Newbie 1608: Snow Cones (Game Over)

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Post Post #675 (ISO) » Thu Jun 11, 2015 5:32 am

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That's exactly why I'm town reading you. It's pretty hard for scum to fake a town mindset and I just don't see how you could do it (I do have a niggle that you might just be a really good scum player but I'm not interested in pursuing it Today)

The post you quoted is why I'm pretty sure Zik is scum as well. He must have read the thread (to know Bulba was L-1) so he would have seen that I wanted to interact with him before the Day was finished and he took that chance away by hammering.

PEdit - Yeah I get that, it makes it easier for when I reread that it's stated outright though. I don't mind what your case is, I just want to see it.
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Post Post #676 (ISO) » Thu Jun 11, 2015 5:33 am

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And it wasn't solely a scumread for being V/LA. It was actually more a scumread for the contradiction between them wanting information, discussion, etc., then providing none and quickhammering. The V/LA only matters because it makes no sense they'd just pop in and quickhammer, while claiming they want discussion and concrete reads.
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Post Post #677 (ISO) » Thu Jun 11, 2015 5:37 am

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In post 668, Fro99er wrote:I'd honestly consider Keyser, but that would be option #3.

There is no third option!

We either get it right now or go home.

We're not voting until we've reasoned out who the final two mafia are. I'm not interested in anymore 'information lynches' or 'you are 100% town/you are 100% scum' reads. No more impulse voting. Only logic. You're lucky I'm not a 1-shot day vig to put to end your reign of anti-town terrorism :twisted:

If I'm option #3, you're obviously not sold on 'Master Zik-MiteyMouse' which confuses me - do you honestly not want to lynch either of them now? :eek:

Tbh, your gameplay and BlueBloodedToffee's gameplay haven't given me much faith in your town-alignment, but my Process of Elimination you must be :facepalm:
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Post Post #678 (ISO) » Thu Jun 11, 2015 5:38 am

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In post 677, Keyser Söze wrote:There is no third option!

We either get it right now or go home

That's not my point.

My point is you are my third scumread, and if we're right about Mitey, I will have to consider you tomorrow (I'm almost certain I'll be alive tomorrow assuming a Mitey lynch).
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Post Post #679 (ISO) » Thu Jun 11, 2015 5:39 am

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How can you be confused. I want to lynch Mitey. They are and have been since D1 a scumread of mine.
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Post Post #680 (ISO) » Thu Jun 11, 2015 5:40 am

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In post 677, Keyser Söze wrote:I'm not interested in anymore 'information lynches'

Who said anything about information lynches? You can't do information lynches in LyLo
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Post Post #681 (ISO) » Thu Jun 11, 2015 5:41 am

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In post 677, Keyser Söze wrote:you're obviously not sold on 'Master Zik-MiteyMouse'

Bingo

I'm sold on Mitey. I'm less sold on who her scumpartner is.
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Post Post #682 (ISO) » Thu Jun 11, 2015 5:43 am

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In post 679, Fro99er wrote:How can you be confused. I want to lynch Mitey. They are and have been since D1 a scumread of mine.


All talk. You voted Bulbazoor D2, and wanted to lynch yourself D1 :evil: Just make sure you vote for your scum read now.

[obviously don't vote just yet though :facepalm: ]
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Post Post #683 (ISO) » Thu Jun 11, 2015 5:44 am

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In post 682, Keyser Söze wrote:wanted to lynch yourself D1

I did not WANT to lynch myself D1. I said if we got down to deadline, with a nolynch possible, and I was at L-1, I'd vote myself.

I'd much rather have WANTED to vote scum. You're making shit up now.
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Post Post #684 (ISO) » Thu Jun 11, 2015 5:44 am

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In post 682, Keyser Söze wrote:Just make sure you vote for your scum read now.

I voted Mitey both D1 and D2.
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Post Post #685 (ISO) » Thu Jun 11, 2015 5:46 am

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In post 681, Fro99er wrote:I'm sold on Mitey. I'm less sold on who her scumpartner is.


In post 665, Fro99er wrote:I'm just trying to figure out who Zik's partner is now.


Stop contradicting yourself. You are the most anti-town contradictory scummy townie I have ever played with. If you lynch me, your perfect anti-town game would be complete.
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Post Post #686 (ISO) » Thu Jun 11, 2015 5:47 am

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In post 677, Keyser Söze wrote:
Tbh, your gameplay and BlueBloodedToffee's gameplay haven't given me much faith in your town-alignment, but my Process of Elimination you must be :facepalm:

So, I hate this line.

Hate. It.
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Post Post #687 (ISO) » Thu Jun 11, 2015 5:47 am

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In post 683, Fro99er wrote:I said if we got down to deadline, with a nolynch possible, and I was at L-1, I'd vote myself.

