NY 184: a help (done)

[Jake from State Farm]

My role isn't a negative utility. Idk what that even means but wheeee

[Oversoul]

Not scum. IF anything my rashness and alleged rule breaking would only prove that I am town but you're too far in denial land to see that.

[Oversoul]

Negative utility is that it's existence is a net loss. Like a miller, or a role that is compulsive, or in general disrupts the night game.

[Jake from State Farm]

Yeah im in denial land cause there's no reason why a townie would deliberately break the rules like that, especially given the reasoning you used is completely flawed.

You can soft claim, hard claim, or even full claim and idgaf, I don't believe for a second you are town, let alone a PR.

[Oversoul]

This is because you play in black and white and don't see the world for the grey that it actually is.

[Jake from State Farm]

Negative utility is that it's existence is a net loss. Like a miller, or a role that is compulsive, or in general disrupts the night game.

Thanks. Yeah my role isn't one but some would say my play can be.

On that note I want to thank RC, you helped me find my old playstyle that I had been trying to find and couldn't. My games this year have sucked and I've been bored and disinterested, until this game. I'm actually having fun again. Thanks for being obvscum on page 1

[Jake from State Farm]

This is because you play in black and white and don't see the world for the grey that it actually is.

Not the first I've heard that about me actually

[Oversoul]

Then maybe there is some truth to it

[Jake from State Farm]

Like I said earlier, town has no reason to be mad at the mod for posting that role pm if its in the game. It doesn't hurt town and only gives town a marginal bit of information. Without it they wouldn't know what kind of investigative role was in the game, but they probably assume their was one as most games do.

I also said it makes no sense for even the gunsmith to be mad cause it doesn't let scum know who has the role.

Your reaction wasn't town as regardless of your role, that info being posted has no bearing to the game.

I've seen scum fake outrage over things like that before, I'm pretty sure I've faked outrage before. That's what it felt like you were doing as like explained, you as town should have no reason to react like you did. Black/white/gray/whatever, your reaction made no sense to me

[Kinetic]

Jake: are you flagrantly trying to use out of game information, going so far as to screenshot a PM from a list mod, and posting it in this thread? Because I'm not exactly sure what you are accusing oversoul of, but the last two pages where you have had a tantrum over it has been extremely disruptive at best. Not to mention, I'm pretty certain you've broken several site rules.

[Jake from State Farm]

I disagree that I have broken any rules but feel free to report me and let the mod decide. If me posting a pic was somehow against rules then I will take the hit. I don't think it is though.

[MattP]

Ugh

[Lostaway]

In fact.

VOTE: RadiantCowbells

Not a joke, hammer this.

My role is literally strictly less valuable than a Vanilla Townie.

Better than putting up a bunch of people to have to claim.

Yes, let's vote RC. This is getting ridiculous.

In case anyone's forgotten the gross inconsistencies in RC's game, let's go back to the beginning -- and I know we all want to go back there, in this game, sorry about this -- but after leaning hard and with absolute conviction against Jake, RC picks up on MattP's first read and flip-flops immediately:

MattP's points are very solid.

Further, scum calling 1v1s involving their scumpartners TvT is very common. And look at JFSF's response.

1. I am
2. Yes I actually did.

It's just... off. I feel like Bulge could have been coaching his partner there.

And if we are both town, calling it TvT now could be a grab for towncred.

I don't like it, and I really don't like how it reflects on JFSF either.

VOTE: The Bulge

But it's not just inconsistency.

RC is constantly resorting to emotional manipulation, either through use of language or self-flagellation, in what I see as an attempt to justify his grotesque swings as well as eliciting some measure of sympathy for the woobie.

How about you fuck off and go lose your games somewhere else.

People like you are the kind who lose games then cry after game "oh I knew who the scum were" but don't push their reads at all.

Like there's Pisskop and Elyse being useful and a huge whack of town being fucking worthless and I don't even know if Elyse is town or not because she's been town MVP as scum before.

This game is a catastrophe of worthless players.

Did Grimmjow really win a best town performance?

This town is mentally impaired.

Just lynch me, I've had it with this game.

Yes, just lynch him. Please.

In the last few days he's tried to build a wagon on EPM, without any success, so he goes back to that Day One target, The Bulge. Because the Bulge finally has the temerity to participate, after being gone for a while?

Yeah well EPM is lurking as fuck all game and now especially with pressure.

Why are more people not voting this?

Anyone noticed that EPM's really not going anywhere despite no one really townreading the slot, and Oversoul keeps looking for excuses to jump off it?

Bulge has been absentee for days.

So you just admitted that you were reading the thread, but not posting while you lurked away pressure.

VOTE: The Bulge

At this point in the game, I think going after lurkingh-ish players is too easy.

If there's one thing I agree with RC on, it's that this game is a slog, not much fun to read through. There's some really immature social interactions, and RC is one of the biggest instigators of them. (Sorry Jake and Oversoul, but your recent argument doesn't help anything.) It makes sense that not a lot of people are chiming in regularly, regardless of alignment. It's deeply unpleasant.

So with that in mind...

Then fucking lynch me and get me out of this trashcan game jesus.

VOTE: MattP

I'm done with this game.

I'll hammer Jake or EPM if they get voted up. Prod dodging until that happens.

There's no way we're getting a better lynch today.

It's 4 days to go with 2 votes max on other wagons and it'll be way too easy for scum to knock out the smart players and have me as an easy lynch somewhere down the line.

I agree Elyse is probably scum this game.

Just vote me.

Please, let's put RC out of his misery, and ours.

(And seriously, a vote for Matt?!?!)

[BROseidon]

Ugh

I'm starting to get disturbed by how frequently I read your posts and feel the same way.

[BROseidon]

And we aren't lynching RC because he's town.

[Jake from State Farm]

And we aren't lynching RC because he's town.

Explain

[MattP]

I'm not voting RC but I AM never joining a game he's in again and will make sure mods know about his behavior in this game.

[Bicephalous Bob]

ok I'm locking this until further notice

[Bicephalous Bob]

The discussion of the discussion of ongoing games inevitably steers the game back to the discussion of ongoing games. As such, the game will stay locked until the skittles are clear on the Jake/OS situation.

I considered forbidding in-thread meta-ongoing game discussion, but this seems a better solution for now.

[Bicephalous Bob]

OS has been replaced for referring to an ongoing game. Jake has been replaced for attempting to bring outside influences into the game.

The deadline has been extended by 28 hours.

Official Vote Count

RadiantCowbells

(6): Jake from State Farm, Grimmjow, evilpacman18, Lostaway, The Bulge, RadiantCowbells

The Bulge

(2): Flubbernugget, pisskop

Jake from State Farm

(2): Kinetic, Oversoul

Oversoul

(2): MattP, Elyse

Elyse

(1): VysePresident

Flubbernugget

(1): BROseidon

Not Voting

(0):

None.

With 14 alive, it takes 8 to lynch.

Deadline

: (expired on 2015-05-26 20:19:05)

[Flubbernugget]

Bulge/OS/RC(??)/Grimm/Piss(??) scumteam

Too many scum, try again

Why are you implying I should have 100% confidence in my reads right now

[Flubbernugget]

Also I think if nobody said anything about Kinetic being a really good player he'd be under a lot more pressure rn

[MattP]

Also I think if nobody said anything about Kinetic being a really good player he'd be under a lot more pressure rn

He hasn't been playing well so far this game. I've only been impressed by a single one of his posts much earlier on.

[MattP]

@Bob

Can the deadline be stalled until 2 replacements are found? Those two spots are kind of integral to discussion

[Bicephalous Bob]

Yes.