO) » Fri May 08, 2015 11:59 am

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In post 1529, FA_Q2 wrote:UNVOTE:


Aw I was gonna self hammer to teach you fuckers not to let outed scum get to L-1.
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Post Post #1537 (ISO) » Fri May 08, 2015 12:06 pm

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I've been catching up a few posts at a time, in between meetings at work. Got to the good stuff about 20 minutes ago.
I'm on board with coordinating elements.
Tracker tracks vanilla claims since we have exactly enough PR's claimed. We lynch from the untracked.
We get two nights of safety for the tracker (given the backup), then a 66% chance the 3rd night.

Coordinating the last night is complicated since the docs have to be separated but SK needs to not know which is which. I'll try to work out a scheme and post it before the hammer in case I'm the one who gets offed tonight.
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Post Post #1538 (ISO) » Fri May 08, 2015 12:08 pm

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EBWOP unless we get a guilty that is... should be obvious but best to be clear. ;)
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Post Post #1539 (ISO) » Fri May 08, 2015 12:11 pm

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WAIT only one other doctor needs to claim and state element, then the last can stay (relatively) hidden i.e 50/50/doc or backup remaining. Not a whole heap of difference but hey.
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Post Post #1540 (ISO) » Fri May 08, 2015 12:22 pm

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In post 1539, ConManMick wrote:WAIT only one other doctor needs to claim and state element, then the last can stay (relatively) hidden i.e 50/50/doc or backup remaining. Not a whole heap of difference but hey.



That's fine too.

Glad to see you on board Dave.

Oh I was asked about plot.

It's a weird reason really. When I was talking about how best to handle the situation and claims he bypassed it completely.

To me BBT was more blanetly avoiding the convo and trying to bully past it. I believe he is more likely sk.
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Post Post #1541 (ISO) » Fri May 08, 2015 12:29 pm

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I'm scum
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Post Post #1542 (ISO) » Fri May 08, 2015 12:33 pm

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In post 1541, TheReverend wrote:I'm scum



Yes I know.

I was sad when I thought as much day 1.
You know you should have killed me.
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Post Post #1543 (ISO) » Fri May 08, 2015 12:34 pm

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Nah I should've let flub do the killing
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Post Post #1544 (ISO) » Fri May 08, 2015 1:34 pm

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Yeah, I would nevee have tracked that
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Post Post #1545 (ISO) » Fri May 08, 2015 1:40 pm

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In post 1453, TheReverend wrote:God conman just give toffee town cred for killing scum instead of a PR suspect, stop being difficult.

Still reading up but this one actually made me laugh. (no additional townpoints though)
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Post Post #1546 (ISO) » Fri May 08, 2015 1:52 pm

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In post 1536, TheReverend wrote:
In post 1529, FA_Q2 wrote:UNVOTE:


Aw I was gonna self hammer to teach you fuckers not to let outed scum get to L-1.

I'm sort of sad because you entertained me.
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Post Post #1547 (ISO) » Fri May 08, 2015 1:56 pm

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VC 2.05
(5)The Reverend:
Bellaphant, BlueBloodedToffee, ConManMick, lane, Plotinus
(1)Dave:
Farside
(1)Plotinus:
Wrong Song
(1)BlueBloodedToffee:
The Reverend

Not Voting: Wanderer, Davesaz, Senator, RationalMadMan, FA_Q2

With 13 alive it takes 7 to lynch.

Deadline is in (expired on 2015-05-16 12:00:00)
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Post Post #1548 (ISO) » Fri May 08, 2015 2:00 pm

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I forgot I was still voting.

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Post Post #1549 (ISO) » Fri May 08, 2015 2:00 pm

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I'm read up. I'll join the wagon when everyone is ready.

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