13p Normal [TM2015]

[sthar8]

I would absolutely have no-killed, except that I'm pretty sure that Mala's claim was intended to out the roleblocker and succeeded. Why would they need to out him twice? What made it worth putting the game on the MYLO track?

idk I'm rereading and rethinking.

[Nexus]

Votecount 5.1:

Boonskiies (1)-

Egg

Trojan Horse (1)-

Boonskiies

Not voting (4)-

DeltaWave, sthar8, Trojan Horse, Pieguyn

With 6 alive it takes 4 to lynch. Deadline is at 6pm GMT on Thursday 28th May 2015 (expired on 2015-05-28 13:00:00)

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[Boonskiies]

Unvote

Idfk. Even I like Pie's case. I'm a scumfuck when I'm VT. [insert some kind of pointless self-meta here.]

[DeltaWave]

Boon, are you just acting randomly at this point?

[Trojan Horse]

I would absolutely have no-killed, except that I'm pretty sure that

Mala's claim was intended to out the roleblocker and succeeded.

Why would they need to out him twice? What made it worth putting the game on the MYLO track?

Huh? Mala's claim didn't out the roleblocker, unless there's something I missed...

[Egg]

I would absolutely have no-killed, except that I'm pretty sure that

Mala's claim was intended to out the roleblocker and succeeded.

Why would they need to out him twice? What made it worth putting the game on the MYLO track?

Huh? Mala's claim didn't out the roleblocker, unless there's something I missed...

But the no kill did...

[sthar8]

STD unvoted immediately and asked how she knew she was roleblocked and not protected.

[sthar8]

Here, lemme find it.

[sthar8]

This series of posts was functionally a claim.

unvote

How do you know you were RB'd and your target wasn't protected?

Personally I think we should verify the vig claim rather than lynch it. I do have doubts but it's easy enough to check.

If there's a roleblocker involved, it's a town RB; there was no reason for scum to RB mala.

Pie, that is a disappointing course of action. It seems to me that outing a power role if it exists D2 seems like a bad idea when it is not necessary that we do so. It would neither confirm nor deny Mala's guilt, while her vigging would.

Especially strongarming a PR to claim, I don't see the point of that. I don't think everyone is of the opinion the town RB should claim, so everyone acknowledging your post doesn't preclude a town RB from being in the game.

[pieguyn]

I'm trying to figure out why scum would leave STD alive if they had correctly figured out he was the RB on D2. given jason was a bogyguard and thus would (or rather, *should*) protect STD, I really do not think it would be worth it to no kill in that situation as opposed to shooting STD immediately - in other scenarios, it'd be worth it, but not when it'd get protected, I don't think. I'm not sure about this, though.

[pieguyn]

o, mastin wanted me to inform everyone that if she was in this position, she'd be hipgunning for TH with no logical reason behind it. she also wanted to make it explicitly clear this was entirely gut and should probably be ignored

in case it's not obvious, I disagree with this

[pieguyn]

sthar, I can trust you, right? >.>

[Trojan Horse]

I'm trying to figure out why scum would leave STD alive if they had correctly figured out he was the RB on D2. given jason was a bogyguard and thus would (or rather, *should*) protect STD, I really do not think it would be worth it to no kill in that situation as opposed to shooting STD immediately - in other scenarios, it'd be worth it, but not when it'd get protected, I don't think. I'm not sure about this, though.

You're right. Scum would've shot STD if they had known he was the roleblocker. So obviously, they didn't know.

Sthar, you're clearly a more perceptive player than I am. None of those posts you quoted made me think that STD was a roleblocker. I guess scum didn't figure it out, either.

(Then again, maybe sthar is scum, and this is just a subliminal attempt to make us think otherwise. "I knew STD was a roleblocker. Scum didn't. So I'm not scum." )

[Boonskiies]

Boon, are you just acting randomly at this point?

Yeah, I have absolutely no clue. I wouldn't call it random, I'd call it more confused.

