Mini 1653: A Game of Pokes - game over

Formerfish · Post Post #1200 (ISO) » Thu Jun 11, 2015 3:53 pm

Jesus H. Christ.

It was a fucking joke. Ari, you're a vt, doesn't it say in your role pm that you have a voice and a vote?

You people have a real problem understanding jokes.

Wickedestjr · Post Post #1201 (ISO) » Thu Jun 11, 2015 4:00 pm

In post 1200, Formerfish wrote:Jesus H. Christ.

It was a fucking joke. Ari, you're a vt, doesn't it say in your role pm that you have a voice and a vote?

You people have a real problem understanding jokes.

Oh! It was a joke...

Ok, well, what is your actual role claim then?

Aristophanes · Post Post #1202 (ISO) » Thu Jun 11, 2015 4:28 pm

In post 1200, Formerfish wrote:Jesus H. Christ.

It was a fucking joke. Ari, you're a vt, doesn't it say in your role pm that you have a voice and a vote?

You people have a real problem understanding jokes.

Oh, Okay! I get it! One sec, it's been literal months since I looked at my PM.

Aristophanes · Post Post #1203 (ISO) » Thu Jun 11, 2015 4:30 pm

Nope.

Wickedest, what is the wording of your PM?

Does it say you have a voice and a vote?
If not, what does it say?

Wickedestjr · Post Post #1204 (ISO) » Thu Jun 11, 2015 4:34 pm

Ok I don't remember, lemme check real quick...

Wickedestjr · Post Post #1205 (ISO) » Thu Jun 11, 2015 4:40 pm

In post 1203, Aristophanes wrote:Does it say you have a voice and a vote?

It does say something along those lines!

Unlike FF, I'm not a power role, though.

I think that was the joke. FF said he was a power role and then jokingly claimed VT instead... He has yet to reveal what his actual powers are. Whatever they are, I hope they can help town win this thing.

Aristophanes · Post Post #1206 (ISO) » Thu Jun 11, 2015 4:50 pm

In post 1205, Wickedestjr wrote:
In post 1203, Aristophanes wrote:Does it say you have a voice and a vote?

It does say something along those lines!

Unlike FF, I'm not a power role, though.

I think that was the joke. FF said he was a power role and then jokingly claimed VT instead... He has yet to reveal what his actual powers are. Whatever they are, I hope they can help town win this thing.

You are now making no sense.

If FF has a role pm saying he has a voice and a vote as a VT, but is a PR, would that not make him scum with a fakeclaim of VT?

Are both the words "voice" and "vote" present in your PM, Wicked?
If not, is one of the words replaced by a different keyword?

Wickedestjr · Post Post #1207 (ISO) » Thu Jun 11, 2015 5:08 pm

In post 1206, Aristophanes wrote:If FF has a role pm saying he has a voice and a vote as a VT, but is a PR, would that not make him scum with a fakeclaim of VT?

Huh... that sure sounds right to me. I say we just assume that's right and quicklynch him tonight, before he even gets the chance to explain himself.

Aristophanes wrote:Are both the words "voice" and "vote" present in your PM, Wicked?
If not, is one of the words replaced by a different keyword?

I'm not yet sure of the answer to this question. My team of investigators is working on it right now.

Aristophanes · Post Post #1208 (ISO) » Thu Jun 11, 2015 5:15 pm

In post 1207, Wickedestjr wrote:
In post 1206, Aristophanes wrote:If FF has a role pm saying he has a voice and a vote as a VT, but is a PR, would that not make him scum with a fakeclaim of VT?

Huh... that sure sounds right to me. I say we just assume that's right and quicklynch him tonight, before he even gets the chance to explain himself.

Aristophanes wrote:Are both the words "voice" and "vote" present in your PM, Wicked?
If not, is one of the words replaced by a different keyword?

I'm not yet sure of the answer to this question. My team of investigators is working on it right now.

I'm reading a certain amount of snark in this post. Am I correct?
If so, why?
If not, looking forward to the response here...

