In post 5646, Espeonage wrote:In post 5642, Cheetory6 wrote:I'm not trying to argue that there isn't 1-2 active scum influencing the gamestate, but you can be sure that between FF and 4nx or someone else nondescript like Shadow there's a decent chance of at least one scum trying to fly completely under the radar by not being on anything.
I would rather catch scum that is vocal overscum that isn't when the pools of players are pretty equal.
In post 5645, Cheetory6 wrote:With votes like this I can't imagine why.hito wrote:(2) Not Voting: 4nxi3ty,Formerfish(Oversoul)
In post 5641, Cheetory6 wrote:And if Aronis is town then 4nx can wave his hands around saying "wow look at all of these townwagons that I haven't voted for ever I'm so town wow".
I mean for fuck's sake 3-4 players in this game are entirely basing how they're analyzing this game on VCA.
If I were scum, one of the main things I would be playing around in a game with VCAcentric players would be VCA. Sitting off wagons or stacking wagons would be the first thing I would be aiming to do to fuck with town's ability to read me.
Like, whatever, don't believe me, I'm not trying to prove I'm town right now.
I'm just saying that VCA only works so long as people aren't trying to play around it and if either you or mastin is town then there's no reason for scum in a tryhard scenario like team mafia not to try and fuck with that kind of stuff.
In post 5651, Formerfish wrote:In post 5645, Cheetory6 wrote:With votes like this I can't imagine why.hito wrote:(2) Not Voting: 4nxi3ty,Formerfish(Oversoul)
SO because I wasn't around for much of the day, and didn't have a vote down on someone when a mislynch occurred I'm flying under the radar?
In post 5284, singersigner wrote:In post 5273, Formerfish wrote:In post 5252, singersigner wrote:In post 5240, Formerfish wrote:I survived another Mothers Day in the restaurant industry. I will be here tonight.
I'm really looking forward to you being here. I have a pending question: who would you vote right now, gun to your head?
UT or you.
Why me?
Also, do you or your team have any original thoughts on the game? Most of the catch-up spam I'm seeing is just regurgitating the popular opinions of others or defending yourself.
What exactly is it that I'm doing over and over again that isn't working and why is that scummy?Titus wrote:The fact you're willing to keep doing the same thing, despite it not working doesn't sit well with me.
In post 5644, singersigner wrote:My team has townreads on everyone on Bulb's wagon, yes. That was part of the reason why they were so ok with a Bulb lynch. That and his VCA, but I digress.
In post 5656, Cheetory6 wrote:What exactly is it that I'm doing over and over again that isn't working and why is that scummy?Titus wrote:The fact you're willing to keep doing the same thing, despite it not working doesn't sit well with me.
If you're trying to imply that me continuing to use my preferred MO [which usually works decently well] is scummy? I shade at you for the fact that you're trying to appease people over and over again and it's clearly not working either? Should I call you scum for that? Like, I'm literally voting how I feel I should be voting right now. You can fucking shade at me all you want, but this is how I play the game. I vote for who I want to lynch at the time provided that there isn't someone who I really want to sheep, it isn't RVS/earlyD1 and there isn't a deadline crunch. I honestly think it's fucking ridiculous that anyone would play any other way, but what do I know.
In post 5064, Titus wrote:@Singer, It's ok for UT not to post because UT is hanging out with you, but it's not ok for FF not to contribute because he's got a sick fiance and is a replacement? While I'm sure he could relay Marquis's reads, they are not his reads. I like the fact FF is open and honest and saying he's confused.
You've also committed a logical falllacy here. You've supposed that two issues that can ideally be handled separately by two players means one player can handle both.
You've supposed UT has got real life issues, yet he can post (and it's somehow temporarily excusable although I doubt he's been at the commune all game). You're a replacement, yet you can post. Therefore, having both shouldn't stop FF. The logical fallacy can be displayed in math terms.
An Average person can hold 5 bricks. (Personal reasons not to post)
An Average person can hold 5 stones. (Being a replacement)
Therefore, a person can hold both 5 bricks and 5 stones. (Being a replacement and dealing with personal issues)
Yet it can be true that the maximum any one person can hold is 7 objects. (Either being a replacement or dealing with personal issues).
FF, not posting for ever will not be tolerated, but it seems like you're coming up with smokescreen reasons for UT.
UT is not explaining his gamma read. Your big reason for not liking DV, he didn't explain his reads. DV's explained more in his current post than UT has explained all game.
UT is not posting content. Your big reason for not liking FF is... not posting content. UT is actually just spamming.
I do love the touch of "class" at the end where you attempt to paint my opinion as wrong or scummy just because you disagree with it and it doesn't fit into your narrative.
All the reasons you push for voting other people also apply to UT. Yet, you won't vote him.
In post 5664, Cheetory6 wrote:Who is he pushing hard for who's ended up being town?FF wrote:Something that I noticed about Dan is that he is pushing hard for people to vote for people who end up being town
@Titus. Kgreatthankyoutonightisnotagoodnight.
In post 5665, singersigner wrote:Cheetory. She's scum. It's not worth it. Don't go to the dark side. Come see the light...again...
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@FF...it should be pretty obvious by now that I was excusing his play because we suspected he was Alquin, so...you can try another explanation seeing as you don't have the same excuse. And it's not just your absense. It's the excuses you've made instead of just taking the time to do something, and then the lack of effort in doing anything. I've already said Titus's defense of you is terrible so using her words to defend you is just ironic at this point.
In post 5649, Titus wrote:In post 5642, Cheetory6 wrote:I'm not trying to argue that there isn't 1-2 active scum influencing the gamestate, but you can be sure that between FF and 4nx or someone else nondescript like Shadow there's a decent chance of at least one scum trying to fly completely under the radar by not being on anything.
Let's suppose we're both right. 2 v 2 even split.
What do you think is going to happen when we apply pressure to lurkers? Nothing. The same influential people will be pushing the same shit wagons and get hopped on.If we force people to be accountable for the votes they cast, lurker scum will have to come out of hiding and play to protect their buddies.
What you're pushing for, voting a lurker without being a counterwagon to the ones being pushed by the same people, is NOT likely to do anything to alter the gamestate. Doing the same damn thing over and over again is NOT likely to result in a different result.
Spoiler: Wagons to claim
@FF, Then fucking do something.