Signs and Void (Game Over) [TM2015]

[Titus]

@Cheetory, while I find it unlikely, I don't see why all four scum could not be on Bulbs. More than likely though one avoided. Two scum off Bulbs is unlikely to me given the shot case on him.

This argument

completely

ignores the constipated game state.

No, it's what accounts for the gamestate. Bulbs would not have been lynched over Aronis if scum had not pushed Bulba.

[4nxi3ty]

Also, it seems off that you are now the second (or third) person who's deconstructed an argument on a replacement slot due to "lurking," when that only sumpliments it.

well what is the full argument on DV than? What I saw was he's not playing like usual, needs to be more active, replacing out, team would've helped him more...

Well you all just lynched my biggest townread, so there's that.

Why was bulb your biggest townread?
quick skim: something about him being a sleeper, was there more to it?

[TellTaleHeart]

Regfan thinks one of the more universally townread players that people are blanket townreading from the beginning of the game is wrong.

*cough*Oversoul*cough*

[TellTaleHeart]

@Cheetory, while I find it unlikely, I don't see why all four scum could not be on Bulbs. More than likely though one avoided. Two scum off Bulbs is unlikely to me given the shot case on him.

This argument

completely

ignores the constipated game state.

No, it's what accounts for the gamestate. Bulbs would not have been lynched over Aronis if scum had not pushed Bulba.

I

pushed Bulba over Aronis because Aronis is a crappy, easy lynch that's likely a mislynch.

[Titus]

Hallelujah! A flip.

And the world didn't even end.

Bulbazak flipping town strengthens my scum read on the DV slot. I

may

be coming around to a singer scum read.

Glad on the singer read. Your DV read looks like confbias.

[Titus]

@Cheetory, while I find it unlikely, I don't see why all four scum could not be on Bulbs. More than likely though one avoided. Two scum off Bulbs is unlikely to me given the shot case on him.

This argument

completely

ignores the constipated game state.

No, it's what accounts for the gamestate. Bulbs would not have been lynched over Aronis if scum had not pushed Bulba.

I

pushed Bulba over Aronis because Aronis is a crappy, easy lynch that's likely a mislynch.

Really, then explain why it's hard for me to get voted on Aronis if he is an easy mislynch? Your Bulbs case was shot and scum were all too glad to duck up to you.

[TellTaleHeart]

If I just shut the fuck up about Aronis and Bulba, I bet you'd have had a lynch wagon in 12 hours.

[Titus]

Explain.

[TellTaleHeart]

No, you explain. It's your argument.

Which scum sheeped me onto Bulba? Is it: Gamma, UT, Cheetory, CDB? Who?

[Titus]

I meant explain how Adonis would be fast without you getting in the way.

I am not sure who the scum is pushing that. Vezok's vote here does not make sense if he was buddies with Aronis. I know I am best at highlighting where the scum likely are. Even with my most accurate VCAs, I would invariably pick the townie amongst them. Town would get it right though. I am trying to recreate the same here. Problem is that it is a larger group and I have zero scuffles. I should go down and look at all the bad wagons and get names but I am afraid of falling into the very trap everyone else seems to be in. No one seems to have reads that are changing with the gamestate.

[Titus]

*scuffles = scumflips. New phone has autocorrect.

[Titus]

Also, it seems off that you are now the second (or third) person who's deconstructed an argument on a replacement slot due to "lurking," when that only sumpliments it.

well what is the full argument on DV than? What I saw was he's not playing like usual, needs to be more active, replacing out, team would've helped him more...

Well you all just lynched my biggest townread, so there's that.

Why was bulb your biggest townread?
quick skim: something about him being a sleeper, was there more to it?

For spreading me, you sure are agreeing with a lot of what I am saying. Sort me. You will find I am town like most of the thread has.

[TellTaleHeart]

No one seems to have reads that are changing with the gamestate.

Well, mine are.

Most notably, I have growing scumreads on both singer and Oversoul. singer is a hitchhiker on a lot of town wagons and she's tunneling you into the ground when it looks like there's little hope for success there and the push isn't all that great to begin with. Regarding Oversoul, being wrong on a "universal" town read makes sense given the dysfunctional game state and there's also mollie saying her first impression was that Tammy was scum.

[Titus]

Do you think we can swing a Singer lynch today? My team is very adamant, don't go after Singer if she is not likely to be lynched because the game doesn't need drama for drama's sake.

[ChannelDelibird]

Not lynching singer, probably ever. Empire looked town, his replace-in is town, singer's engagement is

way

too high for her to be scum. Not doing it. Nope. No siree. No thank you. Nada.

[vezokpiraka]

I'm not supporting a singer lynch and there are others who don't want to.

[TellTaleHeart]

Not lynching singer, probably ever. Empire looked town, his replace-in is town, singer's engagement is

way

too high for her to be scum. Not doing it. Nope. No siree. No thank you. Nada.

Who are you scum reading?

[hitogoroshi]

VC 126 (Major Day 2, VC 14)

(4)

Titus:

Aronis, 4nxi3ty, singersigner, Espeonage [L-5]
(3)

Shadoweh:

Gammagooey, Oversoul, Untrod Tripod
(3)

Aronis:

Titus, Shadoweh, vezokpiraka
(1)

4nxi3ty:

Cheetory6
(1)

ActionDan:

Formerfish

(4)

Not Voting:

TellTaleHeart, ChannelDelibird, ActionDan, mastin2

(Espeonage, vezokpiraka)

With 16 players alive it's 9 to lynch. Major Day Two will end Tuesday, May 19th, at 2PM CST.

Major Day Two Deadline

(expired on 2015-05-19 13:00:00)

TellTaleHeart is V/LA until May 20th.

[TellTaleHeart]

hito, after today I will be V/LA until next Wednesday.

[ChannelDelibird]

Not lynching singer, probably ever. Empire looked town, his replace-in is town, singer's engagement is

way

too high for her to be scum. Not doing it. Nope. No siree. No thank you. Nada.

Who are you scum reading?

Iso my recent posts for an idea of where my head's at, but I'm working on a fuller picture of how I see the game by looking back at some things before I vote. I could post some of them now but I'd rather have a chance to talk things over with my team before I present a clearer perspective of what I want to do, and that chat with my team-mates hasn't really happened yet, nor has my rereading finished.

Basically, my townreads are much stronger than my scumreads, and there's a group of people whom I'm not explicitly townreading whom I'm trying to sort more effectively.

[TellTaleHeart]

Oh, I see you already got my PM. :S
Anyway, it'll be more of an "LA" than a "V" but I'll try to say what I want to say today.

[Titus]

Not lynching singer, probably ever. Empire looked town, his replace-in is town, singer's engagement is

way

too high for her to be scum. Not doing it. Nope. No siree. No thank you. Nada.

Really, I'm a high volume poster regardless of my alignment. *sigh* Engagement alone, unless you can link it to the gamestate is NOT alignment indicative. Singer had to engage, She was wagoned.

[ChannelDelibird]

Titus, I don't give a shit. You're not going to convince me. You asked if people would support it. I'm telling you I wouldn't support it.

[TellTaleHeart]

Unless that opinion comes with a cop innocent or a reason other than "she posts a lot" or any variant thereof, I'm not going to put any stock in it.

[Titus]

@CDB Can you put your reads up then? I'll place my Singer case I'm working on in spoilers. You can skip it if you want.

If we're going to agree, we need to figure it out fast. We'll pick one person we are all not townreading. That's very likely to hit scum, even if we're all compromising a bit.