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Post Post #175 (ISO) » Thu May 21, 2015 9:26 am

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I guess I should fall off it now that I'm talking about it.

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Post Post #176 (ISO) » Thu May 21, 2015 9:27 am

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You're weak senator
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Post Post #177 (ISO) » Thu May 21, 2015 9:28 am

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I haven't yet read pages 3-6, gimme a few minutes.

In post 169, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 150, Sinsun1 wrote:But now I must wonder, is it good or bad for town that we guessed it. For all we know,
he's 3rd party
and we just unlocked his ability to kill and be immune at night time.


Why are you assuming third party?


This is a great post, though. Could see myself voting for Sinsun shortly.
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Post Post #178 (ISO) » Thu May 21, 2015 9:30 am

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And for those asking I'm a miller ... This claim is beyond anything I would ever claim at this time of the day as scum so I hope you all can realize my scum game is better than that. I can link multiple games I've carried on teamliquid as scum
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Post Post #179 (ISO) » Thu May 21, 2015 9:31 am

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Thats a PL sir.
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Post Post #180 (ISO) » Thu May 21, 2015 9:31 am

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I know.
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Post Post #181 (ISO) » Thu May 21, 2015 9:32 am

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fake claiming Miller is p common, what makes you incapable of doing it?
Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.

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Post Post #182 (ISO) » Thu May 21, 2015 9:33 am

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But it's retarded to pl it and it indicates the presence of gf and dt
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Post Post #183 (ISO) » Thu May 21, 2015 9:34 am

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I wouldn't ever claim miller as scum as it is too risky of a gambit I'm a no scum left behind night killing leader type
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Post Post #184 (ISO) » Thu May 21, 2015 9:37 am

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In post 182, Saint wrote:But it's retarded to pl it and it indicates the presence of gf and dt


I'm inclined to believe your claim though I don't know off the top of my head what a miller is. To make this claim this early in the game with little to no tangible pressure indicates you are either doing some really tricky business or you are doing it for the benefit of town and expect to be NKed early.
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Post Post #185 (ISO) » Thu May 21, 2015 9:40 am

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Benefit of the town as I am guilty to checks and this also helps show doc to look for cop
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Post Post #186 (ISO) » Thu May 21, 2015 9:44 am

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Really want to know what PB thinks of my play at this point.
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Post Post #187 (ISO) » Thu May 21, 2015 9:47 am

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Due to the number of players new to mafiascum in this game, I am advising that there is a mafiascum wikipedia which has a plethora of helpful articles, including role explanation and strategy.

Here is the link for the role page, which has a detailed explanation of pretty much every role available. Be advised that in Large Theme games the mod is allowed to create their own roles seperate from the wikipedia.:

http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?tit ... gory:Roles
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Post Post #188 (ISO) » Thu May 21, 2015 9:49 am

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In post 109, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 26, ChannelDelibird wrote:UNVOTE: Jamierus
VOTE: Narninian


This strikes me as a Role fish vote, correct me if I am wrong.


You're wrong.

1) Why did you vote Narninian after me if you thought this?
2) Why did you unvote Narninian here?
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Post Post #189 (ISO) » Thu May 21, 2015 9:52 am

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Post Post #190 (ISO) » Thu May 21, 2015 9:53 am

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In post 188, ChannelDelibird wrote:
In post 109, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 26, ChannelDelibird wrote:UNVOTE: Jamierus
VOTE: Narninian


This strikes me as a Role fish vote, correct me if I am wrong.


You're wrong.

1) Why did you vote Narninian after me if you thought this?
2) Why did you unvote Narninian here?


It was a failsafe vote in the attempt to keep others from voting for him while putting added pressure on him to produce info. He saw through my vote and it was now doing nothing so I unvoted.
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Post Post #191 (ISO) » Thu May 21, 2015 9:56 am

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I don't mind being lynched btw
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Post Post #192 (ISO) » Thu May 21, 2015 9:58 am

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In post 190, LicketyQuickety wrote:It was a failsafe vote in the attempt to keep others from voting for him while putting added pressure on him to produce info. He saw through my vote and it was now doing nothing so I unvoted.


Did you genuinely believe that your voting for someone, putting him at a positively moments-from-doom lynch-minus-nine, would dissuade others from voting for that person?

