Battlestar Galactica Mafia - Game over!

Nero Cain · Post Post #1400 (ISO) » Sat May 09, 2015 3:49 pm

how suprising that I have a scumread on someone then they develop a scumread on me.

Mantisdreamz · Post Post #1401 (ISO) » Sat May 09, 2015 3:52 pm

why do you have the scum read on Boo?

Nero Cain · Post Post #1402 (ISO) » Sat May 09, 2015 3:56 pm

?????

Nero Cain · Post Post #1403 (ISO) » Sat May 09, 2015 3:58 pm

oh, you were asking WS and not me.

Toogeloo · Post Post #1404 (ISO) » Sat May 09, 2015 3:58 pm

It's ooba.

The thing I was holding back until more posts come is that ooba is a Cylon.
I am Baltar. Peacebringer is my Head Six. The screen came back as Cylon on ooba.

This is me pretty much signing my death sentence, so there are other things I need to explain. My opening Day 1 was entirely based on show flavor due to my Neighborhood with Peacebringer and thinking there could be good Cylons. Peacebringer claims to be an incorporeal human aligned player, but has two abilities besides neighboring me.

The first is that he can, for one night/day, neighbor Helena Cain. I don't know for what purpose this serves him, but it's something he can do. Peace originally stated in the neighborhood he wanted to do so to set up proxy masonship between me and the Helena Cain player. This ability is apparently called Gina (named after the Six model that was captured by the Pegasus crew and later liberated by Gaius). In the show, Gina kills Helena Cain and blew up the Cloud 9 alerting the Cylons to the Human location.

The second ability allows Peacebringer to enter the game for one day. During this day, Peacebringer can be lynched as normal, but when the day ends, apparently Peacebringer goes back to being incorporeal. This ability is called Shelley (named after the Six model that tries to implicate Gaius in his role of the destruction of Caprica).

When I got the private Neighborhood, I initially expressed that I'd probably be better off not even talking with Peacebringer at all, but then, after the opening flavor, I realized that if Peace could speak with a scum team, then they'd know who I was anyways. I figured it was possible that since Peacebringer was Six, it was probably likely other Cylons could be town and I was over reading my ideas of the way the game was broken down, which is why I was trying to figure out how the screen could possibly screw us over. After I noticed the Sample PMs wincon, compared it to my own, and read the information about Cylons and Humans in show not being indicative of alignment in game, I realized I was going the wrong direction.

I want you guys to do what you think is necessary with the Peacebringer information. If he is scum, then he could potentially join the game and turn a LyLo into a game over. If he's town, he could potentially buy the town another day. Whatever paranoia grips you with that information...

Ooba is a Cylon. He will be the lynch today.

I want Andrius screened because of how he kept stating BRO was scum, but avoided trying to push BRO's lynch further and kept trying to undermine it with a sangres lynch.

Screen: Andrius

I will vote for ooba once the screen is locked, though I'll be honest, if I live through the night, I'll be surprised.

sangres · Post Post #1405 (ISO) » Sat May 09, 2015 4:02 pm

In post 1185, AngryPidgeon wrote:I'm not planning on reading all of D1, because fuck that. I think Valilia and Nikanor are suspicious people maybe. Mantis wants to lynch Sangres; I was unsure about them but the BRO flip is actually making me doubt that read.

In post 1186, AngryPidgeon wrote:I'd also vote Brian Skies probably.

Can you explain these reads?

sangres · Post Post #1406 (ISO) » Sat May 09, 2015 4:09 pm

In post 1201, Mantisdreamz wrote:
In post 1197, sangres wrote:What was wrong with either of those reads?

even though ooba hadn't posted a whole ton, i thought he seemed townish.
this post, i liked: http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 8#p6806188

as well, as the game moved on, there seemed to be no resistance at all to wanting to screen him, which made me think he likely wasn't scum

but also, sangres - i was just looking, and he even had similar scum reads to yours: (toog & bro)
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 7#p6805547
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 5#p6815495

and your reasoning for in the reads list was "ooba does shit as scum" :\
that's kind of a crappy reason

We went over some of the detail on day 1. And I said the thing that actually pinged for me was that when I've played with town-ooba, there's a fair amount of "thinking what I'm thinking when I'm thinking it". When I ran into ooba's posts as I read through the game, that wasn't happening. When I know that happens with another player, then when it doesn't happen, it raises concerns.

