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Post Post #225 (ISO) » Fri May 15, 2015 12:02 am

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In post 205, Metal Sonic wrote:no, its just paranoia

*which* posts, specifically, are making you think this? cos I'm pretty fucking sure none of my posts this game have been above par in terms of how much effort I've put in - so you thinking this doesn't make sense. it feels more like you're attempting to come up with fake paranoia on me in order to hopefully get me to town read you (or otherwise look town) as opposed to legitimately believing this.
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Post Post #226 (ISO) » Fri May 15, 2015 12:40 am

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In post 197, pieguyn wrote:viewtopic.php?f=23&t=61111 (Endless Possibilities hydra) - he just fluff posts and has fun early game until he starts pushing Om. there were only I think 3 or 4 posts before that, the rest of them were me.
viewtopic.php?f=56&t=60046 (mental somnic hydra) - he just ignores everything (and says as much) until he starts getting reads. all the other posts that were about stuff were Om.

it might be difficult to tell individual posts apart bc both of those are hydra games. most of his games he does the former as opposed to lurking the game out, but regardless (I can link more games if you want).

Scum examples would be more helpful, as I don't have the expectation for players to be that consistent in their town games. ff was the only game I could kinda see what you're saying, but I'll have to look harder later today or tomorrow.
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Post Post #227 (ISO) » Fri May 15, 2015 12:51 am

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FFX AU and Organic Chemistry (http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=56&t=54597) were the 2 games of his I was loosely following. I don't have any direct experience with scum-MS, but that's the impression I got from the posts of his I saw in both of those games.
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Post Post #228 (ISO) » Fri May 15, 2015 12:51 am

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In post 225, pieguyn wrote:
In post 205, Metal Sonic wrote:no, its just paranoia

*which* posts, specifically, are making you think this? cos I'm pretty fucking sure none of my posts this game have been above par in terms of how much effort I've put in - so you thinking this doesn't make sense. it feels more like you're attempting to come up with fake paranoia on me in order to hopefully get me to town read you (or otherwise look town) as opposed to legitimately believing this.


That's not true. I think this is your best posting I have ever seen in a long time.
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Post Post #229 (ISO) » Fri May 15, 2015 1:14 am

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*which* posts
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Post Post #230 (ISO) » Fri May 15, 2015 1:42 am

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The long ones
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Post Post #231 (ISO) » Fri May 15, 2015 1:42 am

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Specifically, 196 and 197
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Post Post #232 (ISO) » Fri May 15, 2015 10:11 am

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In post 195, Honey bee wrote:nah, I don't know pie's meta, so from the thread. My reads are varying from townie feeling to slightly scumish.

Which players are you finding slightly scummish?


In post 197, pieguyn wrote:elaborate on both of these? (in MS' case, I don't disagree, but I want to know your specific reasoning)

I wish I could but they're both gut reads really. With MS he just doesn't seem as comfortable as I've seen him elsewhere, and post felt a bit odd as I'd assumed his vote in was just rvs. It's not strong but it's the best I've got so far. With Honey bee it's even weaker but it started with ; I don't see how anyone could get a townread on MS at that point and the explanation in wasn't really very convincing.


@ Doduo:
Can you tell me which posts are by Marquis please?
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Post Post #233 (ISO) » Fri May 15, 2015 10:32 am

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In post 208, Doduo wrote:I think its funny that the two people who seemed kinda adamant on gaiden's post being a townslip are the two who are voting us though!

I don't actually understand what this is supposed to mean or say but OK.
If it makes you feel any better, I'm not really suspecting you all that much anymore.

Pie, the initial reason I started pushing Doduo was because it feels like they were falling into the background. I don't really feel that's the case anymore, and like the general push on MS so far.

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Post Post #234 (ISO) » Fri May 15, 2015 10:34 am

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voting scum is an option too

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Post Post #235 (ISO) » Fri May 15, 2015 10:37 am

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In post 173, Alchemist21 wrote:Also, I'm getting a gut scumlean on Gaiden. He feels more talkative than I remember his early games being.

VOTE: Gaiden

:/
This is such a weak reason for voting someone. Why do you think that he'd be more likely to post as scum than town? Why are you completely ignoring the MS push (which has much much stronger reasoning than this)? What do you think of the Gaiden townslip that's been discussed? Who do you think would have recruited Gaiden?

