Mini 1671 - Eclipse Mafia - Total Eclipse (Game Over)

Juls · Post Post #1075 (ISO) » Thu Jun 11, 2015 4:26 pm

Thanks GC. I'll try to get to it tomorrow after work but NLT Saturday.

Green Crayons · Post Post #1076 (ISO) » Thu Jun 11, 2015 4:28 pm

Ain't no thing. Tomorrow is Friday. Please do something fun after work.

Juls · Post Post #1077 (ISO) » Thu Jun 11, 2015 4:30 pm

In post 1076, Green Crayons wrote:Ain't no thing. Tomorrow is Friday. Please do something fun after work.

I'm a 35 year old mother of two. 'Fun' is relative.

Green Crayons · Post Post #1078 (ISO) » Thu Jun 11, 2015 4:38 pm

I'm a 30 year old dad of two cats.

Fun is all we have left. /solidarity

pisskop · Post Post #1079 (ISO) » Fri Jun 12, 2015 4:10 am

I'm a 25 yr old poor student with a double-first dui! too much fun

pisskop · Post Post #1080 (ISO) » Fri Jun 12, 2015 4:11 am

What are we doing?

Albert B. Rampage · Post Post #1081 (ISO) » Fri Jun 12, 2015 6:54 am

Equinox is going to blow this game wide open! Or not...

Albert B. Rampage · Post Post #1082 (ISO) » Fri Jun 12, 2015 7:03 am

Either way expectations are high.

Zoronos · Post Post #1083 (ISO) » Fri Jun 12, 2015 8:32 am

Piss - What did you think of my PeaceBringer case? You asked me for it. Any response at all?

Juls - Sorry, I totally misread your question. I thought you asked me to analyze as if PK had been lynched and flipped scum to find his partners, not PB.
I'll get the question you *actually* asked answered tonight or this weekend, when I have time to go back through all the posting histories.
At the start of the day (after you, Piss, and Peace had posted your lists, but before ABR had posted) I wrote up a partner analysis for all four possible scum teams, but ABR's post made me realize I had been using a bad assumption so I chucked it.

Juls · Post Post #1084 (ISO) » Fri Jun 12, 2015 11:17 am

I went through ABR and PB today and made notes and left them at work :/ I will TRY to do it again tomorrow morning and do the other two as well.

PeaceBringer · Post Post #1085 (ISO) » Fri Jun 12, 2015 12:44 pm

In post 1083, Zoronos wrote:I had been using a bad assumption so I chucked it.

Imagine that...

Zoronos · Post Post #1086 (ISO) » Fri Jun 12, 2015 2:04 pm

Credibility attacks are scummy.
Play towny and I'll change my mind. Do scummy things like personal attacks, and it just makes it more obvious that my read is right.

Equinox · Post Post #1087 (ISO) » Fri Jun 12, 2015 10:17 pm

Speaking of credibility attacks...

Green Crayons, how would you feel about, say, lynching Albert B. Rampage?

The way he has been subtly undermining me Today bugged me, but I couldn't put a name to the behavior until literally 5 minutes ago when I remembered that he did this to Sakura Hana in Paradise Lost.

I'm still (slowly) catching up, which is why I've been power lurking. TBH, I probably should have replaced out by now, but considering I replaced in, up and leaving feels wrong, too. Welp!

Albert B. Rampage · Post Post #1088 (ISO) » Sat Jun 13, 2015 12:42 am

I can't undermine you by my own self I need a team to do it. The entire game is waiting on you.

Albert B. Rampage · Post Post #1089 (ISO) » Sat Jun 13, 2015 12:44 am

Also, I'm saying you're a good player who isn't doing anything, the opposite of Sakura.

Green Crayons · Post Post #1090 (ISO) » Sat Jun 13, 2015 1:14 am

I'm uncertain about ABR. so was Sotty. We both had a town read early game, but it sort of diminished.

Green Crayons · Post Post #1091 (ISO) » Sat Jun 13, 2015 1:15 am

PK, you want to lynch ABR or Juls?

pisskop · Post Post #1092 (ISO) » Sat Jun 13, 2015 3:04 am

Si. Y U unvote Juls?

