Signs and Void (Game Over) [TM2015]

[Titus]

The only exception to the post limit is if someone asks me a question.

[Oversoul]

Over, are you town reading vezok or just not scum readinghhim?

Town reading him.

[Oversoul]

UT, I do agree that Gamma's 180 on you is suspicious. I did suspect Gamma early on because his pushes did not look genuine. They looked more like convenience pushes. However, I think his 180 on you is out of frustration at the game state. I would be curious to see what his opinion was like when I first started pushing on you.
I find it odd how I tried for your lynch when I first replaced in everyone was against your lynch, then a day passed and UT lynch was the biggest fad since shutter shades.

[Oversoul]

Over, are you town reading vezok or just not scum readinghhim?

Town reading him.

But I did find it odd that Vezok threatened me with potentially outting a PR when he has been tracing.

[Untrod Tripod]

TITUS

I posted A TON of shit and you completely ignored it

what is the deal

[vezokpiraka]

Guys. We're lynching bullshit claim 4nx today.

We get gamma tomorrow.

[Untrod Tripod]

howwwwwwwww about we lynch gamma today and you guys can fritter away your time on setup speculation when I'm dead!

[Gammagooey]

I don't think DV saying that he didn't want to do the trace/detect plan day 1 points to him having the role he's claimed- it's tangentially relevant yes but I don't think that him saying that he doesn't want to follow the plan actually makes it more likely that he has that role. I don't see a reason why that decision would be changed by having a slightly stronger trace than everyone else, and I still think that his role as he's claimed it doesn't make sense to exist.

And whoever said that he was tracing people that other people weren't looking at is ABSOLUTELY wrong. empire was almost baned right before DV supposedly traced him, and espeonage has been considered for being lynched and baned throughout the entire game.

[Untrod Tripod]

[singersigner]

I don't think DV saying that he didn't want to do the trace/detect plan day 1 points to him having the role he's claimed- it's tangentially relevant yes but I don't think that him saying that he doesn't want to follow the plan actually makes it more likely that he has that role. I don't see a reason why that decision would be changed by having a slightly stronger trace than everyone else, and I still think that his role as he's claimed it doesn't make sense to exist.

And whoever said that he was tracing people that other people weren't looking at is ABSOLUTELY wrong. empire was almost baned right before DV supposedly traced him, and espeonage has been considered for being lynched and baned throughout the entire game.

He disappeared after his claim, go figure.
He still needs to answer for his sign change and also why he felt it relevent to "out" it, since if town, that only gives scum more ammunition. Unless it really is an infinite loop, and the second scum tries to kill him, it changes his sign, which is essentially a bulletproof Viktor-cop???

No.

Just no.

Also people speculating for him and defending him before he can answer himself WHEN HE SHOULD HAVE THE ANSWER/THOUGHT PROCESS AT HIS FINGERTIPS should really just stop. This is the point of finding out if claims are bullshit. Seriously. I shouldn't be the only one who understands this.

Also Titus ignoring everything but trying to defend the claim and saying that a no-lynch could be better than lynching someone other than Aronis is terrible considering the crap I was given for not lynching Espy D1 and how she's made a big fuss about needing to get "the right lynch" when it only means something IF WE LYNCH SOMEONE.

[Cheetory6]

I probly won't be around much the rest of this weekend so I'm gonna go ahead and claim in case people just vote me in the next two days.

Not that I want to defend him all that much or anything, but it's a misrep to say that he just vanished without a reason.

[Untrod Tripod]

I probly won't be around much the rest of this weekend so I'm gonna go ahead and claim in case people just vote me in the next two days.

Not that I want to defend him all that much or anything, but it's a misrep to say that he just vanished without a reason.

I probly won't be around much the rest of this weekend so I'm gonna go ahead and claim in case people just vote me in the next two days.

Not that I want to defend him all that much or anything, but it's a misrep to say that he just vanished without a reason.

I probly won't be around much the rest of this weekend so I'm gonna go ahead and claim in case people just vote me in the next two days.

Not that I want to defend him all that much or anything, but it's a misrep to say that he just vanished without a reason.

I probly won't be around much the rest of this weekend so I'm gonna go ahead and claim in case people just vote me in the next two days.

Not that I want to defend him all that much or anything, but it's a misrep to say that he just vanished without a reason.

I probly won't be around much the rest of this weekend so I'm gonna go ahead and claim in case people just vote me in the next two days.

Not that I want to defend him all that much or anything, but it's a misrep to say that he just vanished without a reason.

I probly won't be around much the rest of this weekend so I'm gonna go ahead and claim in case people just vote me in the next two days.

Not that I want to defend him all that much or anything, but it's a misrep to say that he just vanished without a reason.

I probly won't be around much the rest of this weekend so I'm gonna go ahead and claim in case people just vote me in the next two days.

Not that I want to defend him all that much or anything, but it's a misrep to say that he just vanished without a reason.

I probly won't be around much the rest of this weekend so I'm gonna go ahead and claim in case people just vote me in the next two days.

Not that I want to defend him all that much or anything, but it's a misrep to say that he just vanished without a reason.

I probly won't be around much the rest of this weekend so I'm gonna go ahead and claim in case people just vote me in the next two days.

Not that I want to defend him all that much or anything, but it's a misrep to say that he just vanished without a reason.

I probly won't be around much the rest of this weekend so I'm gonna go ahead and claim in case people just vote me in the next two days.