Did you find me suspicious for doing something that looked to you like I was rolefishing? Rolefishing is something that scum like to do, so they know who to kill.
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Post Post #193 (ISO) » Thu May 21, 2015 10:00 am

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Lickety could be town. Not enough to unvote him. But he could be.


So wait, is Saint claiming he'll be guilty when investigated? Understandable. I don't like his "I would never fake it". I think it's suspicious at the least.
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Post Post #194 (ISO) » Thu May 21, 2015 10:01 am

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Klingoncelt needs to have some opinions about things that aren't Ludicrous's flavour, pronto.
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Post Post #195 (ISO) » Thu May 21, 2015 10:03 am

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In post 192, ChannelDelibird wrote:
In post 190, LicketyQuickety wrote:It was a failsafe vote in the attempt to keep others from voting for him while putting added pressure on him to produce info. He saw through my vote and it was now doing nothing so I unvoted.


Did you genuinely believe that your voting for someone, putting him at a positively moments-from-doom lynch-minus-nine, would dissuade others from voting for that person?

Did you find me suspicious for doing something that looked to you like I was rolefishing? Rolefishing is something that scum like to do, so they know who to kill.


That early in a game this big? yes.

I brought up a possibility that was not previously considered and it gave people the idea to keep their mind open to possibilities.

VOTE: Saint In before major bandwagon.
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Post Post #196 (ISO) » Thu May 21, 2015 10:09 am

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In post 195, LicketyQuickety wrote:That early in a game this big? yes.


Lynch-9 is not a point at which anyone on this site is going to be scared of putting down another vote on someone. In fact, quite the opposite. Momentum is helpful early on. But mostly people just aren't going to think 'gosh, Lickety voted Narninian, now I'd better not, just to be safe'. So if your Saint vote right now is intended to stop a bandwagon forming on him, now would be a good time to realise that you're not Gandalf standing tall against the balrog of public opinion, you're just a dude who's using his vote in the opposite of how it ought to be used.

I brought up a possibility that was not previously considered and it gave people the idea to keep their mind open to possibilities.


You haven't actually answered the question. Did you think it was suspicious? Did the possibility of me rolefishing occur to you at the time of your vote on Narninian or was it something you wondered when rereading?

What do you think of me right now?
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Post Post #197 (ISO) » Thu May 21, 2015 10:24 am

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This guy is town. He is the type of player that cares about himself surviving more than winning. He is the type that wouldn't have claimed a negative role d1 because he wouldn't care if he hurt the towns chances. However I believe I can teach him . I used to play exactly like he does now back in 2009.
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Post Post #198 (ISO) » Thu May 21, 2015 10:30 am

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In post 197, Saint wrote:This guy is town. He is the type of player that cares about himself surviving more than winning. He is the type that wouldn't have claimed a negative role d1 because he wouldn't care if he hurt the towns chances. However I believe I can teach him . I used to play exactly like he does now back in 2009.


I'm not saying he's scum. I'm just trying to get a picture of what he's thinking so that I can work from it, get a read from it, then pretty much ignore him for the foreseeable future so that other people don't get suffocated out of the thread.
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Post Post #199 (ISO) » Thu May 21, 2015 10:32 am

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In post 196, ChannelDelibird wrote:
In post 195, LicketyQuickety wrote:That early in a game this big? yes.


Lynch-9 is not a point at which anyone on this site is going to be scared of putting down another vote on someone. In fact, quite the opposite. Momentum is helpful early on. But mostly people just aren't going to think 'gosh, Lickety voted Narninian, now I'd better not, just to be safe'. So if your Saint vote right now is intended to stop a bandwagon forming on him, now would be a good time to realise that you're not Gandalf standing tall against the balrog of public opinion, you're just a dude who's using his vote in the opposite of how it ought to be used.

I brought up a possibility that was not previously considered and it gave people the idea to keep their mind open to possibilities.


You haven't actually answered the question. Did you think it was suspicious? Did the possibility of me rolefishing occur to you at the time of your vote on Narninian or was it something you wondered when rereading?

What do you think of me right now?


It was very early in the stage past RVS you have to admit. I don't think I have that much power with my vote on someone; I am only one person. How do you know my current vote is to keep people from voting that person? That is your claim at least. My vote serves multiple purposes which I will not say what all of them are at this time because then it would not serve its purpose in the way intended.

I have absolutely no read on you art this time. It was an after thought and the thought occurred to me of the possibility when I reread the thread. That's the answer you want right?
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