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Post Post #100 (ISO) » Tue Jun 02, 2015 6:43 am

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Not really.

Just thoughts on how I think scum would've tried approaching the voting phrase.

Surprisingly, the answer was: varied.
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Post Post #101 (ISO) » Tue Jun 02, 2015 6:44 am

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I never turned away all VC aspirations. :\
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Post Post #102 (ISO) » Tue Jun 02, 2015 6:45 am

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Oh.

SC.

My bad.
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Post Post #103 (ISO) » Tue Jun 02, 2015 6:46 am

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Stupid new fangled acronyms. *fist shake*
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Post Post #104 (ISO) » Tue Jun 02, 2015 6:48 am

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The same person can't be SC and VC.

So......what's your point?
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Post Post #105 (ISO) » Tue Jun 02, 2015 6:50 am

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Mainez wrote:what stuff

It probably won't make much sense to anyone else but here:

In post 13, The Bulge wrote:Trying to wrap my head around the mechanics. This should be interesting.

I'm half-expecting the elections to look like that scene in the third Pirates of the Caribbean movie.

Vice Chancellor votes probably aren't too important for analysis but once we get into Supreme Chancellor that will be interesting.

Vice Chancellor: The Bulge

This mostly trips my gut instincts about people who talk about how "interesting" something will be. The lack of a follow through when the voting was actually going on makes me think he was just saying this stuff as filler.
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Post Post #106 (ISO) » Tue Jun 02, 2015 6:52 am

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Well vett really wanted to be SC.

Self vote? Check: .
Causal offer of quid pro quo? Check: .
Nonchalant endorsement of a VC candidate (TTH) who had previously offered to support-for-SC any supporters? Check:
Ribbing of the opposition candidate? Check: .
Walking back that ribbing? Check: .
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Post Post #107 (ISO) » Tue Jun 02, 2015 6:53 am

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In post 104, TellTaleHeart wrote:The same person can't be SC and VC.

So......what's your point?

SC is scum-coveted position for obvious long term benefits.

Looking for potential ways in which scum would act towards that position is where I'm starting with scum hunting.
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Post Post #108 (ISO) » Tue Jun 02, 2015 6:56 am

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In post 106, Green Crayons wrote:Well vett really wanted to be SC.

Self vote? Check: .
Causal offer of quid pro quo? Check: .
Nonchalant endorsement of a VC candidate (TTH) who had previously offered to support-for-SC any supporters? Check:
Ribbing of the opposition candidate? Check: .
Walking back that ribbing? Check: .

Oh, this is odd because it's juxtaposed with:
In post 64, Axxle wrote:And you started off voting for yourself as a placeholder vote
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Post Post #109 (ISO) » Tue Jun 02, 2015 6:56 am

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What I'm saying is that I'm a yea vote on vett.
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Post Post #110 (ISO) » Tue Jun 02, 2015 7:01 am

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I disagree.

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Post Post #111 (ISO) » Tue Jun 02, 2015 7:16 am

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As is your right, Representative Heart.

And thanks!
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Post Post #112 (ISO) » Tue Jun 02, 2015 7:17 am

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(Just a side note: I happen to have experience with both Flames and vettrock who tend to draw heat. This is why I call them trap scumreads.)
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Post Post #113 (ISO) » Tue Jun 02, 2015 9:13 am

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@crayons: Like half the playerlist selfvoted for VC, it's pretty statistical that one of them is scum.

Thanks for replacing and happy birthday and all that jazz.

In post 105, TellTaleHeart wrote:This mostly trips my gut instincts about people who talk about how "interesting" something will be. The lack of a follow through when the voting was actually going on makes me think he was just saying this stuff as filler.

Saying something is 'interesting' is a scumtell in my book too. He kind of had follow through though, saying that VC and GC votes should be considered differently.
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Post Post #114 (ISO) » Tue Jun 02, 2015 9:16 am

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I already clarified that I was talking about SC, not VC.
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Post Post #115 (ISO) » Tue Jun 02, 2015 9:17 am

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That kind of theory discussion is general and doesn't really require much thought. I don't consider that follow through. Commentary specific to what's going on in the game is follow through to me.
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Post Post #116 (ISO) » Tue Jun 02, 2015 9:17 am

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Also, TTH, I too have played with vett and my experience with him does not cause me concern w/r/t my voiced suspicions.
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Post Post #117 (ISO) » Tue Jun 02, 2015 9:22 am

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In post 97, Green Crayons wrote:
@Mod:
during the motion phase, does the VC call only one motion at a time - so each day phase is simply a up/down vote on a single player?

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Post Post #118 (ISO) » Tue Jun 02, 2015 9:23 am

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In post 114, Green Crayons wrote:I already clarified that I was talking about SC, not VC.

Oh sorry, I noticed you clarified, but I thought you were just talking about the specific instance of TTH snubbing it and the rest of your posts.

@TTH: You're right there, I'd be interested to see what his thoughts are now that we're in the discussion phase of the game.
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Post Post #119 (ISO) » Tue Jun 02, 2015 9:25 am

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Alrighty, so VC is actually more powerful than I initially understood him to be.

Not inclined to give the VC that many motions to consider, so his rejection of motions has actual weight (versus "ofc course I rejected that motion - along with 7 others!).
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Post Post #120 (ISO) » Tue Jun 02, 2015 9:27 am

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@mod: can I retract motions?
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Post Post #121 (ISO) » Tue Jun 02, 2015 9:29 am

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In post 120, Axxle wrote:
@mod: can I retract motions?

Yes.
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Post Post #122 (ISO) » Tue Jun 02, 2015 9:30 am

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ooooh,
interesting
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Post Post #123 (ISO) » Tue Jun 02, 2015 10:08 am

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Am back from V/LA. Will read up tonight after work.
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Post Post #124 (ISO) » Tue Jun 02, 2015 11:04 am

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So, yes a lot of people self-voted. I tried to get some support by offering my vote in exchange for a vote for me. Didn't really get me anywhere. I think the scum are the ones who jumped on their partner's wagon without prompting. I think it is likely that either the VC or SC is scum given that they would have the automatic support of their partners. Probably unlikely that both are scum. Yes, I know this is painting a target on me, but it had to be said.

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