In post 55, pieguyn wrote:
what have I done so far this game that I would be less likely to do as scum?
Dude, I don't know how you play as scum. If I do, it was veeeeery long ago, and I vaguely remember you suck as scum. I've only seen your towngames and I haven't played much with you recently (I was flaking in the taylor swift game and you know it; you caught AH and I caught Ika, but apart from spot-on reads I didn't do much)
In post 73, SXTLHGaiden wrote:I am actually quite paranoid of pie after i played against him as scum.
he is quite terrifying when he knows the flavor.
This comment here made me pretty nervous because then I will have to calibrate my scumhunting sense appropriately. A recent game (Twin Trap) showed me my scumhunting folly when I applied too high a standard for a player's scumgame that was utterly weak -- I overestimated his scumgame. If I underestimate your scumgame, it won't be great either.
In post 123, pieguyn wrote:Doduo's opinion of MS basically sums up where I'm at.
I don't see any kind of town approach in the way MS is playing this game so far. all of his reads have felt half-hearted - as if he's just making them up - and it feels like he's just posting a fuckton of stuff to look useful without actually putting any thought into the game. in my experience with MS, even his town reads have more to them and are more relevant to what people are actually doing than "xxx is cute".
This is baseless. Have you actually not seen me give the reason for townreading someone as "xxx is cute" before? Because it is a valid reason and you know it. Besides, I can hardly see you disagreeing with the Honey Bee read, his posts have come from a town mindset and are attempting to figure out the game. It's a shame that you are unable to detect the nuance in his posts.
In post 125, pieguyn wrote:how does "doduo wasn't in my game" make him scum? even discounting the fact it was possible (given you knew Marquis was in another game) he was following along with the other team mafia games - why, specifically, do you think him referencing the game you were in is more likely to come from scum than town?
Because I thought that he was lying. I was duly corrected when I figured out which game he was referring to, and even though town-marquis has every right to fear my scumgame, I don't see them approaching from a town mindset. They aren't trying to get a read on me or interact with me, instead they are trolling on a level even greater than I am (I'm not even trolling, or at least I don't consider myself to be doing so at this stage). If you do a quick ISO on them, you can't see any of their attempt to figure out the game, no townreads, only 1 <implicit> scumread "MS is scum" -- why? Not explained.
In post 127, pieguyn wrote:*why* is Bee obvtown and can you walk me through the Doduo read?
I'm not just asking you these questions for no reason.
Of course, I understand. You're attempting to get a read on me and to understand my thought process. Now take a look at what Doduo has been doing, can you say that they have been trying to do the same?
In post 140, pieguyn wrote:I'm looking through it again and I still have no idea what you're seeing here. I think his read on you is a really shit reason for scum reading him (I'm aware you have a lot of experience with each other, but I'm pretty sure I've read you right in every game we've had (?) - so I don't have a problem with him scum reading you for the same reason), and I don't mind the rest of his posts, either.
needless to say this doesn't make him town, but if I scum read him it will likely be for other reasons
Well, it's not so much the read on me rather than the LACK OF READ on anybody else. They're scumtunnelling so as to avoid providing opinions on other players in the game. That's what I think.
In post 340, pieguyn wrote:this seemed to imply you were open to the possibility of Gaiden being scum. I'm asking how this makes sense when you had just said he was "conftown" - it felt more like you were just agreeing for the sake of it as opposed to actually believing it
That's misrepresentative. Alchemist stated an observation about Gaiden and I corroborated it. I'm not sure how you inferred that it amounted to a scumread on him, especially when I've posted my reads list like 3 times in the game already.
Also, please don't be serious that you took my "gaiden conftown" thing literally. I mean, I've made the point, but seriously?
In post 340, pieguyn wrote:even if I suddenly start thinking you're town, how does that change the fact that all my posting *up to* that point would have been blatantly wrong?
It's fine to be wrong if you're being obvtown in the process
In post 342, pieguyn wrote:8 or so for MS-scum (bc he's blatantly BS'ing here. the only thing giving me pause here is, as you said, the possibility that he is actually this much of a derp and went amnesic recently - but while he can be a derp as town, it's never this fucking ridiculous).
I did get
amnesic
more derpy recently; lack of sleep and the stress of unfinished homework that was procrastinated from a lost Team Mafia. However, though that is a fact, I can't believe that you think that my play has been remotely ridiculous, I think I've been playing OK from my own standards. Not as good a game as Team Mafia, but better than a couple.
