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[BROseidon]

it is pretty spammy in this case because you really could just edit your posts

How does editing a bunch of sentences together into a single post help versus having it delineated across several posts? The net content that has to be read is the same, and if anything splitting up responses to posts across multiple posts makes it easier for other people to track/respond to you.

[BROseidon]

there is a way to combat stupid posting: DON'T READ IT

i know it goes against the collective anal OCD ppl have here that OMG GUYZ WE HAVE TO READ

EVERYTHING

, but that's really not true. if you skip over stupid crap, your reads can be just as good, if not better, than someone who reads the whole thread.

This.

I don't read posts that are more than 2 medium sized paragraphs. If it's longer, I basically skim it and read it later if I have to.

Walls are terrible.

[Ankamius]

Walls are terrible.

^

I don't read walls at all. I might search for stuff I'm specifically looking for, but otherwise they're just ugh all around.

[SleepyKrew]

spamming walls tho

[Oversoul]

If anyone reaches 500 posts at an inappropriate time during the game and *hasn't* caught the entire scum team by that point, they should be policy lynched.

[Cheery Dog]

If anyone reaches 500 posts at an inappropriate time during the game and *hasn't* caught the entire scum team by that point, they should be policy lynched.

I don't think there is an appropriate time to be reaching that many posts.

[Wisdom]

I have more than that in most games

[quadz08]

his point stands

[BROseidon]

But what if every post is 1-2 sentences versus someone who's posted 75 walls that amount to the same amount of content?

You're treating "a post" as a consistent unit when it's really not. Given the same amount of content across 500 posts versus 100 posts, it's easier to read in the 500 posts.

[Cheery Dog]

One requires clicking a next button, the other just requires scrolling. While I may be more inclined to actually read the shorter posts, having to change pages to get through the content makes the experience more frustrating, possibly because I'm not skimming as much.

Doesn't matter the format, you don't need to post that much information.

[vezokpiraka]

We are playing a game that is based on posting thoughts.

If someone wants to post thousand of pages so be it. The more they post the easier to know their alignment is.

This is seriously disturbing if people have a problem with the very basis of the game.

[Oversoul]

But what if every post is 1-2 sentences versus someone who's posted 75 walls that amount to the same amount of content?

You're treating "a post" as a consistent unit when it's really not. Given the same amount of content across 500 posts versus 100 posts, it's easier to read in the 500 posts.

Depending how the wall is formulated, it may be easier to read (and also healthier for the game). When Id
I do an isolation, walls tend to be self contained with all relevant information. One liners I have to go back and check the context. Takes more time.

[elusive]

I would rather play with people who post hundreds of posts then people who lurk. In fact, I'm kind of making a list of people who don't post and not going to /in to games with them.

This is a game where presumably through a mixture of luck, intuition, detective work, psychological profiling and\or analysis you can try to determine alignment and achieve a win con. The lurker, whether town or scum, not only detracts from having content for people to work with. The number of times scum have used lurk posts, RL posts, or VLA to get out of posting content is ridiculous. Like don't play a game if you're not going to engage.

In most other games, lurking leads to being cut off the team or not being invited to play again or being force replaced.

Hey can't post? Replace out. Have issues posting content as scum? Replace out. Or make a separate queue called, "LurkMafia" and peddle those dirty wares there.

[vezokpiraka]

I would rather play with people who post hundreds of posts then people who lurk. In fact, I'm kind of making a list of people who don't post and not going to /in to games with them.

Good luck with the list. Tell me when you'll find a game with no lurkers.

[Psyche]

But what if every post is 1-2 sentences versus someone who's posted 75 walls that amount to the same amount of content?

You're treating "a post" as a consistent unit when it's really not. Given the same amount of content across 500 posts versus 100 posts, it's easier to read in the 500 posts.

but i don't want to read all of that content

One liners I have to go back and check the context

this too

[Psyche]

it's so much easier to skim a wallpost than a bunch of spam
and yes im switching positions just because i feel like it

[notscience]

Juts because its easier to skim doesnt mean its better for the game

[Equinox]

There is a serious problem when a plurality of games have Day 1s that are 30+ pages. It makes rereading more painful than it already is, and I would guess that fewer people do this now than they used to (and should).

Activity is fine. Making 10 posts in a row or writing 10 paragraphs of flowery sentences because you can't organize your ideas effectively is not.

[Psyche]

(and should).

because getting better at mafia is a duty

[Kagami]

(and should).

because getting better at mafia is a duty

As in all team games, it's important to balance "having fun" with ensuring that your fun doesn't ruin the fun of others, especially when a game can last months and can be ruined by a single player.

To many people, a large part of the fun is winning, or at least being able to put up a good fight. That means that getting better to the point of being competent as either alignment is indeed a "duty."

Being frustrated/demotivated at some of the behaviors described in this thread is a real issue in the present site culture that's worth addressing.

That said, I don't personally have any major issues with spamming or walling, though I do tend to ignore walls if I think the poster is town. To my mind, there are bigger issues that reduce town win-rates.

[Espeonage]

I'm fairly sure there was a game where scum got caught by not engaging in anteater appreciation.

[xRECKONERx]

There is a serious problem when a plurality of games have Day 1s that are 30+ pages. It makes rereading more painful than it already is, and I would guess that fewer people do this now than they used to (and should).

This!

Rereading is such a useful tool but inflating the post count for no reason and spamposting makes it a chore to go back and read.

I want my games with 15 page D1s back

[Ankamius]

If getting back down to 15-20 page day 1s requires going back to mostly walls, then I'll take the spamposting. At least that is readable the

first

time through.

[Equinox]

If getting back down to 15-20 page day 1s requires going back to mostly walls, then I'll take the spamposting. At least that is readable the

first

time through.

Spam is not readable, period.

Some degree of socializing is expected in a Mafia game, but having to go through pages of "chucklefuckery" (thanks, Nachomamma8) is soul-sucking. Even in the less extreme case of people posting content through bursts of many, many short posts, it's usually difficult to follow along because they're not taking that bit of time to organize their thoughts and are simply posting whatever comes to mind. Signal:noise is a thing.

That's not to say that all players who play through short posts are bad at Mafia because there are some who are very good at it. It's just that the number of people trying to emulate this play style right now is

too damn high

.

It could just be the old fogey in me talking, though.

I suspect that the core argument here is not about "wall" posts vs. "spam" posts but that the balance of players subscribing to either style in games has been off-kilter in recent years.

[vezokpiraka]

If getting back down to 15-20 page day 1s requires going back to mostly walls, then I'll take the spamposting. At least that is readable the

first

time through.

Spam is not readable, period.

Some degree of socializing is expected in a Mafia game, but having to go through pages of "chucklefuckery" (thanks, Nachomamma8) is soul-sucking. Even in the less extreme case of people posting content through bursts of many, many short posts, it's usually difficult to follow along because they're not taking that bit of time to organize their thoughts and are simply posting whatever comes to mind. Signal:noise is a thing.

That's not to say that all players who play through short posts are bad at Mafia because there are some who are very good at it. It's just that the number of people trying to emulate this play style right now is

too damn high

.

It could just be the old fogey in me talking, though.

I suspect that the core argument here is not about "wall" posts vs. "spam" posts but that the balance of players subscribing to either style in games has been off-kilter in recent years.

There is no argument here. Don't you see? This is a game. Everyone plays how they like it. Not how you like it. Unless someone does something terribly anti fair play, everything is accepted. Just cause you don't like doesn't mean other players need to share your view.