Not that I want to defend him all that much or anything, but it's a misrep to say that he just vanished without a reason.

I probly won't be around much the rest of this weekend so I'm gonna go ahead and claim in case people just vote me in the next two days.

Not that I want to defend him all that much or anything, but it's a misrep to say that he just vanished without a reason.

I probly won't be around much the rest of this weekend so I'm gonna go ahead and claim in case people just vote me in the next two days.

Not that I want to defend him all that much or anything, but it's a misrep to say that he just vanished without a reason.

I probly won't be around much the rest of this weekend so I'm gonna go ahead and claim in case people just vote me in the next two days.

Not that I want to defend him all that much or anything, but it's a misrep to say that he just vanished without a reason.

I probly won't be around much the rest of this weekend so I'm gonna go ahead and claim in case people just vote me in the next two days.

Not that I want to defend him all that much or anything, but it's a misrep to say that he just vanished without a reason.

I probly won't be around much the rest of this weekend so I'm gonna go ahead and claim in case people just vote me in the next two days.

Not that I want to defend him all that much or anything, but it's a misrep to say that he just vanished without a reason.

I probly won't be around much the rest of this weekend so I'm gonna go ahead and claim in case people just vote me in the next two days.

Not that I want to defend him all that much or anything, but it's a misrep to say that he just vanished without a reason.

I probly won't be around much the rest of this weekend so I'm gonna go ahead and claim in case people just vote me in the next two days.

Not that I want to defend him all that much or anything, but it's a misrep to say that he just vanished without a reason.

I probly won't be around much the rest of this weekend so I'm gonna go ahead and claim in case people just vote me in the next two days.

Not that I want to defend him all that much or anything, but it's a misrep to say that he just vanished without a reason.

I probly won't be around much the rest of this weekend so I'm gonna go ahead and claim in case people just vote me in the next two days.

Not that I want to defend him all that much or anything, but it's a misrep to say that he just vanished without a reason.

I probly won't be around much the rest of this weekend so I'm gonna go ahead and claim in case people just vote me in the next two days.

Not that I want to defend him all that much or anything, but it's a misrep to say that he just vanished without a reason.

I probly won't be around much the rest of this weekend so I'm gonna go ahead and claim in case people just vote me in the next two days.

Not that I want to defend him all that much or anything, but it's a misrep to say that he just vanished without a reason.

[Titus]

TITUS

I posted A TON of shit and you completely ignored it

what is the deal

I did. I'm not seeing how Gamma gets lynched today. I figured that your points were brought up too late to swing a lynch there. My focus is making sure all town people get along tomorrow. If your Gamma reasoning is persuasive, I have every intent of brining it up tomorrow. I wish you would have brought those up sooner, so we could adequately discuss them. A rushed discussion at this point doesn't do us good. Gamma should respond today, but the best approach to your Gamma read is to act like I'm on a jury rather than a counselor persuading for a particular objective and let cooler heads prevail. I think you're both town and engaging that point might just fuel a tunnel that doesn't help us prepare for tomorrow.

This is as much a mental chess and endurance game. Scum are going to want a mislynch here above all else, because of the gamestate it leaves for us tomorrow. Prove we can swing a Gamma lynch, then we can talk more, but more chaos is not what we need here. We need to unite.

*Must resist urge to tunnel war with Singer who is pushing a mislynch based in bullshit*

P:edit: UT and Cheet beat me to it.

[Untrod Tripod]

the way we get a lynch to happen is by putting votes on it and arguing for it

if you're in favor of it then PUT YOUR VOTE THERE and we can persuade people. you're widely townread, I'm alquin, and the people against it are using bullshit reasoning so I think it could happen

[Titus]

@UT, You're missing the point, prove we can get the votes on Gamma if I switch or prove that Aronis 100% is not happening. Otherwise, there's no point in engaging your case because people seem to not want to do anything I want to do and advocate aggressively for, so I have to try a new tactic.

[Untrod Tripod]

I see a lot of people saying "this can't happen", not "I disagree with your case"

I think if a few people actually engage with the case it will have support

[Untrod Tripod]

I see a lot of people saying "this can't happen", not "I disagree with your case"

I think if a few people actually engage with the case it will have support

and this, by the way, should be a gigantic red flag that scum are waiting in the wings to bus but don't want to create the momentum if they don't have

let's force them to choose

[Titus]

I'll admit I am one, who else do you think is?

[Untrod Tripod]

I don't think you're scum

[Untrod Tripod]

and I've already said who my scumreads are

[Titus]

I meant that I'm indifferent due to it being unlikely to swing a lynch. Who else is saying that, regardless of your read on them from your perspective?

[Oversoul]

I just got severe vertigo scrolling on the massive cheetory quote post UT

[Untrod Tripod]

oversoul, singer, cheet, you

I think there are more but honestly can't you just read the game for yourself...

[Formerfish]

Vote Aro

Not voting Anx today.

Over: can we talk about your Vezok town read and its origins?

[Titus]

@UT, I am reading. Don't get me wrong. Yet, if I was even willing to vote Gamma at deadline, Singer won't. Singer's reads are literally the opposite of whatever I would do. If I advocate for it, then Singer won't do it. Honestly, if you'd want both of us voting for it, the best move for us is for me to fake being resistant to it. Singer would vote it. Then Cheetory and Oversoul. Then we'd still have to swing a couple more. That's even supposing an ideal gamestate. I just literally don't see the numbers.

So that's my issue. Don't suppose I'm not reading because I can't get to 9.