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Post Post #125 (ISO) » Tue May 12, 2015 10:12 pm

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In post 110, Metal Sonic wrote:Har the fck? Duduo wasn't in team mafia

VOTE: doduo

how does "doduo wasn't in my game" make him scum? even discounting the fact it was possible (given you knew Marquis was in another game) he was following along with the other team mafia games - why, specifically, do you think him referencing the game you were in is more likely to come from scum than town?

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I'm seeing the case on MS but it's not enough to push for a lynch there yet. I'm getting a couple of twinges about others but nothing worth mentioning yet as I don't know them well enough to know whether it's significant.

elaborate? it's fine if you don't know whether it's significant or not yet
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Post Post #126 (ISO) » Tue May 12, 2015 10:13 pm

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no, i get where doduo is coming from

its not the team mafia
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Post Post #127 (ISO) » Tue May 12, 2015 10:16 pm

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*why* is Bee obvtown and can you walk me through the Doduo read?

I'm not just asking you these questions for no reason.
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Post Post #128 (ISO) » Tue May 12, 2015 10:18 pm

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In post 50, Honey bee wrote:Ehh maybe. He's giving me a goofy impression so it's hard for me to state it as forced or just not trying. I don't know him, so i guess I'm taking that impressoin with a grain of salt. I don't think he would have mistaken the recruitment thing as something else as scum though.


^this is genuine scumhunting and/or thought

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Post Post #129 (ISO) » Tue May 12, 2015 10:19 pm

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In post 29, Doduo wrote:i'm town therefore ms is town therefore VOTE: nacho later bye

In post 87, Doduo wrote:VOTE: MS NOPE NOPE NOPE
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Post Post #130 (ISO) » Tue May 12, 2015 10:20 pm

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why are you playing so well in here?
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Post Post #131 (ISO) » Tue May 12, 2015 10:23 pm

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town:
Honey bee
SXTLHGaiden
pieguyn
Nachomamma8

Null:
ActionDan
Lia

Scum:
Alchemist21
Doduo (replaces notscience; marquis)
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Post Post #132 (ISO) » Tue May 12, 2015 10:23 pm

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alchey would have been more engaged/excited about this game at this point in time

i dont see that right now
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Post Post #133 (ISO) » Tue May 12, 2015 10:33 pm

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In post 130, Metal Sonic wrote:pie

why are you playing so well in here?

?

In post 132, Metal Sonic wrote:alchey would have been more engaged/excited about this game at this point in time

i dont see that right now

I've had 1 game with him as scum and he was pretty fucking engaged there. and iirc he prefers scum over town (? correct me if I'm wrong)?

I would like him to do more, but I'm not sure the lack of engagement here means anything and I haven't really had a problem with anything he's posted so far. is this a meta read, or... ?
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Post Post #134 (ISO) » Tue May 12, 2015 10:35 pm

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the rest is kind of redeeming, I suppose. I could potentially see myself agreeing on Bee, but I want him to do more first. Doduo's thought process isn't inconsistent; given I don't really intend to read people based on recruiting-related things, I think it makes sense for someone to assume at first you weren't the recruiter and then push you anyway based on play.

there's still a bunch of people who I'd like to see more from -.-
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Post Post #135 (ISO) » Tue May 12, 2015 10:38 pm

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In post 133, pieguyn wrote:I've had 1 game with him as scum and he was pretty fucking engaged there. and iirc he prefers scum over town (? correct me if I'm wrong)?


yea i know he likes scum more than town

but his town game usualy has him figuring out stuff early.

i'll wait and see
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Post Post #136 (ISO) » Tue May 12, 2015 10:39 pm

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In post 134, pieguyn wrote:Doduo's thought process isn't inconsistent; given I don't really intend to read people based on recruiting-related things, I think it makes sense for someone to assume at first you weren't the recruiter and then push you anyway based on play.


doduo is posting garbage lol

and this is coming from me
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Post Post #137 (ISO) » Tue May 12, 2015 10:55 pm

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In post 135, Metal Sonic wrote:but his town game usualy has him figuring out stuff early.

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=52&t=59178

this is the game I played with Alch as scum. it looked like he was capable of figuring shit out early here. I'm waiting to see more from him as well, but either way, I don't particularly think this is a tell by itself.

In post 136, Metal Sonic wrote:doduo is posting garbage lol

and this is coming from me

is this based around the read on you, or something else?
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Post Post #138 (ISO) » Tue May 12, 2015 10:55 pm

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In post 137, pieguyn wrote:is this based around the read on you, or something else?


both actually.

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Post Post #139 (ISO) » Tue May 12, 2015 10:58 pm

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In post 137, pieguyn wrote:viewtopic.php?f=52&t=59178

this is the game I played with Alch as scum. it looked like he was capable of figuring shit out early here. I'm waiting to see more from him as well, but either way, I don't particularly think this is a tell by itself.



