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Post Post #725 (ISO) » Tue May 19, 2015 1:28 pm

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In post 723, RadiantCowbells wrote:I'm fucking done this game is going to go to hell if you guys let this continue.

this game gets instantly better when we lynch you and get a day 1 scum flip. The fact your scum buddies are doing a great job at creating diversions on to other people is really helping you out.
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Post Post #726 (ISO) » Tue May 19, 2015 1:28 pm

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which is fucking dog shit because the lurking is in itself the tell we're reading
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Post Post #727 (ISO) » Tue May 19, 2015 1:29 pm

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In post 726, RadiantCowbells wrote:which is fucking dog shit because the lurking is in itself the tell we're reading

and more proof you are scum because LURKING IS A NULL TELL.
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Post Post #728 (ISO) » Tue May 19, 2015 1:30 pm

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Annie is a boy.

doesn't make it true.
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Post Post #729 (ISO) » Tue May 19, 2015 1:35 pm

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(4): Jake from State Farm, Grimmjow, evilpacman18, Lostaway
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(3): Elyse, Flubbernugget, pisskop
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(2): BROseidon, MattP
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(1): Oversoul
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(1): VysePresident
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(1): The Bulge

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None.


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Post Post #730 (ISO) » Tue May 19, 2015 1:35 pm

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In post 698, Oversoul wrote:
In post 693, MattP wrote:I would actually love to know why YOU think I'm scum OS


Flubber push was bad bad bad. Like I said earlier, I would expect you to not go after a weak player like that and misunderstand an
obvious post.
It looks like you want to scum read Flubber, but don't actually believe it yourself because you know Flubber isn't scum.

Your whole push against Flubber didn't sit right with me.



In post 649, Oversoul wrote:
I would have spoken up earlier but I didn't want to answer for Flubber since I wasn't 100%.


This is why pronouns are bad guys.

How do these two equate?
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Post Post #731 (ISO) » Tue May 19, 2015 1:38 pm

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Town are split between a billion different wagons and we can't push them all.
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Post Post #732 (ISO) » Tue May 19, 2015 1:39 pm

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That narrative doesn't make any sense.

It looks like OS didn't point out my misunderstanding because he just either wanted me to dig myself into a hole or because Flubber is town and he knows I'm town and he didn't want to get in the way of a TvT conflict
In post 637, Oversoul wrote::]

RC is doing nothing with my vote.
I may join you soo Matt

And if it was
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a bad push on my part, and the post I misunderstood was SO obviously not what I read it as, then why did OS say this ^
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Post Post #733 (ISO) » Tue May 19, 2015 1:42 pm

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I already knew oversoul was scum, welcome to the party pal
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Post Post #734 (ISO) » Tue May 19, 2015 1:42 pm

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I've made up my mind that I'm not lynching Flubber today.

He might still be scum but there are so many better lynches for the day.

Please get off Flubber and do something else for now, and I'll address Flubber some other time.
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Post Post #735 (ISO) » Tue May 19, 2015 1:43 pm

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JFSM, I've been calling OS scum too bud
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Post Post #736 (ISO) » Tue May 19, 2015 1:46 pm

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sadly though I think you are trying to bus him cause I think you are probably scum also. The fact that you falsely accuse me of being disengaging while actually ignoring game content that was being posted doesn't paint you in a very positive light and it certainly wasn't very pro-town.
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Post Post #737 (ISO) » Tue May 19, 2015 1:49 pm

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1) OS lets me tunnel Flubber for PAGES

2) OS says he might join my Flubber wagon
In post 637, Oversoul wrote:I may join you soo Matt


3) Flubber points out my misunderstanding
In post 643, Flubbernugget wrote:I never asked rc to make a case on OS

I asked rc to make a case on grimm.


4) OS says that he wasn't 100% sure whether my interpretation of Flubber's post was a right or wrong interpretation
In post 649, Oversoul wrote:I would have spoken up earlier but I didn't want to answer for Flubber since I wasn't 100%.

This is why pronouns are bad guys.


5) OS starts saying I'm scummy and bashes my Flubber push
In post 698, Oversoul wrote:Flubber push was bad bad bad.


6a) OS says it was
obvious
what Flubber was saying and that's it's scummy I misunderstood
In post 698, Oversoul wrote:I would expect you to not go after a weak player like that and misunderstand an obvious post.

