Mod Error Mafia [TM2015] - Game Over

[xRECKONERx]

me and ceph are bffs now after a rough start and it always makes me wary when I realize someone has put themselves in my blind spot

[xRECKONERx]

because i lynched shos yesterday

so did like...several people

[Cephrir]

ive already given in to the fact that if youre scum we have lost

[Cephrir]

yeah, but i basically counterclaimed him

[xRECKONERx]

you counterclaiming him days after the claim is just as easily "a pre-planned scum QT bus scenario" as GreyICE targeting shos with his ability to setup a confirmable bus

[xRECKONERx]

Fucking hell. Goddammit.

NOBODY MAKES SENSE AS SCUM. I LITERALLY TYPED AND DELETED A GREYICE VOTE BECAUSE OF HOW ABSURD IT IS THAT HE WOULD GO THROUGH WITH THE BUDDY TARGET.

[Cephrir]

Well, he could be something else.

[Wisdom]

Why is it absurd? You argued it yourself earlier that he could do nothing else with it. It was either do this, or clear one of us. And given what the shos lynch gave to scum, it makes sense.

[xRECKONERx]

Because targeting his buddy in a pre-planned bus when neither of them were likely going to be lynched the next day is just wombo

[GreyICE]

Can anyone answer why it would be better for scum-me to lynch scum-Shos over town-Tbone yesterday?

You would've already put the bus into place N3... meaning that you couldn't really take it back after the track result was floating out there.

If you think I read that tracker result before I claimed you're giving me WAY too much credit.

And apparently he claimed an active role or someshit? Why would Shos design a fakeclaim that gave me an excuse not to investigate him and then what, I decide to investigate him?

[xRECKONERx]

Player	Role Flavor	Role	Additional role	Additional info	Fakeclaim
Katsuki	"When the mod forgets to lock the thread"	1-shot Thread Unlocker	Miller	Lynched D1
Bins	"When the mod ties alignment to flavor"	Conditional Cop		Killed N1
Cabd	"When the mod doesn't replace lurkers"	Limited Vote Mover		Lynched D2. Could control the votes of players who haven't posted in 48 hours
Rhinox	When the mod plays favorites"	Loud Doctor		Killed N2
TierShift	"When the Mod Messes Up Investigations"	Framer		Lynched D3	1-shot self-inventor "When the mod forgets to send a role PM"
notscience	"When the Mod Posts the Flip Too Early"	Doublevoter	Hated	Killed N3.. GreyICE says he has no night actions
shos	"When the mod confirms the action to the wrong player"	Vengeful Night Skipper		Lynched D4	Modified Self-Watcher
Iecerint	"When the mod gives results to the wrong player"	Amnesiac Tracker		Chooses both the tracked person and who gets the result. N1 tracked Ceph, gave to Tbone N2 tracked Reck, gave to Rhinox N3 tracked Grey, gave to Wisdom
LIVING PLAYERS:
Cephrir	"When the mod messes up the VC"	Vote Switcher	Miller	????? N1 Switched shos and NS' votes on N2 ????? N3
GreyICE	"When the mod doesn't replace players before the night ends"	Night-Action Cop		N1: Tbone has a night ability. N2: notscience does not have a night ability. N3: shos has a night ability
T-Bone	"When the mod forgets a night action"	Roleblocker		Blocked Eddie N1 Claimed to have received Iecerint's Track result - Ceph went nowhere. Blocked Rhinox N2 Blocked Reck N3
Wisdom	"When the mod just has to comment"	Messenger		Messaged Reck D1 Messaged shos D2 Messaged ???? D3 Messaged ???? D4
xRECKONERx	"When the mod keeps score"	Points Awarder		Controlled the 'score' thingie

[Wisdom]

But it was likely. Other than me, people were suspecting shos heavily. Ceph had even argued that Tier/shos was scumtheatre (still no idea where he saw that)

[Wisdom]

If you think I read that tracker result before I claimed you're giving me WAY too much credit.

yeah it wasnt that hard to guess the track was on you after I kept withholding it until you claimed

[Cephrir]

Would the game be balanced if Wisdom was scum? I'm not sure it would be.

[Cephrir]

But it was likely. Other than me, people were suspecting shos heavily. Ceph had even argued that Tier/shos was scumtheatre (still no idea where he saw that)

Holy shit, I was right about this!

[xRECKONERx]

Wisdom's nameclaim is still weird. "Just" being in there is sort of weird considering the other rolenames have been really matter-of-fact and didn't have personality infused into it. "When the Mod JUST Has to Comment" seems to buck that trend.

GI's nameclaim is more wordy, but makes more sense.

Ceph has the miller claim still hanging over his head. TWO MILLERS with a FRAMER seems just so excessive, doesn't it? UGH.

[Wisdom]

eh. cant really comment on that. It does have "just" for whatever reason.

[Cephrir]

If just wasn't in the rolename, it wouldn't really work, imo.

[xRECKONERx]

T-Bone being a plain old RB makes no sense.

Wisdom's nameclaim makes no sense.

Ceph being a second miller with a framer + miller already in the setup makes no sense.

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Grey has the least amount of shit pointing his direction right now, from a purely objective info point of view. I don't see the "case" on him really.

[Wisdom]

But given it is proven I have the role I said I have, I don't know why you're doubting my role name. It's not like it's some random unproven claim.

[xRECKONERx]

That's... a really valid point.

I'm swinging back towards thinking Grey v Wis is town on town but I just don't fucking know man.

[Wisdom]

Like, what's the argument here, that I have a different role name for Messenger and I changed it because..?

[Cephrir]

Grey, how is your ability worded?

[xRECKONERx]

Every second I'm changing my mind on Grey.

I don't think Wisdom is scum now, giving his play some more thought.

Grey, I could see, just because of how he seems to be floating. one sec.

[Wisdom]

its not town on town dude. Grey's sudden tunnel on me is shallow and points to him being scum.