New York 185: Freshwater Frenzy!

[SilverWolf]

Ozgin was not even in Delicious for that long. He was gone for long periods of time and replaced out. That is not a good representation of Ozgin's meta of using Citizen or not.

[Bookitty]

He used town a lot. Look at his ISO, SilverWolf.

[House]

I was suspicious in the hood for trying to engage you in conversation and actually use the hood? And you guys wonder why I thought the wagon was week even before the claim.

If the wagon was weak, why the claim?

[SilverWolf]

He used town a lot. Look at his ISO, SilverWolf.

Hmmmm, I just checked and you make a good point. I'd think scum is more likely to check out the sample PM closely than town would.

[dragonspawn]

I was suspicious in the hood for trying to engage you in conversation and actually use the hood? And you guys wonder why I thought the wagon was week even before the claim.

If the wagon was weak, why the claim?

I didn't make it.

[SilverWolf]

@mod

Is Aero being replaced?

[FA_Q2]

Oh, and what color is your Role PM?

Oh, I forgot this bit.
The colour of my role in my role pm is like a mid-light green, not the usual darkish green I don't think. Tells me I should eliminate threats to the town as well, so I guess I should read what's been going on (have been procrastinating a little)

Hey, it's the same colour as the sample role pm in the OP. There you go.

Wait, what?
Mid-light green? Darkish green? Same as the Sample PM?
There was no Mid-light green in my role PM at all! Its text is f-cking black!

VOTE: Lalaladucks

Also, your reads are not only vague but also strange. Not a single reason for Egg, nor Bookitty, whom you're scumreading. TSO and Varsoon are fence-sitty reads (and there are no clear reads on those nowadays), the slight scumlean on Prolapsed might even suggest a possible partnership with him (althoug I know that I'm over-speculating this now).

I like that you like my posts, I like even more that you like E.B.O.N.Y. (frankly, I've put an INSANE amount of effort in that game), but posting these is a sign of appeasing/buddying/I-don'tknow-what-I-need-to-call-it. Sorry to say, but right now this is another thing why I like the idea that you're scum.

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I don't like PB, RC, kitz. I'm ok with lynching one of these three.

RC?

I'm good with a Prolapsed vote right now.
VOTE: Prolapsed Brain

That's a good vote. I'm willing to join that wagon too but I want to see your opinion about Lala's answer I quoted above. Refute me if it wasn't a slip.

Why would Lala state her role PM was different than the example given and then point to the example and state it looked like that?


Further, if you read the statement again, it states that the color OF HER ROLE is green. It does NOT state that the text in the box is any color. IOW, I believe that she is referring to the header that is colored which happens to be THE ROLE.

I think lala is likely scum for reasons I will get into in a following post but I think your focus on the role PM is not only misguided but that you misinterpreted what was actually stated. In short - you are wasting your scum hunting on a point that is irrelevant. Considering that you are one of the very few I would town read at this point I would prefer that you not waste that scum hunting

[FA_Q2]

Well, I saw Mad Max and it was truly awesome. I want to see it again!

In other news, I AM in a neighbourhood with Dragonspawn and House.

I felt (and others can express what they thought) that he was using the neighbourhood as a venue for testing the waters and trying out things before pushing his suspicions in the main thread. I've been a little reticent to use the hood as a discussion forum because I think it likely there are scum in it.

As for the Taly-Dragonspawn-Ozgin link, both of the first two seemed pretty wishy-washy on the Ozgin issue and I wanted to see how things played out. My initial vote on Dragon was essentially because House asked me to in the hood (not just me, but I was willing). The reactions haven't made me more comfortable with Taly either.

@Taly: What questions of yours have I missed, please?

We're lynching Bookitty or House today. I don't believe anyone else should be lynched. House and Bookitty both were on the list of me saying I believe one of them to be scum. And Dragon isn't scum. you can do it, by the way.

Really, I woudl call you scum for this except all the back and fourth with dragon.

WHY bookitty

. You have been asked this MULTIPLE times. Answer already. Hopefully the bigger text will get the point across.

