Battlestar Galactica Mafia - Game over!

[Mantisdreamz]

also, i'm a little disappointed in NAA's read and vote on me. because there's actually no reasoning for it?

i mean, known that he has said.


i'm guessing that he thinks that i can play better...

[RIP]

I asked if twl was Conf scum... Big difference. I don't understand why mod said we cannot kill them. Sounded like a scum power who knows.
Whatever.

[Mantisdreamz]

none*

[NotAnAxehole]

@Mantisdreamz

I have a very big concern which was just recently raised about you and your play... The unvote of LLD and the town read on LLD/SnowStorm is super sketchy for a bunch of reasons...

1) You didn't follow it up with any notable reads
2) You didn't start or join another wagon
3) You're the alternative lynch right now

In my position, it makes a lot of sense to try to get a wagon going on you, because I have a stronger scum read on you than either LLD or SnowStorm. If the wagon were to fail, I'm still pretty confident there would be a lynch today... And I'm by no means certain about my LLD read. Where your position differs is, if LLD isn't lynched today, you're getting lynched... You should know 100% whether or not that is a better lynch for town. If I were in your position, I would be pushing LLD because _ANYONE_ is better than me. I don't have a stronger town read on Toogeloo than I do on myself (even though he's _pretty much_ confirmed).

The flip floppy play today is just making me more confident in my initial read, it looks like you don't know what to do and you're scrambling to find someone who looks more scummy than you. My biggest issue with it is, your reads seem to be coming from a completely different perspective. I don't agree with Nikanor's reads, but I can see where he's coming from... For Sangres, Nero Cain and ValiliaRei, I don't understand how those are even reads at this stage. Which leads me to believe that you have additional information which is making certain people (who should be potential reads) seem townier than they are.

[curiouskarmadog]

then the irony continues to eclipse your snark in addressing my potentially wrong opinion.

[THE WRONG WAGON]

hey Krystal

if you're town

this is the time to show it

(reach out btw)

hey, i am town. :p not sure how to show it. i'm trying to explain why i posted 2744, and why i had put those ppl there. i take back val being there.

but remember you said before - regarding sangres, that they weren't really reaching out to you earlier, and that was kind of a little flag for you. i suppose i'm wondering why as well, why nacho hasn't come in here and been more active. whenever i play with him, he reads me spot on. (except for 1 time when i was scum and he was wrong, but then died on n1 or n2, so was never able to update his read). he hasn't done that at all this game. i guess it doesn't help that i've been pushing on them?

and i sound crazy because they're being screened.. but if they come up as human, i still am paranoid about a GF.

i've looked at Snowstorm's ISO a bunch of times, trying to figure out if he is actually scum. but he's had to be in defense mode for more than half of the game. i liked his reads list that he posted.


what are your thoughts on SS?

Yeah I was actually telling GM last night that I was worried about a GF in the setup.

Well, I was sure that Fery figured out who I was prior and it made me feel odd that she wasn't sorting me out. :\
They are being screened so we are okay, i think?

I actually don't have that much of a read on Snow :\

Mantis VR

I think is town tbh

1. because I doubt both scum would target the same person (ttammy)
2. I don't feel that ooba would throw mud towards the potential whatever the fuck its called. (I just woke up) So I think ooba was trying to make her mislynch bait, but if shes alive we can relook someother time

ya. i agree, i went back and looked at her ISO just earlier, and realized that she had more of a presence recently then i thought.

ok, so want to talk about porochaz? because i thought he was very towny day 1. and his posting has def dropped off. but his votes are just bad, i think. because it doesn't really seem like there is conviction behind them.

I thought Poro was town too. His posting dropped off because he's currently at disney meet and will also be in NC when I'm there in FOUR DAYS.

EXCITEMENT.

[NotAnAxehole]

@Mantisdreamz

I will try to follow up with more points about your previous play if I can find more time after work. ;;

[Mantisdreamz]

@Mantisdreamz

I have a very big concern which was just recently raised about you and your play... The unvote of LLD and the town read on LLD/SnowStorm is super sketchy for a bunch of reasons...

1) You didn't follow it up with any notable reads
2) You didn't start or join another wagon
3) You're the alternative lynch right now

In my position, it makes a lot of sense to try to get a wagon going on you, because I have a stronger scum read on you than either LLD or SnowStorm. If the wagon were to fail, I'm still pretty confident there would be a lynch today... And I'm by no means certain about my LLD read. Where your position differs is, if LLD isn't lynched today, you're getting lynched... You should know 100% whether or not that is a better lynch for town. If I were in your position, I would be pushing LLD because _ANYONE_ is better than me. I don't have a stronger town read on Toogeloo than I do on myself (even though he's _pretty much_ confirmed).