Brian Skies · Post Post #1407 (ISO) » Sat May 09, 2015 4:11 pm

Vote: Ooba

Damn it. I was right the first time.

RIP · Post Post #1408 (ISO) » Sat May 09, 2015 4:12 pm

@valilia
I will answer your bro was clearing nikanor question.
Also the fact bro called Tammy a likely town. Maybe he didn't say confirm cuz lol at that.

I have posted this btw but I guess u missed my quotes or that's the quotes that got messed up when I teied to spoil them.

Brb
Finish reading 55

Pedit
My god bro... Why you do that toogleloo. Ffs
We would prob got it right. There's 2 weeks left and you coul have gotten info from the way people acted about it...
Disappointed. You don't know how bad this is

Brian Skies · Post Post #1409 (ISO) » Sat May 09, 2015 4:12 pm

They also have to kill me first!

RIP · Post Post #1410 (ISO) » Sat May 09, 2015 4:13 pm

VOTE: ooba
Let's not hammer tho. We got more work to do

sangres · Post Post #1411 (ISO) » Sat May 09, 2015 4:13 pm

ok, so. p-edit is looking more interesting than umpty pages ago!

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #1412 (ISO) » Sat May 09, 2015 4:15 pm

Brian skies.

also if I'm posting in the next 3 hours it's going to be drunk posts. And phone posts
Sooooo ymmv.

Brian Skies · Post Post #1413 (ISO) » Sat May 09, 2015 4:20 pm

Lynch Count

ValiliaRei 6) - Brian Skies, ooba, Lady Lambdadelta, AngryPidgeon, Mantisdreamz, RIP
Andrius (2) - Porochaz, NotAnAxehole
sangres (1) - THE WRONG LYNCH
Ooba (2) - sangres, ValiliaRei,

Not voting - Bookitty, Andrius, Nero Cain, Toogeloo, SnowStorm, Nikanor, curiouskarmadog

SCREEN COUNT

AngryPidgeon (6) - Brian Skies, Nero Cain, RIP, NotAnAxehole, AngryPidgeon, Porochaz,
Lady Lambdadelta (2) - Nikanor, Lady Lambdadelta
ValiliaRei (1) - Mantisdreamz
THE WRONG LYNCH (1) - sangres
sangres (3) - THE WRONG LYNCH, Bookitty, ooba,
Andrius (1) - Toogeloo,

Not voting - Andrius, ValiliaRei, SnowStorm, curiouskarmadog

Brian Skies · Post Post #1414 (ISO) » Sat May 09, 2015 4:20 pm

@Toog: You do realize I specifically claimed so you wouldn't have to, right?

Brian Skies · Post Post #1415 (ISO) » Sat May 09, 2015 4:23 pm

Fixed Votecount?

Spoiler:

Toogeloo · Post Post #1416 (ISO) » Sat May 09, 2015 4:25 pm

In post 1408, RIP wrote:Pedit
My god bro... Why you do that toogleloo. Ffs
We would prob got it right. There's 2 weeks left and you coul have gotten info from the way people acted about it...
Disappointed. You don't know how bad this is

I weighed it. With BRO's lynch yesterday, and a guaranteed Cylon result, I figured it was worth my sacrifice. Plus, the earlier I claimed, the better really. Hopefully there is a doctor or something out there to keep me on my feet. The Screens can't be roleblocked, I get the information immediately upon entering night. Assuming I can trust Peacebringer, even if I die, I still can convey the result to PB before night resolves, and he can send that to Helena or come into the thread and present it himself, so we still have at least one more screen or more depending on how long I stay alive.