[FA_Q2]

The problem with scumhunting in my neighborhood right now is that I'm really certain of my Cheetory townread and while I doubt TSO and Drixx, they literally are not here to receive the pressure of a wagon.
On the other hand, I am highly suspicious of House (post-claim) and Dragonspawn, and I don't exactly have a wondrous townread on you or Kitz either. Given that House and Dragonspawn are vocal and around, hunting out of that 'hood seemed preferable in regards to tangible results given activity.
I think that we should consider both 'hoods as pools of players that have anti-town (at least) in them, but some people think Wake set up large 'hoods just to fuck with us.

P-EDIT:
@Boonskies: The scum incentive would be to pose as best friends. Daychat = scum theatre.
:/
But, yes, like you said. A best friend flip from either one of you will clear the other. That's why I'll let that nonsense lie.

That is very poor scum reasoning for both them and house. With multiple scum teams and possibly p3 kills per night out there, any PR claims at this point are simply idiotic if they are scum. The likelihood they will be targeted is astronomical.

So far I would state that house, dragon and boon are off the table.

[FA_Q2]

As a start, Laladucks, I've chosen six random names for you.

Egg
Varsoon
TSO
Bookitty
Prolapsed Brain
DragonSpawn

That's about the third of the playerlist, excluding you. What's your reads on them?
Oh, and what color is your Role PM?

Hello Aneninen.
I like your posts.
And the weirdest riddle game on the internet is pretty cool.

Haven't read all the posts, missing a big chunk of about page 29 onwards, but...

Egg:

townie brownie

Varsoon:

sometimes I think he's scum, sometimes I think he's town. Guess I'd say slightly leaning towards town for now.

TSO:

idk how I'm supposed to discern his alignment from 13 posts. His confirmation post was backwards. That was nice ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Maybe leaning town for TSO. Yeah. Leaning town.

Bookitty:

hello mafia kitty

[color=lightgreen0]Prolapsed Brain:[/color]

8 posts?! Even freaking worse. Ugh. I don't like anything he's posted, slight scumlean.

dragonspawn:

oh, that juxtaposition in post quantity. I'll tentatively accept the Best Friends claim for now since I sorta kinda predicted it because of that discussion thread I saw.

Prolaps is scum lean right after a few start scum reading him. Same with the bookitty read. There has been no reasoning that I have seen to read boo as scum yet here you are giving him a hard scum read without the slightest reason why. I can only assume you are jumping on the fact that Boon - considered town at this time by most - is calling him scum.

Really looks to me like you are scum that is jumping on the first available information to put a post up without getting to deep in the thread. VERY opportunistic and scummy IMHO.

Couple this with the fact that most of your posts seem to be 'apologetic' for your future fluff posting and I get a scum read on you.

VOTE: lalaladucks

[FA_Q2]

Wow, this game is moving fast.

Silverwolf is town. This looks like her town game.

Other town reads: Egg, Cheet, Boon, Anen, Lalaladucks, Taly, Varsoon.

I'm leaning town on Titus, but she is hard for me to read. House is the same way.

TSO, FA, Drixx, and Aero haven't posted enough to even start to get a read.

I don't like PB, RC, kitz. I'm ok with lynching one of these three.

People said that a LOT in 180. Guess what wolf was...

[Skybird]

Hi FA_Q2! Good to see you.

@Anen, what FA said on the lalaladucks/role pm thing. I'm not scum reading her but am interested to see what points FA has.

[FA_Q2]

I also have a scum lean on RC but less sure there. I don't like the fake dayvig on an obvious mason like claim. There is zero town motivation to it. None at all.

[Skybird]

FA - I get your point on Wolf, but for now, I don't see any discrepancies that would indicate she isn't town.

[FA_Q2]

Hi FA_Q2! Good to see you.

@Anen, what FA said on the lalaladucks/role pm thing. I'm not scum reading her but am interested to see what points FA has.

points in 1034.

I don't like how lala points to people as scum with the only discernible reason being others recently pointed that direction - particularly sheeping boon who provides nothing to sheep other than being town.

I think lala is scum who does not have enough time to play or inclination to read the entire damn thread as it is quite an undertaking in these large games. As I said - it is extremely opportunistic.

[RadiantCowbells]

I'm finding a lot of the people who are throwing scumreads onto me without doing anything about it highly suspect.