The flip floppy play today is just making me more confident in my initial read, it looks like you don't know what to do and you're scrambling to find someone who looks more scummy than you. My biggest issue with it is, your reads seem to be coming from a completely different perspective. I don't agree with Nikanor's reads, but I can see where he's coming from... For Sangres, Nero Cain and ValiliaRei, I don't understand how those are even reads at this stage. Which leads me to believe that you have additional information which is making certain people (who should be potential reads) seem townier than they are.

well, actually didn't realize that deadline was so close. i was made aware of it this morning. and i didn't vote for someone after voting LLD, because i wanted to think on it. it was like 4:30am as well.

why is the townread on LLD and SS super sketchy? you seem to think the same. like i said, especially with Snowstorm - i've looked at his ISO *a lot* trying to see if i can catch a glimpse of scumminess.

this post here:
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 9#p6898009
seemed really sincere... and it looked like a bit of a rant, cause maybe he's used to being mislynched? i don't have much meta on him. but he just seems too easy. especially for ppl like poro to come in and just plop one on him, saying stuff like: http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 3#p6892933
it's meh.

and the Snowstorm read didn't come out of thin air by the way. look at my ISO. i was defending him when sangres was pushing on him for using the statement 'mislynch pool' and using the cylon thing against him.
see here: http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 5#p6875235

LLD i'll admit i'm being more wishy washy on, because there has been times where i'm thinking that she's just trying to make the appearance of being nonchalant, uncaring town. but then i look at her ISO, and i wonder if she actually really is just slightly uninterested in the game. (slightly like me). the reason for this, is because i don't love the wagons and i've really not gotten on the same page with anyone this game. except for in the PT topic with TWL & AP.



i'll end up voting her again, in order to not get lynched.

[Mantisdreamz]

@Mantisdreamz

I will try to follow up with more points about your previous play if I can find more time after work. ;;

ya ya :p

[THE WRONG WAGON]

i hate everything rn because im doubtnig my scum read on you (again)

In other news:

My dad has this guy helping him out in the yard and he's actually pretty cute. >_>

So deciding whether or not i'm making the three of us lunch or not with my horrible cooking skills.

[AngryPidgeon]

Lmao.

[Mantisdreamz]

Yeah I was actually telling GM last night that I was worried about a GF in the setup.

i don't see why not. you remember them wanting to be screened when they first came to the game right?

Well, I was sure that Fery figured out who I was prior and it made me feel odd that she wasn't sorting me out. :\
They are being screened so we are okay, i think?

but ffery said that she did know that it was you.
and wouldn't a gf just come up as human anyway?

i'll stop talking about this. plus i might get lynched anyway (no thanks to you!), so you might not have to here me going on and on about them. :p

I actually don't have that much of a read on Snow :\

you should look at his ISO. have you played with him before?

I thought Poro was town too. His posting dropped off because he's currently at disney meet and will also be in NC when I'm there in FOUR DAYS.

EXCITEMENT.

still though. his votes are not so good

[Mantisdreamz]

i hate everything rn because im doubtnig my scum read on you (again)

you should. i don't post like a madman in PT's when i'm scum.

your initial read was correct.

you know i often skim pages and say stupid stuff as town. i'm way more careful as scum;


make them grilled cheese sandwiches - easiest thing in the world to make! and everyone likes grilledchz

[Nikanor]

did somebody say grilled cheese?

[curiouskarmadog]

fuck this.

[Nikanor]

lol.

[sangres]

Mantis, I'm trying to decide if I'm more pissed off or worried about you atm.

[THE WRONG WAGON]

They don't want food. So I'm off the hook.

She did know who I was, but I asked her not to say anything til I was ready, but I expected more of her reaching out. That's the only reason why I'm doubting Sangres-town tbh. Both play from both heads are not paralleling to their normal town play. :s

I played with snow I think three times? I barely remember them.

You know I double guessed myself during Tit for Tat and ended up kicking myself when you flipped town. That's the only game recently I have done that. >.>

[curiouskarmadog]

unvote

I dont think mantis is scum

I dont think LLD is scum

whatever. I will check back and vote where ever I am needed.

LLD, why should I vote Mantis instead of you?
Mantis, why should I vote LLD instead of you?

I am the fucking definition of flip floppy today. I imagine if either Mantis or LLD flip scum this will look bad.

I am not sure why the "ironic" governor stopped the TWL lynch.

i need to be working and not looking at this game...


ghai;uhgowqghipqwh

[THE WRONG WAGON]

Because we are town. The faster people see this the faster we are going to solve the game.

[THE WRONG WAGON]

Also CKD last post looked town! So ya

[curiouskarmadog]

Also CKD last post looked town! So ya

nah, I am sure I have said the same thing as scum to look town.

[THE WRONG WAGON]

good to know.

anyways ill be back in 15, grabbing food for myself and my car :p

[Nikanor]

I'm boycotting responding to things too.

Nik baby, your location, I think I know where that is

shhh i think my girlfriend might be reading this game

the mantis wagon is horrible.

[Mantisdreamz]

Mantis, I'm trying to decide if I'm more pissed off or worried about you atm.

pissed off because i'm still paranoid about you?

i think it's fair. maybe it's because you guys are playing differently because you're in a hydra and have to refer to each other before posting much? i don't know.

do you think i am town/scum?