In post 221, Alchemist21 wrote:Who knows Gaiden well? How does he usually react to suspicion in him?

This is something you could very easily check yourself. Is he doing something that you find suspicious? If so, why not make a case out of it instead of asking other people to do your meta research for you?
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Post Post #236 (ISO) » Fri May 15, 2015 10:38 am

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In post 234, Doduo wrote:voting scum is an option too

In post 6, Nachomamma8 wrote:Hi guys, I'm the Old North Wind, and any town player I hammer becomes an Edlewood tree instead of outright dying. As a result, I should be hammering all lynches unless anyone else has a better hammer power than I do.

People who would be in my recruitment shortlist:
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People who maybe included me in their recruitment shortlist:
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This is why I'm not voting my strongest scumread, just as a friendly reminder.
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Post Post #237 (ISO) » Fri May 15, 2015 10:40 am

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i am pretty sure that becomes negative utility when it is used on scum

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Post Post #238 (ISO) » Fri May 15, 2015 10:40 am

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actually i'm pretty sure it's negative utility if used on ms period

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Post Post #239 (ISO) » Fri May 15, 2015 10:41 am

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In post 235, Nachomamma8 wrote: Who do you think would have recruited Gaiden?

anyone who would want to troll the hell out of town.
also, what's negative utility?
You're not going to make a silk purse out of a sow's ear. S*Gaiden will not make long cases, write stunning insights, or sugar coat his words. He is not the man for multi-paragraph eloquence. He is, however, being honest to a fault, and it comes across in his writing.
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Post Post #240 (ISO) » Fri May 15, 2015 10:42 am

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Scum cannot become Edlewood trees when hammered.
Saying dead MS would actively cause harm to the town is false and actually sort of rude.
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Post Post #241 (ISO) » Fri May 15, 2015 10:43 am

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In post 239, SXTLHGaiden wrote:
In post 235, Nachomamma8 wrote: Who do you think would have recruited Gaiden?

anyone who would want to troll the hell out of town.
also, what's negative utility?

bad for town
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Post Post #242 (ISO) » Fri May 15, 2015 10:43 am

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oh i missed "town"

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Post Post #243 (ISO) » Fri May 15, 2015 10:44 am

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nacho i'm probably the person least likely to actually believe that trust me

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Post Post #244 (ISO) » Fri May 15, 2015 10:48 am

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sorry, that was directed at Doduo asking what in particular was negative utility. though i now believe them to mean "not voting your strongest scum read"
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Post Post #245 (ISO) » Fri May 15, 2015 10:49 am

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i thought if he hammered scum they'd become a tree too

which is infinitely more negative than positive utility for obvious reasons

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Post Post #246 (ISO) » Fri May 15, 2015 11:21 am

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In post 232, Lia wrote:
In post 195, Honey bee wrote:nah, I don't know pie's meta, so from the thread. My reads are varying from townie feeling to slightly scumish.

Which players are you finding slightly scummish?


In post 197, pieguyn wrote:elaborate on both of these? (in MS' case, I don't disagree, but I want to know your specific reasoning)

I wish I could but they're both gut reads really. With MS he just doesn't seem as comfortable as I've seen him elsewhere, and post felt a bit odd as I'd assumed his vote in was just rvs. It's not strong but it's the best I've got so far. With Honey bee it's even weaker but it started with ; I don't see how anyone could get a townread on MS at that point and the explanation in wasn't really very convincing.


@ Doduo:
Can you tell me which posts are by Marquis please?

I play mostly by gut, so I am going by my twinges and he twinged townish early.

You were one of the slightly scummish people but I like this post. The others I will reveal later, i have to ponder some more. It's nearing deadline and I haven't figured out who I'd be good with lynching.
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Post Post #247 (ISO) » Fri May 15, 2015 11:25 am

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metal sonic?
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Post Post #248 (ISO) » Fri May 15, 2015 11:26 am

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you could vote, i could hammer, it could be a jolly day indeed
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Post Post #249 (ISO) » Fri May 15, 2015 11:35 am

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No not really. If he's lynched I wouldn't care too much but I have low expectations for him flipping scum.

Around deadline I'd probably do it.

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