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Post Post #4350 (ISO) » Wed May 13, 2015 6:12 pm

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Vote Count 4.2


With 7 alive, it takes 4 to lynch.

shos (2): Iecerint, Cephrir

Not Voting (5): GreyICE, shos, T-Bone, Wisdom, xRECKONERx

Deadline for Day 4 is Wednesday, May 27th, at 05:00pm EDT (site time).
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(expired on 2015-05-27 16:00:00)

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Post Post #4351 (ISO) » Wed May 13, 2015 6:21 pm

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In post 4339, Wisdom wrote:btw because i suck at setups; what does the framer flip tell us about the roleblocker? Is the framer enough against cop+tracker?

I think the framer has no effect on tracks. That's what the wiki suggests, at least.
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Post Post #4352 (ISO) » Wed May 13, 2015 6:22 pm

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In post 4339, Wisdom wrote:btw because i suck at setups; what does the framer flip tell us about the roleblocker? Is the framer enough against cop+tracker?

FWIW ActionDan's perspective N3 was that the framer increased the chance that GreyICE was town.
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Post Post #4353 (ISO) » Wed May 13, 2015 9:09 pm

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So im here for a sec. And im being wagoned.

Ceph, let me get this straight
You see my claim, and you supposedly have a direct CC to it, but you forget about it for an entire day, despite all the discussion we had about my claim, yes? And then when Tier dies you suddenly realize it?

That seems superfishy. Looks like desparate attempt to get a mislynch for lylo. Your buddy is widely townread or something?

Tonight I was targetted, I got the PM from the mod and it was clear. That means I wasnt earlier.

This can mean one of three(?) things:
1. Tbone is scum and blocked me on N2
2. Scum redirected me
3. Ceph is scum and his action is not an (A) action or something alike

Im yhinking a Tbone lynch would fit. It fits with the balancing idea too, and with MS' reads.

To help clarify: ceph, elaborate extensivly on your action please



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Post Post #4354 (ISO) » Thu May 14, 2015 12:12 am

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In post 4353, shos wrote:2. Scum redirected me

what
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Post Post #4355 (ISO) » Thu May 14, 2015 12:13 am

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In post 4353, shos wrote:You see my claim, and you supposedly have a direct CC to it, but you forget about it for an entire day, despite all the discussion we had about my claim, yes? And then when Tier dies you suddenly realize it?

You have no point, given we all missed it.
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Post Post #4356 (ISO) » Thu May 14, 2015 2:05 am

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I don't think elaboration is necessary. I remembered when I went to use my night 3 action and wanted to use it on you, then remembered I already had and hey wait what.

Your attempt to continue to lynch T-Bone rather than me is hilarious.
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Post Post #4357 (ISO) » Thu May 14, 2015 2:06 am

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You can't have been blocked by T-Bone because presumably your action is passive.
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Post Post #4358 (ISO) » Thu May 14, 2015 2:08 am

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And why would I be desperate to get a mislynch right now? If I was scum here I'd be in a prime position to go to endgame. If my partner was Wisdom I'd have already won, and no one else is widely townread.
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Post Post #4359 (ISO) » Thu May 14, 2015 2:50 am

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@wis and ceph: as i have said in my claim, this counts as targetting myself for all other stufd apart from my own action. My action can be tracked to myself, watched as me targetting me, blocked, redirected (so that i see if X has been targetted)[btw, the pm phrasing does not include my name, so in theory, this result can be of someone else], voyeured, even roleSTOPPED. I asked the mod about this at gamestart.

@wisdom: theres a difference betweeen not noticing that as a bystander and not noticing something that DIRECTLY contradicts what YOU did. Like, you had to send a "target shos" message to the mod, how can you not notice that.

@ceph- I do, so please do. And re boner - I have been trying to lynch iece for a while now, in case you ignore the thread, as it seems from your "miss".

Why did you preaume the ability is passive when i explocitly claimed otherwise?

And scum nees a mislynch today. If they dont get it, the setup will kill them. Gice can confirm the non-PRs, and the PRs can actually get guilties by blocking scum kill or tracking them. Unless - the PRs
are scum,
partly, in which case they need to fake results and reasoning for them. People have wanted you dead like all gamw, so you're a viable sacrifice. If you were scum, gambitting there, getting two PR kills and aislynch in exchange for you dying makes aense imo, and im not even reaching
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Post Post #4360 (ISO) » Thu May 14, 2015 2:51 am

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Now my phone is dying and MS has posted LOADS lol so ill continue from hime in ~20 minutes frkm comp
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Post Post #4361 (ISO) » Thu May 14, 2015 2:53 am

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Sorry Shos, you lost me at 'MS said' because then I know to disregard the rest of the post.
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Post Post #4362 (ISO) » Thu May 14, 2015 2:57 am

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I mean it's really simple regardless of what you or I or anything think of Ceph forgetting his counterclaim we all KNOW he targeted you Night 2, and you said you didn't receive a self-watch. I didn't roleblock you, and I doubt it would have made a difference to a passive role, as those generally can't be roleblocked.
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Post Post #4363 (ISO) » Thu May 14, 2015 3:00 am

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except it's not a passive role
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Post Post #4364 (ISO) » Thu May 14, 2015 3:06 am

