NY 184: a help (done)

[MattP]

Why is it so hard for people to follow site rules

Like the fact it even happened earlier this game is bad

[Kinetic]

Listen. I have no clue what is going on. Either way, stop squabbling about it here.

[RadiantCowbells]

I sort of see what Jake is trying to say but completely disagree about it.

No way jose that there's a problem with Oversoul last page.

[RadiantCowbells]

You know this is fucking pissing me off because this is _EXACTLY_ what happened in the Jake!Scum game that I modded.

He created fights between people, got into fights that caused people to reports.

And here's word for word

but I am having fun here, Slandaar. I think we should be blood brothers. one of us dies today and the other tomorrow and a town flip means the other dies tomorrow. Sound good?

vote: slandaar

Familiar?

Also, he clearly lied about discussing it with the moderator as Oversoul pointed out, which suggests to me he isn't actually upset about the violation, but instead he's using it to disrupt town.

As is his established scum meta.

Like if he was town and I was pushing him like this he'd have died ages ago.

[RadiantCowbells]

At the very least, can we commit to the 1v1 he challenged?

His modus operandi is to throw it out to try to get towncred for being "anti-town".

Commit to it. Lynch one of us and lynch the other tomorrow.

Even if I get lynched it's a 1 for 1 trade and I'll take it.

Pretty much all of the other wagons are complete crap anyway.

[RadiantCowbells]

Like we can do much better than lynchbait like Oversoul or Flubber.

[RadiantCowbells]

In fact.

VOTE: RadiantCowbells

Not a joke, hammer this.

My role is literally strictly less valuable than a Vanilla Townie.

Better than putting up a bunch of people to have to claim.

[RadiantCowbells]

There's no way we're getting a better lynch today.

Just do it, get my flip, follow my reads on Jake/EPM for easiest win of your lives.

[VysePresident]

Let's not do this.

I'm one step shy of agreeing with you, if you add in Elyse to that list. :/

[RadiantCowbells]

It's 4 days to go with 2 votes max on other wagons and it'll be way too easy for scum to knock out the smart players and have me as an easy lynch somewhere down the line.

I agree Elyse is probably scum this game.

Just vote me.

[RadiantCowbells]

This is the only way I can see where town gets anything from D1.

[VysePresident]

Eh, I've pushed wagons in at the last minute before. (Like, almost a majority of my games. :/ ) It's a pain, but this isn't nearly as hard as some others. I'm inclined to agree with Matt that you're getting pushed more for crappy presentation than scuminess.

The only thing that really bothers me about you at this point is that you're more blind than I'd care for, but it's following a progression I'm not sure you could fake. :$ (If you are, I both hate & admire you, in the friendliest possible way. )

I'll be on tomorrow, after I've had a chance to get my thoughts in order again. Let's not hammer this, please.

[VysePresident]

This is the only way I can see where town gets anything from D1.

...I can't say for sure how everyone sees you, but I've not been questioning your reads because of your alignment, so much as your alignment because of your judgment. If you get lynched, and there's nobody else pushing your reads, there's a very high chance they'll get brushed off as crappy play.

I guess I'm just saying it'd help if you'd communicate more thoughtfully. At least, it's worked for me, usually.

[VysePresident]

Just my 0.2, of course.

[RadiantCowbells]

...I can't say for sure how everyone sees you, but I've not been questioning your reads because of your alignment, so much as your alignment because of your judgment. If you get lynched, and there's nobody else pushing your reads, there's a very high chance they'll get brushed off as crappy play.

I guess I'm just saying it'd help if you'd communicate more thoughtfully. At least, it's worked for me, usually.

Go read, oh, any of my games.

[Jake from State Farm]

You know this is fucking pissing me off because this is _EXACTLY_ what happened in the Jake!Scum game that I modded.

He created fights between people, got into fights that caused people to reports.

And here's word for word

but I am having fun here, Slandaar. I think we should be blood brothers. one of us dies today and the other tomorrow and a town flip means the other dies tomorrow. Sound good?

vote: slandaar

Familiar?

Also, he clearly lied about discussing it with the moderator as Oversoul pointed out, which suggests to me he isn't actually upset about the violation, but instead he's using it to disrupt town.

As is his established scum meta.

Like if he was town and I was pushing him like this he'd have died ages ago.

What you are keeping from everybody is that

1. I was emulating my town meta in that game, I can probably link 2 or 3 other games where I did the same thing all as town, that's why I did it that game

2. Slandaar and I already had history together which is why I chose to fight with him.

[Jake from State Farm]

Also, he clearly lied about discussing it with the moderator as Oversoul pointed out, which suggests to me he isn't actually upset about the violation, but instead he's using it to disrupt town.

Clearly I'm lying...

[Jake from State Farm]

As is his established scum meta.

See you know jack about my meta. My town meta is more like this, my scum meta isn't.

[Oversoul]

Radiant, your role is negative utility?
Hmm

[Oversoul]

Jake, do you think information was compromised, yes or no? I will replace out if you do (despite me saying nothing actually compromising). But I will hold you to this at end game.

[MattP]

Radiant, your role is negative utility?
Hmm

us not lynching OS is psychotic

Like look at posts like this

[Jake from State Farm]

No nothing was compromised, but that's not the point. I'm a huge proponent of following the rules and for you to take a simple mistake and twist it into somehow implying I'm scum is despicable and shows you have no sort of integrity of the game.

[Oversoul]

Radiant, your role is negative utility?
Hmm

us not lynching OS is psychotic

Like look at posts like this

My role is also negative utility.

[Oversoul]

No nothing was compromised, but that's not the point. I'm a huge proponent of following the rules and for you to take a simple mistake and twist it into somehow implying I'm scum is despicable and shows you have no sort of integrity of the game.

All will make sense with my flip.

[Jake from State Farm]

Yeah, scum flip explains everything. Do whatever it takes to lynch a townie, even break the rules. Despicable