As a VT, this is a good move to do in that situation. I even pointed out examples of it being proposed BY OUR MODERATOR IN MY FIRST NEWBIE GAME had it gotten down to deadline with L-1 on him. He flipped VT. That was my very first game of forum mafia EVER, and only my 4th game or so ever, so I took it as a good learning tool of when is the correct time to self vote.
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Post Post #688 (ISO) » Thu Jun 11, 2015 5:48 am

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In post 685, Keyser Söze wrote:
In post 681, Fro99er wrote:I'm sold on Mitey. I'm less sold on who her scumpartner is.


In post 665, Fro99er wrote:I'm just trying to figure out who Zik's partner is now.


Stop contradicting yourself. You are the most anti-town contradictory scummy townie I have ever played with. If you lynch me, your perfect anti-town game would be complete.

I'm not contradicting myself. If I think Zik has been scummy and I think Mitey has been scummy, it would make sense I want to figure out their partners.

I'm starting to lean Mitey/Keyser.
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Post Post #689 (ISO) » Thu Jun 11, 2015 5:49 am

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I could think both Mitey and Zik are scummy, but not think they are partners. All that means is I know one of my reads is wrong.
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Post Post #690 (ISO) » Thu Jun 11, 2015 5:50 am

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In post 683, Fro99er wrote:
In post 682, Keyser Söze wrote:wanted to lynch yourself D1

I did not WANT to lynch myself D1. I said if we got down to deadline, with a nolynch possible, and I was at L-1, I'd vote myself.

I'd much rather have WANTED to vote scum. You're making shit up now.


VT's SHOULD NOT TELL THE MAFIA THEY WANT TO VOTE FOR THEMSELVES.
YOU HELPED THE MAFIA NARROW DOWN THE TOWN PR POOL.
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Post Post #691 (ISO) » Thu Jun 11, 2015 5:51 am

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In post 690, Keyser Söze wrote:VT's SHOULD NOT TELL THE MAFIA THEY WANT TO VOTE FOR THEMSELVES.
YOU HELPED THE MAFIA NARROW DOWN THE TOWN PR POOL.

Completely disagree in that situation. Our esteemed moderator GIF agrees too, because that's EXACTLY the situation he was in as VT in newbie 1593
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Post Post #692 (ISO) » Thu Jun 11, 2015 5:51 am

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*disagree with Keyser, agree with GIF, if that wasn't clear.
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Post Post #693 (ISO) » Thu Jun 11, 2015 5:52 am

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In post 689, Fro99er wrote:I could think both Mitey and Zik are scummy, but not think they are partners. All that means is I know one of my reads is wrong.


So you're saying Mitey may be town now?
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Post Post #694 (ISO) » Thu Jun 11, 2015 5:53 am

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In post 693, Keyser Söze wrote:
In post 689, Fro99er wrote:I could think both Mitey and Zik are scummy, but not think they are partners. All that means is I know one of my reads is wrong.


So you're saying Mitey may be town now?

When did I say that. That is a blatant misrep.

It's mitey and Keyser.
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Post Post #695 (ISO) » Thu Jun 11, 2015 5:53 am

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Let's pretend my last post doesn't exist.
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Post Post #696 (ISO) » Thu Jun 11, 2015 5:53 am

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In post 691, Fro99er wrote:
In post 690, Keyser Söze wrote:VT's SHOULD NOT TELL THE MAFIA THEY WANT TO VOTE FOR THEMSELVES.
YOU HELPED THE MAFIA NARROW DOWN THE TOWN PR POOL.

Completely disagree in that situation. Our esteemed moderator GIF agrees too, because that's EXACTLY the situation he was in as VT in newbie 1593


We were lynching either Mantis or Mitey, I'd even promised to hammer if need be - but MiteyMouse did the honours.

We didn't need 3 roleclaims that day. All anti-town.
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Post Post #697 (ISO) » Thu Jun 11, 2015 5:55 am

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In post 696, Keyser Söze wrote:We were lynching either Mantis or Mitey

There was a wagon on me. It was either myself or Mitey. Then somehow the Mitey wagon flipped to a Mantis wagon. Again, exactly in newbie 1593 where there was a GIF wagon, an Axle wagon, and somehow the Axle wagon magically flipped to Sparx.
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Post Post #698 (ISO) » Thu Jun 11, 2015 5:56 am

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In post 695, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:Let's pretend my last post doesn't exist.

Keyser...
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Post Post #699 (ISO) » Thu Jun 11, 2015 5:57 am

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Keyser. Let's lynch Mitey and see how this plays out tomorrow, k?

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