New York 185: Freshwater Frenzy!

[SilverWolf]

Do you guys want more discussion and a chance for Oz to speak again before the day ends?

[dragonspawn]

Well I'm glad I didn't just throw a vote on ozgin Willy nilly. Don't want to hammer yet but I'm willing to hammer at some point. Oddly enough I've been thinking what Varsoon just said, this lynch will be happening at some point.

So I guess ozgin should probably officially claim at this point.

And yes wolf I'd like to see oz respond.

[Varsoon]

I've had literally two shifts of observation on this, Titus. Three, now, I guess. Follow me here, because accusing me seems to be your go-to and following me isn't really working so far but I'm willing to try for the both of us:

Ozgin says he is a Citizen a few times. I actually noticed the second instance of him doing this. I call him out in post 191. It isn't until 196 that you joined in and followed up in hunting Ozgin based on his Citizen 'slip'. So, let the record be straight,

I'm the one who fucking started it, don't act like I was just sheeping you, Titus.

INITIAL THOUGHT

Ozgin has a scum-PM. He checked the OP to see what the rhetoric was for town-claiming, saw it was citizen, and started claiming citizen in the place of 'town'. Not 'Vanilla Town' specifically, just town. 290 explains this point, but apparently [redacted, you can obviously read, there's no point in me calling you out for illiteracy, lol]

REVISED THOUGHT

Ozgin actually is claiming VT and did not know that all of town weren't called Citizens (the VT pm seems to imply that all town may be referred to as 'citizen') Because of this slip, I was reading him as a VT at post 669 and began to think I could use my PR to clear him (because I'm a vanilla-cop or a tracker or something that can do that, look, you'll know when I fucking die, okay?) At this point, I start to think Titus' notice of the 'citizen' thing could be due to herself having a scum-PM with no mention of 'citizen' rather than a town-PR with no mention of 'citizen' given the nature of her push. I drop this when Titus reveals 'Citizen = VT' is the normal rhetoric on her other site. She has yet to forgive me and now is being really crummy over it.

CURRENT THOUGHT

Ozgin's lying about 'citizen' being a part of his rhetoric. Why is he lying? I dunno. It could fall on either side of the fence. Whatever. Lynch it and be done.


Ozgin already claimed VT. I don't think he can walk away from that. :/

[Taly]

Can someone please post intent to hammer before ANYONE makes a vote on Ozgin?

Also preferably, can we have Ozgin post at least 1 more time before he is hammered?

[Varsoon]

He takes the town slip credit as well despite this sort of thing never happening. Plus, he has a decent coach on scum narratives IMO in Varsoon. By setting up a by claim, a low powered scum can essentially confirm themselves later. Who would fake a claim since post 102? That's absurd.

@Varsoon, that doesn't make any sense either. Citizen is not common to this site. No one would think all towns were Citizens reading the first post. You have had a constant shift of explanations, trying to defend Ozgin after that slip.

You voted Ozgin for his bad citizen claim right after I did. If you actually could clear Ozgin, such a vote makes no sense. There are indeed flaws like that throughout.

You're trying to build this fake-as-fuck narrative where I'm

defending

Ozgin over a slip when, literally, I was the first person to call him out on it and, for a good and long damn amount of time, I outright held my initial ground that it was a slip. You're also trying to paint some weird moon-logic Titus shit where you were voting Ozgin over his slip first when it was me that called him out for it and made a case on him that was independent of this slip nonsense in the first place. Your initial vote on Ozgin wasn't accompanied by any text. Only after I made my points did you come in with "Oh yeah, I noticed that too."

Why are you positioning yourself as this GRAND REVEALER AND HEAD OF THE OZGIN wagon? You weren't. I was. I jumped off that shit because I was legit convinced Ozgin was just town fucking up badly.
Why are you making all these fabrications and grand allusions to some Ozgin/Varsoon team? It doesn't exist. You're spouting off fan-fiction at this point.

I think it's in my right to call you out on this.

[dragonspawn]

Intent to hammer.

I thought the original intent statement was obvious but to clear things up I wil hammer.

won't be soon though. I'm starting work.

[Taly]

Intent to hammer.

I thought the original intent statement was obvious but to clear things up I wil hammer.

won't be soon though. I'm starting work.

Oh, I usually see intents to be bolded. So I skimmed over it, oopsies. D:

Well in any case, thank you ._. o:

[Bookitty]

Also preferably, can we have Ozgin post at least 1 more time before he is hammered?

This isn't really up to us. He's been hanging back and letting other people defend him for a while.

[Titus]

Your mention of fan fiction makes me wish I could hydra with Elusive. Haha haha.

We will have this out tomorrow Varsoon.

[Skybird]

I've been following the thread and I have no problem with an Ozgin lynch.

[SilverWolf]

I have no objections to the hammer.

[Prolapsed Brain]

You don't believe the Best Friends claim, House?

I believe it. I just think he's scum anyway.

dragon is always scum.

Per the wiki, Best Friends know each other are town. So, your two assertions blatantly contradict each other.

Stop this.

(still on page 57, reading and posting stream of consciousness.)

On preview, I see talk of hammer-acceptance. Give me an hour or two to finish reading, please? (Deadline seems to be 6+ days.)

[Titus]

We should have Drixx and Delta give reads before hammer as well.

[Boonskiies]

Did someone say L-1?

VOTE: Ozgin

[Boonskiies]

Anywho, enough of this. Tomorrow we lynch Taly or LaLa.

[T S O]

I'm here, and I have no objections to the hammer. It's a scum lynch.

[Cheetory6]

I saw new post by Boon.
And I knew exactly what it would be.
-.-

[T S O]

Well, my timing was fortuitous.

[SilverWolf]

Why am I not surprised?

[House]

You don't believe the Best Friends claim, House?

I believe it. I just think he's scum anyway.

dragon is always scum.

Per the wiki, Best Friends know each other are town. So, your two assertions blatantly contradict each other.

Stop this.

(still on page 57, reading and posting stream of consciousness.)

On preview, I see talk of hammer-acceptance. Give me an hour or two to finish reading, please? (Deadline seems to be 6+ days.)

You don't get it dude.

I'm not talking about his alignment.

[Cheetory6]

Hope I was wrong.
Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaake.

[T S O]

I have to say, I like Boon, but your whole derphammer thing is really toxic.

[SilverWolf]

I hate the new site meta that means L-2 is the new L-1.

[Cheetory6]

"guys i wil just claim best frends for no reason and then lol hammer because wynot!?!??!?!"
Never gets old.

[Taly]

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