Formerfish · Post Post #1209 (ISO) » Thu Jun 11, 2015 5:16 pm

I am a vt.

I got the vote part right, and assumed that the voice part would be there since it is a pretty standard thing to put in vt role flavors. That's my bad for assuming it would be in this one.

Wickedestjr · Post Post #1210 (ISO) » Thu Jun 11, 2015 5:20 pm

In post 1208, Aristophanes wrote:I'm reading a certain amount of snark in this post. Am I correct?

Wha...? No... I'm being

completely

serious.

Wickedestjr · Post Post #1211 (ISO) » Thu Jun 11, 2015 5:21 pm

In post 1209, Formerfish wrote:I am a vt.

I got the vote part right, and assumed that the voice part would be there since it is a pretty standard thing to put in vt role flavors. That's my bad for assuming it would be in this one.

It's fine. I think Aristo and I were both just joking around.

Formerfish · Post Post #1212 (ISO) » Thu Jun 11, 2015 5:24 pm

I get that you were, I think he thought he saw something and was being legit.

Aristophanes · Post Post #1213 (ISO) » Thu Jun 11, 2015 5:28 pm

Indeed, mostly.

I still am curious what the missing word is.
I know what it is.
Anyone else know what it is?

Sorry for still being somewhat serious I guess?

FF, why would you make the joke without checking the wording yourself?
That seems unnecessarily foolish (though I doubt scum would be unnecessarily foolish at this point, so you get a town point for that).

Wickedestjr · Post Post #1214 (ISO) » Thu Jun 11, 2015 5:42 pm

In post 1213, Aristophanes wrote:I still am curious what the missing word is.
I know what it is.
Anyone else know what it is?

This conversation is slowly drifting into rule-breaking territory, that's why I avoided answering seriously. Discussion of role pm wording is against the rules. Also, it's pointless because the mod provided the vanilla townie role pm on the first page for everyone (even the mafia) to see.

Aristophanes · Post Post #1215 (ISO) » Thu Jun 11, 2015 5:43 pm

I'm sorry, I'll stop.

Is there one?
Shit.

Aristophanes · Post Post #1216 (ISO) » Thu Jun 11, 2015 5:48 pm

Okay, I thought I actually had something.

Fucking hell.

Whatever, I'm tired.
Will reread shit and have something in a few days.
Usual weekend V/la is likely in effect now.

I figured discussing it was fine, though quoting it is out. I know I was pushing the envelope a bit.

*sigh*

Aristophanes · Post Post #1217 (ISO) » Thu Jun 11, 2015 5:50 pm

Also, dat snark makes far sense now.
I'm sorry for being dumb there.

Iknal · Post Post #1218 (ISO) » Thu Jun 11, 2015 11:44 pm

Day 5
Deadline is 23/06/2015 1930 UTC +10
(expired on 2015-06-23 19:30:00)

Vote Count 5.1
massive(1): Wickedestjr

Not Voting(6): massive, havingfitz, Aristophanes, Kop, Formerfish
With 6 alive it takes 4 to lynch.

Wickedestjr · Post Post #1219 (ISO) » Fri Jun 12, 2015 4:58 am

Unvote.

havingfitz · Post Post #1220 (ISO) » Fri Jun 12, 2015 7:05 am

I'm a hider.

N1 I hid behind Wicked as I felt pretty strongly that he was town and it was still early enough to take the risk of being wrong or him getting shot (actually was more worried about him getting shot than him being scum).

N2-N4 I didn't hide behind anyone. I considered hiding behind massive or formerfish each night but hesitation about their alignments plus the chance they would be NK targets if town caused me to take a pass.

So wicked is confirmed town and there are two scum amongst Fish-Aristo-Kop-massive.

I'm finding it a little hard to believe town would have 4 PRs so I have some doubt about massive given his doc claim. Just not sure if I want to push his lynch today on the chance I'm wrong. Also...we don't know what the scum team has in terms of PR/s. If they have 2 decent PRs town could conceivably have 4 PRs......so bleh.