Brian Skies · Post Post #1417 (ISO) » Sat May 09, 2015 4:27 pm

My soul is weeping right now.

Toogeloo · Post Post #1418 (ISO) » Sat May 09, 2015 4:28 pm

In post 1414, Brian Skies wrote:@Toog: You do realize I specifically claimed so you wouldn't have to, right?

You weren't doing a very good job about it though. I knew ooba was guilty and wouldn't have claimed if you had something more condemning, but you gave up on it too easily.

Brian Skies · Post Post #1419 (ISO) » Sat May 09, 2015 4:30 pm

I had two weeks. It's also not like we wouldn't have gotten him tomorrow.

Brian Skies · Post Post #1420 (ISO) » Sat May 09, 2015 4:30 pm

Valillia didn't even claim flavor and she was pushing a valid point against him.

Brian Skies · Post Post #1421 (ISO) » Sat May 09, 2015 4:31 pm

Whatever. I'm over it. Figure out who you want to screen.

Toogeloo · Post Post #1422 (ISO) » Sat May 09, 2015 4:32 pm

I told you, I want Andrius screened for making strong BROscum cases yesterday, but not pursuing it when we needed the strength behind the wagon and instead trying to push a sangres lynch.

I want Andy to be town, but I don't trust the motivation behind his activity yesterday.

RIP · Post Post #1423 (ISO) » Sat May 09, 2015 4:34 pm

In post 172, BROseidon wrote:Also Bookitty is probs the most town person right now. Tammy's sort of town but her towniness should be pretty obvious once she posts more if she's town.

[screen]Axe[/screen] I'm okay screening anything that isn't AP or Tammy pretty much all game.

In post 353, BROseidon wrote:
In post 204, Nikanor wrote:So, I'm going to come clean. I'm Ellen Tigh, a cylon in the show. I didn't claim earlier because I thought that I might have been the sleeper, and if I was the only one who claimed a character who was a cylon in the show then I'd be lynched instantly with egg all over my face.
I think that BROseidon is town, the discussion about him being scum is ridiculous because all he's claiming is that his character is a cylon in the show. Nowhere in my own role PM does it mention me being a cylon, but I know I am a cylon because I watched the show. I assume BRO's PM is similar so I trust him.

Right now I think that BROseidon and Brian Skies are town for sure. I have a slight town read on Andrius, but that could change. I have scum reads on Bookitty (her focus on Nero Cain was suspicious, she looked to be turning things around on him by talking about him looking for reasons to call people rolefishers) and curiouskarmadog (accusing Axehole of trying to get out of a screen is ridiculous when that's clearly not what's happening).

Unvote. Vote: curiouskarmadog.

Screen: Bookitty.

@Nero Cain: Is your voting penalty public or no?

Town.

In post 763, BROseidon wrote:Like, if I had to rank response from worst to best off the top of my head, it would be like:

Andy
Valila
Ooba
Nacho
Toog
Brian

In post 909, BROseidon wrote:I'd rather not screen Ooba because I'd rather lynch him.

In post 919, BROseidon wrote:VOTE: Sangres

I'll screen-vote Ooba if people are gung-ho about it, but I'd rather screen Axe at this point b/c I feel less confident about that read than my Ooba read.

I stand corrected.
I did an ISO and what I got from it was that nika was likely town by the way he focused on her.
I could look back to see what I said.
Doesn't change my read. She's likely town.

About Tammy he called her probably town and then talked about her like she's a town so to me that was a clearing thing for her.

Also Brian looks clear from it.
And he posted a funny list I quoted.
I'm sure there's more than one scum on it.
He also tried not to screen ooba. Read my quotes, there's a couple times he refuses and finds a excuse.
He also wanted to screen Andrius instead and was pushing him.
He also clears boo kitty hard.

He finally vote to screen ooba when he was a runaway.( not sure about this cuz I couldn't see how many votes ooba had, but I know it was late.

That's it

Mantisdreamz · Post Post #1424 (ISO) » Sat May 09, 2015 4:39 pm

ooba

you seemed town