Mini 1664: TES4 UPick (Day 4)

[ika]

Seriously, ABR, this is getting annoying. I don't have a read on you and if I don't by... you know... today... <_<

jsut fucking vote him.

im reaching anti-town ika mode real fast

[McMenno]

ika why are you not voting ABR?

cus i wanted someon to notice me

VOTE: abr

whats your read lsit atm

ABR scum
ChaosOmega scum
DierFire nullscum
Venmar null
The Bulge null
House null
Bins town
BYHD town
Stab town

@ChaosOmega yes.

[Burn Your House Down]

he was lucky to have dodged a bullet

?

uh in day 1?

[Stabulous]

@Mod

I have to replace out, sorry. Some IRL things have happened and I won't be back on MS until later this year.

[Albert B. Rampage]

ABR scum
ChaosOmega scum
DierFire nullscum
Venmar null
The Bulge null
House null
Bins town
BYHD town
Stab town

ika is scum

[Dierfire]

Dier: What are your reads at this point?

Here's my list in ascending order of suspicion. I'm leaving Stab off because I want to do a different post for that one.

TOWN

BYHD:

As I said before, I liked Post 380. I also like the pressure on Venmar because it seems to have some thought behind it, unlike some of the other votes that were cast for Venmar previously. On the other hand, those apparently thoughtless votes came from Town players (Doduo and Ducks). More on this in just a second...

Chaos:

I think that the vote on Venmar in Post 72 is fine. The vote on Bulge in Post 567 is good too. Post 590 includes some good questions and some bad ones. In the sea of weak reads that I have right now, Chaos is not one that I want to lynch. In conjunction with my read on BYHD above I think that the wagon on Venmar was likely entirely driven by Town players, and I'm wondering why the Mafia players didn't join up.

NULL

Ika:

I like Ika's push on ABR better than ABR's push on Ika, but it relies on previous experience that I don't have. Otherwise I don't have much to say here. He's fairly responsive when I ask him questions, which is always nice.

Bins:

There's a suspicious series of posts moving votes to the Ducks wagon. Bulge in Post 462 points out that Ducks used her power in a way detrimental to Town, and is closely followed by ABR (Post 464), House (Post 472), and Bins (Post 473). The three followers all started on Stab so the movement looks suspicious to me. Of the four, Bins is least suspicious to me because she moved last and apparently has the same mechanism for gaining levels that Doduo did. Given her previous statements about gaining levels (Post 319), I believe her that she gains levels from being on the lynch wagon. Ordinarily I'd consider that a suspicious role in that it encourages her to play somewhat opportunistically, but in light of Doduo's flip and Stab's claim I'm not sure. I will say that I'm not liking how many of her posts don't advance the game.

McMenno:

I've lynched McMenno in a previous game for a superficial list of reads such as the one that he provided in Post 601. He flipped Town in that game, but I'm still reluctant to let that kind of superficiality play, especially since he ducked my question about why he was apparently about to vote for Ducks yesterday.

Venmar:

I don't really have much specific to go on here but I would definitely prefer to lynch Venmar over Chaos at this time, and I think that yesterday's wagon on Venmar was driven by Town.

ABR:

I don't really like the continued push against Ika on Day Two. The switch from Stab to Ducks occurred as part of a series that is suspicious to me as mentioned above. He did pick up on McMenno leaving Ika off of his list of reads in Post 601 but he's tightly focused on Ika anyway so I don't know whether that's attentive reading or just belaboring the point.

House:

I liked House's interactions with Stab, mostly because we seemed to be coming from the same mindset. I think that his vote for Ducks in Post 449 was bad because he had previously cast a vote for Ducks in Post 387, so when he moved his vote to Stab in Post 406 I assumed that he was reading Ducks as Town because of her power, and if that's the case then he must have already flipped his read on Stab.

Bulge:

In addition to being part of the move from Stab to Ducks that seemed suspicious, I note that in Post 462 Bulge says that we should keep Stab alive if he is Town but makes no judgment as to the likelihood of that. After Bins mentions this he reads Stab as Town in Post 468 but that's the first time that he mentions Stab in his ISO that I can see.

MAFIA

I'm not really strongly suspicious of anyone. All of my reads feel weak and I'm not sure how to proceed. This took longer than I expected to write, so I'll do my post on Stab later.

[GuyInFreezer]

VC 2.02

Albert B. Rampage (2):

McMenno, ika

Venmar (3):

Stabulous, Bins, Burn Your House Down

The Bulge (2):

House, ChaosOmega

ika (1):

Albert B. Rampage

ChaosOmega (1):

The Bulge

Not Voting:

DierFire, Venmar

With 11 alive, 6 to lynch

The deadline is

June 12, 2:05 PM EST

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Countdown:

(expired on 2015-06-12 14:05:00)]

Searching for replacement for Stabulous

[Bins]

That's really freaking weird that you don't have scumreads especially when there's so many people with strong reads this game that they're throwing around.

[Bins]

venmar & ABR

you know I'm going to be really freaking disappointed if either of these two are town

i was expecting really good play from the both but all i see is antitown antitown that i can't let people get away w/


bulge pls come post

[Bins]

i feel like Deir analyzing the Ducks wagon when everyone else isnt is probably good tho

[Albert B. Rampage]

So if ika is scum does me pushing a policy lynch on him make me antitown?

[ika]

So if ika is scum does me pushing a policy lynch on him make me antitown?

but im not scum?

like your not even trying

[Bins]

well youre not really pushing it

youre sitting here going "herp derp vote ika herp policy"

but i like ika and im not going to vote him ON POLICY and im not scumreading him

[Albert B. Rampage]

Well then. I'm all ears about who I should vote.

[Bins]

I honestly don't care who you vote at this moment because I'm trying to work things out myself but I'd rather you'd vote and have more reasons than a freaking D2 policy lynch that doesn't serve a purpose.

If you have legit reasons to believe Ika is scum, then fine. But other than that you're being completely useless.

[Burn Your House Down]

I have reasons to believe that both ABR and ika are scum now, and they appear to be pulling a very lame crossbus/distance.

[Burn Your House Down]

Bins, what do you think?

[ika]

still town.

hey BYH did you level up yet?

[Burn Your House Down]

No.

Why did you ask this question?

[McMenno]

Well then. I'm all ears about who I should vote.

Not ika.

[ika]

No.

Why did you ask this question?

[retracted]

[Venmar]

he was lucky to have dodged a bullet

?

uh in day 1?

?

[Bins]

Bins, what do you think?

Going to throw another question back at you.

Do you think it's more likely that this is scum v. town or town v. town?

Honestly, I can see that being a possibility. But I'm more worried about one of them being scum in the first place .. if that makes sense.

[Bins]

I am townreading Ika tho.

[ChaosOmega]

McMenno, do you have a scum read on me because I hurt your feelings, or do you have actual reasons? Because you literally haven't mentioned me at all until your post saying I was a top-2 scumread.