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Im back to believing shos

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Post Post #4365 (ISO) » Thu May 14, 2015 3:17 am

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Then the only other thing is the Ceph knows his action isn't actually an action that can be watched/tracked. They are kinda 1v1 unless we are just wildly misunderstanding how both player's roles work.
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Post Post #4366 (ISO) » Thu May 14, 2015 3:20 am

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nah both are town
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Post Post #4367 (ISO) » Thu May 14, 2015 3:20 am

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you and grey are the remaining scum
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Post Post #4368 (ISO) » Thu May 14, 2015 3:21 am

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Oh excellent going back to that tired read.
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Post Post #4369 (ISO) » Thu May 14, 2015 3:31 am

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In post 4359, shos wrote:@wis and ceph: as i have said in my claim, this counts as targetting myself for all other stufd apart from my own action. My action can be tracked to myself, watched as me targetting me, blocked, redirected (so that i see if X has been targetted)[btw, the pm phrasing does not include my name, so in theory, this result can be of someone else]

This is stupid. I don't believe that this role even exists in the first place.

In post 4359, shos wrote:@wisdom: theres a difference betweeen not noticing that as a bystander and not noticing something that DIRECTLY contradicts what YOU did. Like, you had to send a "target shos" message to the mod, how can you not notice that.

Said the king of not cocking up roleclaims. Oh, wait, no, you totally did.

In post 4359, shos wrote:@ceph- I do, so please do. And re boner - I have been trying to lynch iece for a while now, in case you ignore the thread, as it seems from your "miss".

Literally not what you just said and I don't even know what the "@ceph" here is even saying.

In post 4359, shos wrote:Why did you preaume the ability is passive when i explocitly claimed otherwise?

If it's active, then you have to activate it. Are you telling me you PMed the mod saying "I would like to watch myself tonight"? Get fucking real.

In post 4359, shos wrote:And scum nees a mislynch today. If they dont get it, the setup will kill them. Gice can confirm the non-PRs, and the PRs can actually get guilties by blocking scum kill or tracking them. Unless - the PRs
are scum,
partly, in which case they need to fake results and reasoning for them. People have wanted you dead like all gamw, so you're a viable sacrifice. If you were scum, gambitting there, getting two PR kills and aislynch in exchange for you dying makes aense imo, and im not even reaching

People have wanted me dead at times. They don't anymore. And I have too big an ego as scum to give myself up. Also, Greyice is probably scum, so.

In post 4364, Wisdom wrote:Im back to believing shos

VOTE: grey


Wisdom. Stop it.

And if you believe shos and somehow think I am town too, you should probably be voting T-Bone.
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Post Post #4370 (ISO) » Thu May 14, 2015 3:32 am

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nope, Im going to lynch grey like ns and mastin wanted.
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Post Post #4371 (ISO) » Thu May 14, 2015 3:33 am

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In post 4369, Cephrir wrote:
If it's active, then you have to activate it. Are you telling me you PMed the mod saying "I would like to watch myself tonight"? Get fucking real.

Quoting for emphasis.
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Post Post #4372 (ISO) » Thu May 14, 2015 3:36 am

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In post 4361, T-Bone wrote:Sorry Shos, you lost me at 'MS said' because then I know to disregard the rest of the post.

lol xD
expect more of that soon because
MS said
lots of stuff, soon.
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:lol:

really, despite all the shit I'm being given, I'm enjoying this game like hell xD we're all very civil and this game is really interesting and all.
is there an anti-AtE? xD

In post 4362, T-Bone wrote:I mean it's really simple regardless of what you or I or anything think of Ceph forgetting his counterclaim we all KNOW he targeted you Night 2, and you said you didn't receive a self-watch. I didn't roleblock you, and I doubt it would have made a difference to a passive role, as those generally can't be roleblocked.

yes we know that, but ceph not-wanting to elaborate on the mechanics of his role is intriguing. Me not receiving a PM after N2
has
an explanation somewhere in this game, even if we don't know it. if ceph's mechanics is unique too like mine, who knows what the mod meant that would happen. I don't see why ceph would *refuse* to elaborate on that. And for the love of god, this is NOT a passive role.

In post 4365, T-Bone wrote:Then the only other thing is the Ceph knows his action isn't actually an action that can be watched/tracked. They are kinda 1v1 unless we are just wildly misunderstanding how both player's roles work.
interesting. What would a track result be on you, Ceph? you visited TWO people same night? or don't visit at all?
also this is a scummy post, pushing the agenda that this is a 1v1 between me and ceph is scummy because if both town it lines up mislynches. But also that would mean,
wisdom,
that ceph and T-bone are probably
not
scumpartners.


loads of pedits: in a moment
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Post Post #4373 (ISO) » Thu May 14, 2015 3:38 am

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In post 4372, shos wrote:ceph not-wanting to elaborate on the mechanics of his role is intriguing.

wtf are you talking about? What is there to elaborate on?
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Post Post #4374 (ISO) » Thu May 14, 2015 3:40 am

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In post 4372, shos wrote:ceph and T-bone are probably not scumpartners.

ceph is town, so yeah.

It's grey and Tbone, and we're lynching grey.

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