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Post Post #25 (ISO) » Wed May 20, 2015 8:36 am

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In post 23, FakeGod wrote:
In post 22, EspeciallyTheLies wrote:organic chemistry.
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both games were decisively carried by town power roles

they don't really show whether spamming is good or bad

they show that it was ANNOYING. and that it killed motivation.

if you were reading the game in real time it would have been clear. reading it after the fact doesn't give a good impression unless you are really analyzing the time stamps of each post.

after a D1 that becomes 100+ pages because one or two people want to post bullshit and nonsense over 2 or 3 times as many posts as anyone else, it's more often that people get burnt out trying to keep up with those one or two people. other voices get drowned out. people get lazy and don't want to go back and reread. things get missed because there just isn't enough time or energy to review things in depth.

it's absolutely a scum tactic and it works. and the townies who do it need to, seriously, fucking. shut. up. and let others contribute.

oh yeah. Xmen is another one. You don't think [redacted]'s complete lack of consideration for the input of others on D1 had anything to do with the demotivation that occurred thereafter?

p-edit: hell yeah it does. how many subtleties do you think you can pick up having to read 20 pages versus having to read 120 pages?

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Post Post #26 (ISO) » Wed May 20, 2015 8:40 am

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I've read both games in real time, ETL.

EDIT: FWIW, I think spammers are annoying, too. I just think those two games don't demonstrate your point effectively.
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Post Post #27 (ISO) » Wed May 20, 2015 8:55 am

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In post 23, FakeGod wrote:
In post 22, EspeciallyTheLies wrote:organic chemistry.
dark age of the law.

both games were decisively carried by town power roles

they don't really show whether spamming is good or bad


if a game is primarly carried by speshuls and not in thread play I think that kind of points that spammng MIGHT be bad for town, hhhhmm?

what are vts supposed to do, sit around and twiddle their thumbs?

also plants vs zombies where scum!notty said that he used spamming as a scum tactic in order to specifically induce town apathy. scum do it cos it
works.


it makes the game harder for the pple who are not married to their computer and have to ketchup to 20 pages and it makes it harder for any replacement to replace in.

and I am not talking about super active games here I am talking about the game being dominated through sheer mass of posts by 1 or 2 pple.
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Post Post #28 (ISO) » Wed May 20, 2015 8:57 am

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now by "dominated through sheer mass of posts by 1 or 2 pple" what are we really talking about?
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Post Post #29 (ISO) » Wed May 20, 2015 9:16 am

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In post 18, EspeciallyTheLies wrote:at least you can replace those fuckers.


Actually you can't, if they're making just enough posts to stay within the prod range and even missing one or two, you can't replace them.

But that's a (rehash of) another discussion of lurkers, and this is a thread about the opposite problem.

Basically, as in almost all things, it's best to achieve a happy medium, but there will always be outliers on either end of the spectrum who are annoying to play with because they're posting either too much or too little. With "too much" and "too little" being defined by you, the reader.

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Post Post #30 (ISO) » Wed May 20, 2015 9:36 am

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(yay carlin!)

I don't have a problem with people who post only once or twice a day. I don't have a problem with people who respond to (almost) everything, as long as what they are posting isn't fluffy bullshit.

Then there are people, who I will not name, that just go on and on and on with bullshit, to the point of splitting up sentences or thoughts into multiple posts, within a minute or two. It's just inconsiderate and unnecessary.
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Post Post #31 (ISO) » Wed May 20, 2015 9:55 am

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Ok so what's the difference between conscious posting stream or straight up spamposting
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Post Post #32 (ISO) » Wed May 20, 2015 9:56 am

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I mean I'm the type who posts whenever I think of something and unfortunately I don't have the ability to think of those in quick succession to write them all in a single post. I'm gonna always forget something and post it like this.
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Post Post #33 (ISO) » Wed May 20, 2015 9:57 am

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Does me doing this counts as a spamposting and derails the whole thread?
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Post Post #34 (ISO) » Wed May 20, 2015 9:59 am

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it is pretty spammy in this case because you really could just edit your posts
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Post Post #35 (ISO) » Wed May 20, 2015 10:01 am

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You can't edit your posts in a game.
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Post Post #36 (ISO) » Wed May 20, 2015 10:03 am

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i think the struggle here is when do you draw the line between posting and spamming
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Post Post #37 (ISO) » Wed May 20, 2015 10:09 am

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I've done that up to 2 pages (48~50 posts) before. I don't think anyone ever complained about it.
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Post Post #38 (ISO) » Wed May 20, 2015 11:29 am

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In post 37, GuyInFreezer wrote:I've done that up to 2 pages (48~50 posts) before. I don't think anyone ever complained about it.


It really depends on what actual content is in your post really and how easy you are to follow.
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Post Post #39 (ISO) » Wed May 20, 2015 2:30 pm

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In post 5, notscience wrote:
In post 2, Ankamius wrote:But I like spamposting

You were meant to be an '11, bro.
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Post Post #40 (ISO) » Wed May 20, 2015 4:34 pm

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I agree with this 100% completely.
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In post 40, Oversoul wrote:I agree with this 100% completely.

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Post Post #42 (ISO) » Wed May 20, 2015 5:16 pm

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My favorite part about being a spamposter is that I never seem to get very many posts regardless. I think I reached third once?
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I was in the top 3 almost every game. Usually number 1.

This is accounting up until removal via death or lynch.
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Post Post #44 (ISO) » Wed May 20, 2015 6:01 pm

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p. sure I'm in the top of my games too.

But it ain't spam in my case. It's just responding to -- almost everything.
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Post Post #45 (ISO) » Wed May 20, 2015 7:11 pm

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I like Spam but I haven't branched out to any of the variants. Which do you recommend?
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Post Post #46 (ISO) » Wed May 20, 2015 11:00 pm

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lol

yah I agree spamposting =/= fun
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Post Post #47 (ISO) » Wed May 20, 2015 11:01 pm

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In post 45, Axxle wrote:

I like Spam but I haven't branched out to any of the variants. Which do you recommend?

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Post Post #48 (ISO) » Thu May 21, 2015 12:52 am

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In post 41, Majiffy wrote:
In post 40, Oversoul wrote:I agree with this 100% completely.

You weren't meant to be an '11, bro.


Yeah well I am part of the issue.
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Post Post #49 (ISO) » Thu May 21, 2015 2:22 am

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In post 45, Axxle wrote:

I like Spam but I haven't branched out to any of the variants. Which do you recommend?

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