Twin Trap (Game Over) [TM2015]

[Metal Sonic]

btw the only player i know in this playerlist is ETL,

so do forgive me if i show her a bit more favouritism


all of you are cool people though. even you quil.

[Quilford]

thanks dear, means a lot

[Patrick]

so do forgive me if i show her a bit more favouritism

I don't plan of forgiving this, fyi.

[Metal Sonic]

It's bad but I feel almost no motivation to engage Metal Sonic or try to analyse his posts.

It seems like they just agreed he'd replace in to bring more energy and motivation than bbmolla could to that slot. If it's town I'm guessing Sonic just pushed for it so he could indulge his burning Quilford suspicion. If scum at least it lets that slot wriggle.

Pedit like a hundred times: MS, it's obvious that you came in with the clear intention of voting Quilford and calling him scum. Just cherrypicking a few posts that can be made to look bad doesn't do anything.

mmm yeah. a secondary motivation was to remove molla's mislynch from the table. i know how easily he can be a target when he does that confused thing. also, mina + quil + (perhaps you? idr.) taking potshots at him would be actually helping scum.



but really. i think you're townreading quil because of d1 play, which helps him a lot. you can say that i'm confbiasing, but aren't you doing so yourself by stubbornly believing that he's town as well?

what do your teammates think?

[Metal Sonic]

so do forgive me if i show her a bit more favouritism

I don't plan of forgiving this, fyi.

:[ that's unfortunate.

oh well.


i don't know any of the members of your team either, but i am willing to work with you because there is a decent chance that you're town



i have to leave real soon.

[Metal Sonic]

ccool, all the 4 of you have checked in already. like i've interacted with everyone within 1 h of my replace in.

that is good. i'll talk to you all in 9 hours because ~sleep~

[Metal Sonic]

You realize that if you're town, then it's a LYLO between Molla, Quilford, and me/Patrick, both of whom suspect Molla more than Quilford, right?

i've solved this problem.




mina, repeating this: let me know your team's input. they're very valuable.



logging out now, bye guys.

[Patrick]

My team thinks he's town. I'm not town-reading Quilford for his day 1 play, as a quick look at my posts today will tell you. And maybe I am conf-biasing a bit, but I actually gave his play quite alot of scrutiny because two other players today voted him and Mina expressed her doubts as well, not to mention the teams of the people involved. I looked at his play yesterday, his interactions with scum to try and see if there might be a connection. I don't feel like there is. I asked for feedback but got little, only really Mina saying she kinda agrees but that Regfan kinda disagrees.

I also asked Mina for detail on why she was paranoid, and have asked ETL several times to engage on her Quilford points, which as it stands don't make sense. She just ignored me, despite saying she was open to explaining them to anyone not named Quilford. Although I've seen her as possibly just pain in the arse stubborn town for much of the game, I feel like she's just so evasive and so unhelpful that it looks deliberate at this point. If Quilford is scum and wins I'll be gutted and take it on the chin as being my fault, but I'll also be pissed at ETL and bbmolla for being so fucking useless today and not trying to convince me.

I agree about asking for Mina's team input. But really I'd just like to see anything from her thats more than just popping in.

[Quilford]

mina mina, how you thrill me, ah-hah, mina mina
mina mina, nearly kill me, ah-hah, mina mina

[Quilford]

I HEARD ABOUT YOU BEFOOOORRREE
I WANTED TO KNOW SOME MOOOREE

ok but seriously this day phase is just dead in the water until you come and post

[Quilford]

also I dont think Patrick is up for an Abba medley

[Metal Sonic]

My team thinks he's town. I'm not town-reading Quilford for his day 1 play, as a quick look at my posts today will tell you. And maybe I am conf-biasing a bit, but I actually gave his play quite alot of scrutiny because two other players today voted him and Mina expressed her doubts as well, not to mention the teams of the people involved. I looked at his play yesterday, his interactions with scum to try and see if there might be a connection. I don't feel like there is. I asked for feedback but got little, only really Mina saying she kinda agrees but that Regfan kinda disagrees.

I also asked Mina for detail on why she was paranoid, and have asked ETL several times to engage on her Quilford points, which as it stands don't make sense. She just ignored me, despite saying she was open to explaining them to anyone not named Quilford. Although I've seen her as possibly just pain in the arse stubborn town for much of the game, I feel like she's just so evasive and so unhelpful that it looks deliberate at this point. If Quilford is scum and wins I'll be gutted and take it on the chin as being my fault, but I'll also be pissed at ETL and bbmolla for being so fucking useless today and not trying to convince me.

I agree about asking for Mina's team input. But really I'd just like to see anything from her thats more than just popping in.

@ Patrick

I'm responsible for my team. I'll make it up on behalf on molla. Phoneposting now. Gonna go to bed.


I understand what you mean about ETL. I'll inspect closely later, cause I think her "lynch me" stuff doesn't sit too well with me; but quilford dying today and ETL dying tomorrow is my current path that I'm looking at

[EspeciallyTheLies]

ms - the biggest thing is that you still scared me. it was imperative to remove you. i was unwilling to work with you. i didn't want to interact with you. you still caught me and that was terrifying.

[EspeciallyTheLies]

i have no doubt lynching quil will end the game. however, the point i am trying to make in advocating my lynch today is strictly strategic - you need to understand this.

removing me from the game pre-lylo means in lylo, considering one of you or mina die tonight, that leaves only quil/patrick to choose from. that is a MUCH better choice than trying to decide between me/patrick,

specifically because of

inherent paranoia about my play.

there is no better selection. does that make sense?

[EspeciallyTheLies]

i made the same choice as catbug in sabo 2.

[EspeciallyTheLies]

it's about giving town it's best chance in LYLO and that does not include me.

[Quilford]

now ladies and gentleman, if you look very closely and stand perfectly still...

ah... there it is...

scum buddying in the wild.

look at how the ETL gently flatters the metallic sonic's ego with her reminders of past encounters... its incredibly rare to see such flamboyant buddying in the wild

[Quilford]

truly a once in a lifetime experience

[EspeciallyTheLies]

*sigh*



I've played with him several times.

Not to mention... buddying is not something I do as scum. Ever.

[EspeciallyTheLies]

You will do whatever it takes to make every single post look scummy when it isn't. It's really irritating.

[EspeciallyTheLies]

Why don't you do something productive instead of poking at me with bullshit every chance you get.

[Patrick]

removing me from the game pre-lylo means in lylo, considering one of you or mina die tonight, that leaves only quil/patrick to choose from. that is a MUCH better choice than trying to decide between me/patrick, specifically because of inherent paranoia about my play.

I don't even understand these scenarios though. In the second one, it seems like Quilford has to be town because the decision is between me and you.

[EspeciallyTheLies]

Furthermore, if I was going to use buddying as a tactic, why didn't I bother doing that with BB, who's far more susceptible to it?

[Quilford]

ooh and then the appeal to self-meta undercut by the failure to take into consideration the meta of the one she thinks is scum. truly... extraordinary

[EspeciallyTheLies]

removing me from the game pre-lylo means in lylo, considering one of you or mina die tonight, that leaves only quil/patrick to choose from. that is a MUCH better choice than trying to decide between me/patrick, specifically because of inherent paranoia about my play.

I don't even understand these scenarios though. In the second one, it seems like Quilford has to be town because the decision is between me and you.

The second is assuming he flips town, yes. BB/MS slot is not getting lynched today.