Micro 474: Over the Garden Wall Mafia (GAME OVER)

[Honey bee]

VOTE: Lia

Refuck the police

why u switch marquis's vote

[Kagami]

Official Vote Count

Lia

(3): pieguyn, Nachomamma8, Doduo

Doduo

(2): Lia, Honey bee

Not Voting

(2): Alchemist21, SXTLHGaiden

With 7 alive, it takes 4 to lynch.

Deadline is in (expired on 2015-05-29 09:13:35)

[SXTLHGaiden]

Gaiden's all ready to hammer now
Any last words?

[Nachomamma8]

Unvote

[SXTLHGaiden]

Unvote

coward

[SXTLHGaiden]

on second thought
VOTE: Lia
you can hammer now.

[Lia]

@ Alchemist:

It's not the not signing that bothers me, but their attitude over it all and the way they and others are attacking me for wanting to get a better understanding of them. It's throwing up a lot of fog and making it difficult to read others as well, particularly Pie. I'm having trouble trying to decide whether Pie genuinely believes what she is saying about me or whether she is just trying to take the pressure off of Doduo.


I still have no idea about Gaiden but as Honey bee has joined Nacho and Alchemist as a town read then scum must be between Doduo, Gaiden and Pie.

I want to see Pieguyn's response to my question in 571 before going any further.

[pieguyn]

It's not something I've observed at least and it's not really something I believe will always try. What posts do you see here do you think can't come from his scum game?

it's not so much "these posts can't come from scum", it's that on a general level I feel the way he's approached most things in this game looks more like his town game than his scum game

as one example, the MS push. this is almost entirely gut, but the way he went about it didn't really feel manipulative. it felt a lot more natural and less like he was trying to look good off it or like he cared about his image, so to speak.

as another example, most of what he did at deadline - rather than lurking through it or sitting on the sidelines, there's a lot of activity, engagement, and you can tell he's trying to figure shit out. there's a lot of gut involved here but I didn't get the impression he cared about how he was coming across or trying to push an agenda with any of it. I wouldn't expect him to be engaged in the way that he was if he was scum here. from less of a meta standpoint, his thoughts on Lia at the end of D1 aligned with mine fairly closely and his thoughts on Nacho made sense to me even though I disagree with them.

Part of the reason for not elaborating on it was because it was a gut read. The post felt town. The rest was due to lack of time. But there is good stuff in that post. What do you think about what MS said about Doduo there?

them "not having reads on other players" is still a bad reason for scum reading them

it happened in this case bc they felt strongly MS was scum (similarly to me) and didn't see a need to form strong reads on other players or further engage him over it

[pieguyn]

is there any reason we're continuing to drag the day out again? there's basically nothing going on here.

[Honey bee]

it's not so much "these posts can't come from scum", it's that on a general level I feel the way he's approached most things in this game looks more like his town game than his scum game

as one example, the MS push. this is almost entirely gut, but the way he went about it didn't really feel manipulative. it felt a lot more natural and less like he was trying to look good off it or like he cared about his image, so to speak.

as another example, most of what he did at deadline - rather than lurking through it or sitting on the sidelines, there's a lot of activity, engagement, and you can tell he's trying to figure shit out. there's a lot of gut involved here but I didn't get the impression he cared about how he was coming across or trying to push an agenda with any of it. I wouldn't expect him to be engaged in the way that he was if he was scum here. from less of a meta standpoint, his thoughts on Lia at the end of D1 aligned with mine fairly closely and his thoughts on Nacho made sense to me even though I disagree with them.

Getting away with an easy mislynch at a deadline scramble with another one set up tomorrow feels like an agenda to me. The thing that's bothering me right now is that there's a clear disconnect with marquis's case against lia (which was dependent on ms being town) and notty's switch. And whatever that engagement at deadline was it's clearly gone now.

This day is dragging because people are content with letting this lynch go without knowing the reason behind it. Nacho's the one holding the hammer here so idk why he hasn't done it yet.

[pieguyn]

Getting away with an easy mislynch at a deadline scramble with another one set up tomorrow feels like an agenda to me. The thing that's bothering me right now is that there's a clear disconnect with marquis's case against lia (which was dependent on ms being town) and notty's switch. And whatever that engagement at deadline was it's clearly gone now.

I can think of a possible explanation for this but I wanna hear what Doduo says first. re: engagement, I don't think it means anything given there's only been 2 fucking pages this game day with basically nothing going on - I can't really fault them for it bc everyone (me included) is fairly checked out at this point.

[Honey bee]

I think there's at least stuff for them to comment on with their vote target so active and me trying to pick fights with them. Also it's not like they need anything going on as an excuse to post, so I don't really buy they have nothing to say.

[Kagami]

Official Vote Count

Lia

(3): pieguyn, Doduo, SXTLHGaiden

Doduo

(2): Lia, Honey bee

Not Voting

(2): Alchemist21, Nachomamma8

With 7 alive, it takes 4 to lynch.

Deadline is in (expired on 2015-05-29 09:13:35)

[Alchemist21]

I don't agree with Lia about Doduo, but I can see her points as coming from Town. I feel like both these wagons are on Town.

VOTE: Gaiden

He's feeling off again. He's a lurker. He knows it and everyone who's played with him knows it. Why would he feel the need to apologize for not posting over the weekend? I'm not really a fan with his jump onto Lia either, but that's probably more null for Gaiden.

[Nachomamma8]

is there any reason we're continuing to drag the day out again? there's basically nothing going on here.

I want to take time to actually do things this game if possible. The time for that will come Friday morning.

[Lia]

Part of the reason for not elaborating on it was because it was a gut read. The post felt town. The rest was due to lack of time. But there is good stuff in that post. What do you think about what MS said about Doduo there?

them "not having reads on other players" is still a bad reason for scum reading them

it happened in this case bc they felt strongly MS was scum (similarly to me) and didn't see a need to form strong reads on other players or further engage him over it

How do you know whether they actually felt that way rather than just giving that appearance?

What bothers me about this is that you usually reply to everything addressed to you, but when MS wrote 348, 349, 350, 353 and 354 you completely ignored him; and when he called you on it you just gave him the brush off (462).

[Kagami]

Official Vote Count

Lia

(3): pieguyn, Doduo, SXTLHGaiden

Doduo

(2): Lia, Honey bee

SXTLHGaiden

(1): Alchemist21

Not Voting

(1): Nachomamma8

With 7 alive, it takes 4 to lynch.

Deadline is in (expired on 2015-05-29 09:13:35)

[Doduo]

I forgot this account existed

just hammer already

[Doduo]

also I'm going to bed because busy tomorrow

but I wasn't planning on compromising this time anyway

so if we could just get this scumlynch (read: not me) over with that would be great

[Doduo]

VOTE: Lia

Refuck the police

why u switch marquis's vote

bc confscum

notty is gone it's all me babe

[Doduo]

seriously don't lynch me instead while i'm asleep tho because that would really fucking suck

[Doduo]

also ~reasons~

[Honey bee]

I forgot this account existed

just hammer already

VOTE: Lia

Refuck the police

why u switch marquis's vote

bc confscum

notty is gone it's all me babe

oh how convenient...

[Honey bee]

but I wasn't planning on compromising this time anyway

so the switch was intentional yesterday? okay.

I don't know who's here or not that I can trust so I'm just pointing this out after I'm nked. I'll check back in a bit.

[Kagami]

Nobody was lynched on Day 2