On that note....given random did flip town Vig...and viking was just normal scum....we should assume scum have a roleblocker. So a scum RB + a scum ___ could = 4 town PRs (maaaaaaaaybe????????). The other thing I do not like regarding massive's claim (aside from the 4 PR thing) is the fact he allowed random to go unprotected N4. Why protect someone (Aristo) who could conceivably be scum? If you had a strong enough read on wicked to protect him N1 and N2, and finally presumably earned a save with a N3 protect on random...which in your mind (along with the viking flip) should have locktight guaranteed he was town...why stray off random N4 or not go back to wicked? And scum...if they thought there was a doc could have just as easily targeted you (or wicked). So why leave confirmed town from your POV unprotected and protect a question mark when 1) you could have been protecting scum, 2) you could have brought us to D5 with 1 rock solid confirmed town.

So if massive is given a pass today that would leave 1-2 scum amongst Fish-Aristo-Kop.

On fence about massive. Of the remaining three I have the most suspicion towards Aristo. Though Kop's presence (or lack of) the last few days has been bothersome.

I'll try to get some more posting in tonight.

Also, though probably not v/LA worthy, it's worth noting I will be doing an overnight hike this weekend and I expect I'll have little or no internet access until Monday. I.e. I'll be very scarce.

Wickedestjr · Post Post #1221 (ISO) » Fri Jun 12, 2015 7:28 am

Hmm... there's no way havingfitz and massive are both town. Hider, cop, one-shot vig, and doc make for an overpowered town. Also, iknal had three town power roles in the last game he modded.

I will be voting for one of those players. Most likely massive - but there are two minor things giving me pause;

Firstly, havingfitz, everyone seemed to town read me by the end of day 1. You weren't afraid that I would get night killed night 1?

Secondly, if massive is scum then that means he no killed on night 3 to setup for a doc claim. This is possible, but also pretty strange.

There are a lot more reasons for massive scum, though;
-See post 1175. He's been caught in a few lies after trying to confirm himself as town.
-Doc/Cop/Vig is a pretty unoriginal setup for us, it makes more sense that a hider would be in play to add some uniqueness.
-Doc/Cop is also potentially a deadly combo for scum. We know that there is a scum role blocker (because random's shot failed), but if that role were to get lynched on day 1, then there's nothing stopping the Doc/Cop team from taking over.

TL;DR - I'm probably going to end up voting massive again, but would like havingfitz to answer that question.

massive · Post Post #1222 (ISO) » Fri Jun 12, 2015 11:08 am

vote havingfitz

and yeah, there's no way a hider, a cop, a doc, and a one-shot vig are all in play. Convenient that your hider has NO results except Wickedest, and convenient that Wickedest is the first one pushing hider as the likely "true" role over the doc. It's gotta be fitz / Wickedest and I'm going to have a hell of a time convincing people of that, aren't I.

Aristophanes · Post Post #1223 (ISO) » Fri Jun 12, 2015 12:42 pm

In post 1222, massive wrote:
vote havingfitz

and yeah, there's no way a hider, a cop, a doc, and a one-shot vig are all in play. Convenient that your hider has NO results except Wickedest, and convenient that Wickedest is the first one pushing hider as the likely "true" role over the doc. It's gotta be fitz / Wickedest and I'm going to have a hell of a time convincing people of that, aren't I.

I'm in agreement.
Just not going to vote until this is more settled in my mind.

havingfitz · Post Post #1224 (ISO) » Fri Jun 12, 2015 1:11 pm

That's an awfully defensive post massive considering I was at least willing to entertain you were telling the truth.

Why is my one hide behind wicked (who you claim to consider town based on your protects) an issue? Hider is a crap PR IMO and after the 1st night I didn't feel comfortable taking the risk again.

Why ignore my questions regarding your PR "actions?"

What happened to this?

In post 1177, massive wrote:I saw some stuff at the end of D3 / beginning of yesterday that didn't sit right with me but I really need go settle in and reread some stuff.