[Boonskiies]

Varsoon, how do you figure dragonspawn hasn't taken a convicted approach to this game? He seems to be to me. Also, now that I've seen in the neighborhood that the claim is out from him and Boon, I can say this. Why were you trying so hard to make them claim. It was obvious it would be something mason-like. Was it that important for it to be said? Why keep pushing when it became obvious? Why also keep pushing him as scum? Even if he is, he's not a Day 1 lynch. One of the three non-town factions pretty much has to kill them at some point.

Dragonspawn, I know the hood hasn't been insanely active, but saying it's hardly been used seems like an exaggaration as well. You and I have been talking in there. Bookitty was talking in there. House, while he is making a point about not wanting to say much, has still been posting there. Even Kitz has posted some. It's not like we are still on the first page or anything.

Radiant, I don't think you answered my question. Why are you playing?

Drinking game. Anytime someone does something stupid. Drink.

My liver could never handle this.

House, where has Bookitty AtE'd?

Anen, sorry but that style of response was hard to follow. What were you looking for hints on? Titus? I don't think I've seen her scum game before...Also, I agree with your whole paragraph about mafia being an evolving game. But you still won't ever see me lurk strategically. My activity depends 100% on real life and right now I happen to have 24 consecutive days off work so poker and family are the only reasons for me not to post. That's why I'm mostly keeping up with this game. My town PM has nothing to do with it. I'm mostly trying to determine whether your read on me is a genuine one and I think it is. Unfortunately, you could still be scum with a legitimate read with multiple teams so, *shrug*.

Skybird, you said you have Boon as town. Do you have dragonspawn as town as well or is your Boon read a weak one?

Cheet, why don't I get a post about my ISO like the rest of your colored reads. (Or at least some of them but still) </3

I like this.

[dragonspawn]

I'm finding a lot of the people who are throwing scumreads onto me without doing anything about it highly suspect.

Why? There are seven scum in this game. If they find you suspect and are voting for another of their choices they think are more likely scum why would that be suspect in the least?

[RadiantCowbells]

Because it's clear that some people want to keep me fresh in everyone's minds for a mislynch later but don't want to push me while they don't have to.

So, like, when we're actually pushing scum they'll come up and be OH EVERYONE REMEMBER RC WHY DID WE NEVER LYNCH THAT?

[FA_Q2]

Because it's clear that some people want to keep me fresh in everyone's minds for a mislynch later but don't want to push me while they don't have to.

So, like, when we're actually pushing scum they'll come up and be OH EVERYONE REMEMBER RC WHY DID WE NEVER LYNCH THAT?

Or you are scummy - just less so than, say, lala.

Oh wait, that is exactly the case with at least one player...

[FA_Q2]

Oz has only gotten scummier in the last several pages as well.

We should lynch Oz or lala today. Both of them are good, viable options.

[Varsoon]

@Egg: The only claim I was looking for from dragonspawn was a neighbor claim. When it became painfully obvious that Boon/Dragon were crumbing masons/friends, my response was denial of that. I

still

think it's not true.
I'd rather push people on their play independent of claims, though. I got caught up in way too much setup spec as of late and I don't think it's helped us out that much. We'll see D2 if it plays out well, I guess.

@FAQ2: Why don't you want to vote for Prolapsed Brain?

We're not lynching out of House, Dragonspawn, Boonskies, or Ozgin today.
Can we please focus on other wagons for now?
I'd rather not have a 200 page D1.

That said, Prolapsed Brain needs votes badly.

[dragonspawn]

How come no one has really addressed why we should vote pb over some others I asked a while ago?

[Titus]

We're lynching Ozgin Varsoon. You want to shorten the day, get on the wagon of win. Catching up.

Dragon, highlight the post with your suspects and I will get to it, but we are lynching Ozgin. No more lynch shopping.

[Drixx]

I am getting the heebiejeebies out of Boonskiies this game. I'm also doubly getting the heebiejeebies that Varsoon is chainsawing for him whilest scum reading me for having something come up IRL. More to come, but holy crap Boonskiies appears to be an entirely different person this game than in any prior play with him. That's setting off all kinds of alarms for me.