Green Crayons · Post Post #1093 (ISO) » Sat Jun 13, 2015 5:16 am

Pick one.

pisskop · Post Post #1094 (ISO) » Sat Jun 13, 2015 5:44 am

vote: Juls

pisskop · Post Post #1095 (ISO) » Sat Jun 13, 2015 5:44 am

YU Unovte Juls?

Green Crayons · Post Post #1096 (ISO) » Sat Jun 13, 2015 5:53 am

In post 1087, Equinox wrote:The way he has been subtly undermining me Today bugged me, but I couldn't put a name to the behavior until literally 5 minutes ago when I remembered that he did this to Sakura Hana in Paradise Lost.

Can you point out the posts you're referring to?

Green Crayons · Post Post #1097 (ISO) » Sat Jun 13, 2015 6:29 am

@Equi:

sorry for the mealy-mouthed response w/r/t ABR earlier. I just finished rereading D2, and I think ABR is likely town. I'll let you know if this read changes as I get through D3.

Thoughts:

D2 was really difficult to reread. I dunno why. The first time I was reading through, I thought RC was possible scum, so I actually gave RC's posts credence this time around. His longer posts are slow going, but there's some really good material in them.

I keep coming back to Post 375.

RC strong townreads: sotty, ABR, BBT
RC weak townreads: Zoro, me
RC weak scumreads: PB, Juls
RC strong scumreads: scarab

RC was killed before Equi (confirmed IC) and Sotty (semi-confirmed PR). Porque?

(1) RC was correct about scarab/PK scum, and scum wanted to nip that in the bud.

Possible scenario, definitely.

(2) RC was wrong about scarab/PK scum, and scum wanted to push that narrative for a mislynch of scarab/PK.

Unlikely. I originally thought that this was the case, but the folks who first floated this idea were town (BBT).

(3) RC was more right than wrong in his reads - that is, he was (say) 2/3rds right on PB/Juls/Scarab being scum, and only only 1 wrong about a townread.

This would probably be the biggest motivator for scum to get rid of RC, moreso than RC just simply being right about 1 single scum player.

ALSO, sidenote, if I was ABR-scum, why would I want to kill one of my strongest defenders? I know ABR is an unconventional player, but I don't see why he would want to play this game on HARD MODE vis-a-vis killing RC. This is a huge hiccup in scumreading ABR for me, but I guess it's not insurmountable.

ALSO ALSO, I think it's worth nothing that scum might have thought RC was PR hint-dropping: "The first big thing is I have a strong townread on Sotty. 202, 269 and 371 are really noteworthy. This is someone that is actively asking the right questions and drawing the same conclusions as I am for the most part.

She's officially my mason this game and I don't see how anything short of a cop report will get me to change my mind.

"

MAYBE. I don't know. That's a stretch, because wtf would RC have dropped such a hint in his first substantive replace-in post? dumb, dumb, dumb.

That said, even if scumteam thought RC was PR dropping (investigative role or mason role), if I were ABR-scum, I wouldn't have killed RC. If RC was mason, there's no benefit in getting rid of that 1/2 of the masonhood. If RC was an investigative role, you know who RC probably wouldn't be investigating? One of his strongest townreads, based off of RC's immediately prior experience with the scum version: ABR. In contrast, you know who RC probably would be investigating? One of the trio of suspected scumreads.

Ultimately, RC's town read of ABR held throughout D2. Even in Post 616, when RC is critical of ABR, RC is still calling ABR town. I don't think ABR-scum would have killed RC on N2.

Green Crayons · Post Post #1098 (ISO) » Sat Jun 13, 2015 6:30 am

Alright, day-drinking and inlaws incoming, so who knows when I'll hit up D3.

Zoronos · Post Post #1099 (ISO) » Sat Jun 13, 2015 9:47 am

In post 1083, Zoronos wrote:Piss - What did you think of my PeaceBringer case? You asked me for it. Any response at all?

Pisskop!
If you're the other town in this setup, I need you to work with me.
Thoughts? Anything?

Give me a hand here.