[Boonskiies]

I'm trying to figure out why scum would leave STD alive if they had correctly figured out he was the RB on D2. given jason was a bogyguard and thus would (or rather, *should*) protect STD, I really do not think it would be worth it to no kill in that situation as opposed to shooting STD immediately - in other scenarios, it'd be worth it, but not when it'd get protected, I don't think. I'm not sure about this, though.

They needed STD alive for the mislynch on Bins to work so easily.

[Boonskiies]

if boon is town ty for being the only person who truly understands me

[Boonskiies]

Votecount 3.2:

Bins (6-LYNCH)-

Trojan Horse, Save The Dragons, pieguyn, SleepyKrew, jasonT1981, Egg

Deltawave (1)-

Boonskiies

Not voting (3)-

Bins, Deltawave, sthar8,

With 10 alive it take 6 to lynch. Deadline is at 6pm GMT on Tuesday 12th May 2015. (expired on 2015-05-12 13:00:00)

Bins has been lynched. Flip incoming.

Actually, this wagon is probably the most helpful. I feel scum has to be on this wagon. There's one scum left at this point, and for them to gambit the Bins mislynch without even pushing for it seems off. It's trojan or egg.

[Egg]

I'm trying to figure out why scum would leave STD alive if they had correctly figured out he was the RB on D2. given jason was a bogyguard and thus would (or rather, *should*) protect STD, I really do not think it would be worth it to no kill in that situation as opposed to shooting STD immediately - in other scenarios, it'd be worth it, but not when it'd get protected, I don't think. I'm not sure about this, though.

They needed STD alive for the mislynch on Bins to work so easily.

Only if they knew STD would target town...

[pieguyn]

sthar wasn't there the entire day phase, and DW only had 2 posts right at the start and then disappeared the rest of the day phase

so we can't clear anyone based on how the wagon happened

[Boonskiies]

I'm trying to figure out why scum would leave STD alive if they had correctly figured out he was the RB on D2. given jason was a bogyguard and thus would (or rather, *should*) protect STD, I really do not think it would be worth it to no kill in that situation as opposed to shooting STD immediately - in other scenarios, it'd be worth it, but not when it'd get protected, I don't think. I'm not sure about this, though.

They needed STD alive for the mislynch on Bins to work so easily.

Only if they knew STD would target town...

That's why it was a gambit. You didn't. There were 10 people left in that game. Odds are, you weren't going to get checked. It was pretty safe of a gambit.

[Boonskiies]

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sthar wasn't there the entire day phase, and DW only had 2 posts right at the start and then disappeared the rest of the day phase

so we can't clear anyone based on how the wagon happened

I believe it should clear them. I doubt that gambit went so smoothly because scum was somewhere on with it. I think it leans more towards Trojan than egg, though.

[Egg]

If by "safe" you mean "risky as fuck" I agree

[Egg]

Especially for anyone who STD was scum reading. I'd have to go back and check to see who that was though

[Trojan Horse]

Votecount 3.2:

Bins (6-LYNCH)-

Trojan Horse, Save The Dragons, pieguyn, SleepyKrew, jasonT1981, Egg

Deltawave (1)-

Boonskiies

Not voting (3)-

Bins, Deltawave, sthar8,

With 10 alive it take 6 to lynch. Deadline is at 6pm GMT on Tuesday 12th May 2015. (expired on 2015-05-12 13:00:00)

Bins has been lynched. Flip incoming.

Actually, this wagon is probably the most helpful. I feel scum has to be on this wagon. There's one scum left at this point, and for them to gambit the Bins mislynch without even pushing for it seems off. It's trojan or egg.

1. Again, I don't think the no-kill was a gambit to get a mislynch. It was a gambit to get the RBer to claim. The mislynch was just gravy for scum at that point.

2. Who says scum would've pushed for the Bins lynch? As soon as STD claimed his block of Bins, there was roughly a 100% chance that we were going to lynch Bins eventually. No need for scum to apply any extra pressure.

I think the events of night 2 and day 3 are a 100% null tell.

[Boonskiies]

actually, STD was scum reading me. I think this pushes towards Trojan scum. Plus, he speaks as if he knows stuff we don't anyways.