Which contradicts with part 4

6b) And he says the Flubber push was bad
In post 698, Oversoul wrote:Flubber push was bad bad bad.

Which contradicts with him catering to joining the wagon in part 2
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Post Post #738 (ISO) » Tue May 19, 2015 1:51 pm

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In post 736, Jake from State Farm wrote:sadly though I think you are trying to bus him cause I think you are probably scum also. The fact that you falsely accuse me of being disengaging while actually ignoring game content that was being posted doesn't paint you in a very positive light and it certainly wasn't very pro-town.

I think those two things are glaringly separate and that's a huge logical jump on your part but we can table it for now
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Post Post #739 (ISO) » Tue May 19, 2015 1:51 pm

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Town Reads (in no order):
Vyse
Bro

Neutral (leaning town)
RC
EPM
PK

True Neutral
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Elyse
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Neutral (leaning scum):
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Jake

I support a Lost lynch right now. He's reading very scummy to me.
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Post Post #740 (ISO) » Tue May 19, 2015 1:52 pm

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VOTE: Oversoul
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Post Post #741 (ISO) » Tue May 19, 2015 1:55 pm

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For the record, Jake, I think I played a really shitty opening this game. But that's not consistent with my general play.
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Post Post #742 (ISO) » Tue May 19, 2015 1:55 pm

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And OS
really did
self-contradict in a scummy way. If people are scumreading him then that's a good place for a wagon.
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Post Post #743 (ISO) » Tue May 19, 2015 2:05 pm

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Oh I'm still on Grimm wtf

VOTE: RC
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Post Post #744 (ISO) » Tue May 19, 2015 2:05 pm

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In post 728, RadiantCowbells wrote:Annie is a boy.

doesn't make it true.


sorry scum, but lurking IS a nulltell and it's true based on site meta.
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Post Post #745 (ISO) » Tue May 19, 2015 2:07 pm

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In post 737, MattP wrote:Which contradicts with part 4

How is that a contradiction?

In post 737, MattP wrote:Which contradicts with him catering to joining the wagon in part 2


How is wanting to join a wagon a contradiction?
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Post Post #746 (ISO) » Tue May 19, 2015 2:10 pm

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In post 745, Oversoul wrote:
In post 737, MattP wrote:Which contradicts with part 4

How is that a contradiction?

In post 737, MattP wrote:Which contradicts with him catering to joining the wagon in part 2


How is wanting to join a wagon a contradiction?

You just phrased both my conclusions in question form

I don't think that detracted from how clear the conclusions are
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Post Post #747 (ISO) » Tue May 19, 2015 2:14 pm

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"how is wanting to join your Flubber wagon in contradiction with me calling the Flubber wagon bad?"

"how is me saying I wasn't 100% positive about pronoun usage in Flubber's post in contradiction with me saying that Flubber's post was obvious to understand?"
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Post Post #748 (ISO) » Tue May 19, 2015 2:19 pm

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In post 747, MattP wrote:"how is wanting to join your Flubber wagon in contradiction with me calling the Flubber wagon bad?"

"how is me saying I wasn't 100% positive about pronoun usage in Flubber's post in contradiction with me saying that Flubber's post was obvious to understand?"


1. Wagons are good. I only hesitated once I saw the apparent pronoun issue and felt you were being over aggressive
2. I didn't realize 100% certainty was the threshold for everything that we have to do
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Post Post #749 (ISO) » Tue May 19, 2015 2:24 pm

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In post 748, Oversoul wrote:
In post 747, MattP wrote:"how is wanting to join your Flubber wagon in contradiction with me calling the Flubber wagon bad?"

"how is me saying I wasn't 100% positive about pronoun usage in Flubber's post in contradiction with me saying that Flubber's post was obvious to understand?"


1. Wagons are good. I only hesitated once I saw the apparent pronoun issue and felt you were being over aggressive
2. I didn't realize 100% certainty was the threshold for everything that we have to do

1) You said the wagon was "easy" and you didn't like my push / didn't like me
prior
to the pronoun issue. That directly contradicts with you being onboard with the wagon and being willing to jump onto it.
2) You certainly hit some "threshold", or so you say, where you were
uncertain enough
not to point out I had a misunderstanding. That directly contradicts with you thinking it was
so
obvious that it makes me scummy that I had the misunderstanding
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