NY 184: a help (done)

[Elyse]

VOTE: Oversoul

[Jake from State Farm]

Your whole push against Flubber didn't sit right with me.

Why didn't you take issue with RC sheeping Matt?

[Oversoul]

1) You said the wagon was "easy" and you didn't like my push / didn't like me prior to the pronoun issue. That directly contradicts with you being onboard with the wagon and being willing to jump onto it.
2) You certainly hit some "threshold", or so you say, where you were uncertain enough not to point out I had a misunderstanding. That directly contradicts with you thinking it was so obvious that it makes me scummy that I had the misunderstanding

1. Fair I probably shouldn't have categorized it like that.
2. I mean I thought it was obvious that there was some miscommunication occurring surrounding that post, but I wanted you two to figure it out for yourselves. You went after Flubber so aggressively that it seemed odd that you missed the post he was referring to, almost like you just chose to isolate him and then try to make a case on what you saw.

[MattP]

Actually, I'm glad I just looked back:

I mean sure. Flubber is lurking/coasting/not giving any content. Would I cry at his lynch? No. Would I support it if I had to? Sure.
I find it odd that Flubber is the first player you go after. I would think you would go after someone who is tougher to lynch (although Flubber seems to be difficult to corral interest around).

Depending on town power, this might be 10:4, but I think 10:3

You began saying that you wouldn't cry over a Flubber lynch and would support it if you had to, and that your qualm is that it's just an easy lynch

RC is doing nothing with my vote.
I may join you soo Matt

Then you say that your vote on RC is doing nothing so you cater to joining on the easy lynch (which is hilarious, because basically that means RC wagon was haaaarrrd so you'll switch to the wagon you called easy, so you're a hypocrite at best)

I would actually love to know why YOU think I'm scum OS

Flubber push was bad bad bad. Like I said earlier, I would expect you to not go after a weak player like that and misunderstand an obvious post. It looks like you want to scum read Flubber, but don't actually believe it yourself because you know Flubber isn't scum.

Your whole push against Flubber didn't sit right with me.

Then you say my push was bad? So what did you see in my push that made you cater to a Flubber vote in the first place?

[RadiantCowbells]

Can we please, please not do Oversoul today?

[Oversoul]

Your whole push against Flubber didn't sit right with me.

Why didn't you take issue with RC sheeping Matt?

Wagons are good. I honestly didn't even notice that. I'm kinda in my own world in this game.

[Elyse]

Can we please, please not do Oversoul today?

What do you think about his contradictions?

[RadiantCowbells]

I think scum sees Oversoul as a perfect mislynch opportunity.

[Jake from State Farm]

Can we please, please not do Oversoul today?

Have you ever heard of distancing?

It can be an effective strategy.

[Jake from State Farm]

Your whole push against Flubber didn't sit right with me.

Why didn't you take issue with RC sheeping Matt?

Wagons are good. I honestly didn't even notice that. I'm kinda in my own world in this game.

[RadiantCowbells]

Oversoul is doing stuff that justifies scum wagoning him but I don't think he's scum.

[RadiantCowbells]

Everyone in my scumpool has expressed interest in lynching Oversoul.

That's good enough for me. I'm not doing it.

[MattP]

1) You said the wagon was "easy" and you didn't like my push / didn't like me prior to the pronoun issue. That directly contradicts with you being onboard with the wagon and being willing to jump onto it.
2) You certainly hit some "threshold", or so you say, where you were uncertain enough not to point out I had a misunderstanding. That directly contradicts with you thinking it was so obvious that it makes me scummy that I had the misunderstanding

1. Fair I probably shouldn't have categorized it like that.
2. I mean I thought it was obvious that there was some miscommunication occurring surrounding that post, but I wanted you two to figure it out for yourselves. You went after Flubber so aggressively that it seemed odd that you missed the post he was referring to, almost like you just chose to isolate him and then try to make a case on what you saw.

1. I don't get what that even means. Ok? So what should you have categorized it as?
2. Again again again, this doesn't make the contradiction go away. You said, QUOTE

I would have spoken up earlier

but

I didn't want to answer

for Flubber

since I wasn't 100%.

You didn't say, "I didn't want to answer for Flubber because I didn't want to get in the way"

Now you're just changing your story

[RadiantCowbells]

Can we fucking not?

[Jake from State Farm]

Everyone in my scumpool has expressed interest in lynching Oversoul.

That's good enough for me. I'm not doing it.

Good thing nobody asked you

[MattP]

Can we fucking not?

Why are you white knighting OS? Let him be a big boy and talk himself out of his hole. Like, why are you cutting of a very important discussion?

My town read of you is gone, congrats

[RadiantCowbells]

Then fucking lynch me and get me out of this trashcan game jesus.

[MattP]

"Everybody in my scumpool has expressed interest in lynching OS

Therefore, can we all please look the other way and not press him about his contradictions?"

[Jake from State Farm]

Then fucking lynch me and get me out of this trashcan game jesus.

I'm OK with that since I wasn't going to be voting oversoul anyway

[MattP]

Then fucking lynch me and get me out of this trashcan game jesus.

I'm doing what I think is the best use of my time. If the best use of my time is to ever push for your lynch, I will. Right now I'm talking with OS.

[RadiantCowbells]

Jake you really don't deserve this win at all.

town this game is literally so retarded I feel like I'm playing town of salem.

[MattP]

Jake you really don't deserve this win at all.

town this game is literally so retarded I feel like I'm playing town of salem.

Don't use the r-word in that manner. Thank you!

[Oversoul]

You began saying that you wouldn't cry over a Flubber lynch and would support it if you had to, and that your qualm is that it's just an easy lynch

Yes... in a deadline lynch. Any lynch is better than no lynch.
A lynch on a VI/Lurker is still going to be better than no information at all.

Then you say that your vote on RC is doing nothing so you cater to joining on the easy lynch (which is hilarious, because basically that means RC wagon was haaaarrrd so you'll switch to the wagon you called easy, so you're a hypocrite at best)

RC wagon? I am confused. I was talking about the wagon that RC was trying to start on EPM.

Then you say my push was bad? So what did you see in my push that made you cater to a Flubber vote in the first place?

The fact that MattP was pushing it and I consider you a really good player? And that Flubber doesn't really look like he will contribute to the game but discussion for another time I guess, lol.
Maybe I'm just holding you to higher standards back when we actively played. pastMatt I don't think would make this type of case/push Flubber like this. After I had seen things start to develop the wagon just felt bad on a visceral level and I determined it had to do with you pushing it for not the best reasons.

pedit: too many posts

ffs just let me post

[RadiantCowbells]

VOTE: MattP

[Oversoul]

So, I think Elyse has the worst vote of the last 5 votes.

What is everyone's read on her?

Hmmm.

Tempted by the Matt vote...