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Post Post #140 (ISO) » Wed May 13, 2015 12:01 am

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I'm looking through it again and I still have no idea what you're seeing here. I think his read on you is a really shit reason for scum reading him (I'm aware you have a lot of experience with each other, but I'm pretty sure I've read you right in every game we've had (?) - so I don't have a problem with him scum reading you for the same reason), and I don't mind the rest of his posts, either.

needless to say this doesn't make him town, but if I scum read him it will likely be for other reasons
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Post Post #141 (ISO) » Wed May 13, 2015 12:44 am

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In post 102, Alchemist21 wrote:
In post 66, Metal Sonic wrote:VOTE: lia

Sing something


Is there a reason you switched to Lia?
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Post Post #142 (ISO) » Wed May 13, 2015 12:56 am

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In post 101, Nachomamma8 wrote:mmm, i guess i don't need you to explain that

i'm decently unhappy with his shift from policy lynching me to "nacho will slay the scumteam", although rationale for that is explained by me having a timer thanks to my flavor claim
i don't really like his townread on pieguy
his townread on honey bee is strange: i had a thought that it could be ms townreading the scumpartner who recruited him,
but honey bee does look ok individually and so it's still mainly a thought in the back of my mind


@Nacho, the bolded part seems pretty specific. What makes you think it could come specifically from a player being recruited? Why was it more likely to be scum-scum?

I've seen scum have flimsy and awkward early townreads on Town before (granted this was typically from a scum player who didn't know the Town player), and I could see this kind of early read coming from Town as well.
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Post Post #143 (ISO) » Wed May 13, 2015 1:01 am

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In post 141, Alchemist21 wrote:
In post 102, Alchemist21 wrote:
In post 66, Metal Sonic wrote:VOTE: lia

Sing something


Is there a reason you switched to Lia?

No there wasn't
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Post Post #144 (ISO) » Wed May 13, 2015 2:08 am

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Official Vote Count


Metal Sonic
(3): ActionDan, pieguyn, Doduo
Doduo
(2): Nachomamma8, Metal Sonic
Lia
(1): Alchemist21
pieguyn
(1): Honey bee

Not Voting
(2): Lia, SXTLHGaiden

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.

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Post Post #145 (ISO) » Wed May 13, 2015 2:31 am

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In post 136, Metal Sonic wrote:
In post 134, pieguyn wrote:Doduo's thought process isn't inconsistent; given I don't really intend to read people based on recruiting-related things, I think it makes sense for someone to assume at first you weren't the recruiter and then push you anyway based on play.


doduo is posting garbage lol

and this is coming from me


I smell butthurt

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Post Post #146 (ISO) » Wed May 13, 2015 2:37 am

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your nose is in the wrong place :)
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Post Post #147 (ISO) » Wed May 13, 2015 2:43 am

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In post 97, Doduo wrote:in team mafia he did the same whole "post a lot in sequence bc hahaha this spam and trolling is typical ms and i dont want to lose this game by mislynching him bc thats way too easy to do" (it's no)

In post 99, Doduo wrote:he's trying to be "what a dumb spammer metal sonic is, posting so much and not knowing anything"
and ms is not dumb

In post 103, Doduo wrote:
In post 93, Nachomamma8 wrote:
In post 77, pieguyn wrote:what did you think was safe about it?

I thought it was safe because I figured me, you, Sonic were going to be on most people's recruit shortlists, and I assumed his reasoning would be something along the lines of play ability, but I'm now informed that assumption wasn't correct.


MS?

really?


You saw him in Team Mafia go pretty damn far in a Nightless game as scum. Why are you surprised by Nacho saying people would recruit Sonic?
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Post Post #148 (ISO) » Wed May 13, 2015 2:50 am

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In post 103, Doduo wrote:MS?

really?

Yes?

In post 104, Doduo wrote:
In post 60, Nachomamma8 wrote:gaiden *could* be scum.
i doubt that he is.


hi mastin

What's your position on Gaiden? Do you think that he could fake that towntell? Do you think he did?

In post 130, Metal Sonic wrote:pie

why are you playing so well in here?

This seems like an odd question when you're his biggest scumread.

In post 142, Alchemist21 wrote:@Nacho, the bolded part seems pretty specific. What makes you think it could come specifically from a player being recruited? Why was it more likely to be scum-scum?

Honey Bee seems like a pretty easy target for MS to target as scum, so it seems more likely to me at this point that MS is attempting to clear a partner as opposed to shutting down a very viable mislynch without a real alternative.
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Post Post #149 (ISO) » Wed May 13, 2015 2:51 am

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