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Post Post #1450 (ISO) » Sat Jun 13, 2015 10:24 am

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I was trying to play less than my townie town game day one because I was a power role and I don't like being nightkilled night one as a power role. That is why I kept telling Farside to back off, because if I'd had to claim I might as well have not been in this game at all.

I suspect that d3x tried to kill Farside night one and that I saved her from that, but she ended up dying anyway because vengeful. I don't know for sure, but I'm guessing that. As a one-shot, I would have tried to kill as early as possible; I assume d3x would have done the same.

Why is RIP townie to you, Salamence? Both you and Sloppy Joe are pushing this idea that RIP is town. What's your reasoning on that? What has he done that is town?

The answer to the MYLO question about Katsuki is actually in the post you quoted. If we don't lynch correctly, then ... and now I realise that they can just kill me and spare the agony. Okay, then explain to me why Katsuki as scum would need to set up a lynch on me or push suspicion on me? If we don't do it today, I'm dead and the game is over. I guess there's the possibility that you and House lied and you have a one-shot protect; that's the only reason I can see for doing that at this point. Both you and House are gambit-friendly players.

UNVOTE: because we're actually getting some decent discussion and I want to hear why I'm wrong on RIP.
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Post Post #1451 (ISO) » Sat Jun 13, 2015 12:34 pm

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In post 1450, Bookitty wrote:I was trying to play less than my townie town game day one because I was a power role and I don't like being nightkilled night one as a power role. That is why I kept telling Farside to back off, because if I'd had to claim I might as well have not been in this game at all.
A quick look at Skull's iso shows that the highest amounts of votes on you were 2 yesterday. I doubt Farside was pulling out all the stops for your lynch, so it can be seen as an overreaction, however on the other hand JK is a scummy role to choose to fakeclaim, so I can see why you would want to act scummy. IMO I'm calling it scummy for the former since I've know how it is to be scum and have someone call you out on it asap.


I suspect that d3x tried to kill Farside night one and that I saved her from that, but she ended up dying anyway because vengeful. I don't know for sure, but I'm guessing that. As a one-shot, I would have tried to kill as early as possible; I assume d3x would have done the same.
Some really faulty logic going on here. 1. We know that SK killed grapes N1 due to the lack of a second kill, because mafia had to 2 shot SK. 2. D3x was a 1-Shot BP, not a 1-shot SK. Given the fact there is a motivator, the gimmick of the SK is that he could either Poison or Kill, or possibly both with the motivation (Poison I would think isn't a faction ability). D3x I believe was scumhunting since grapes was a possible lynch D1. 3. Why would you JK Farside, the one person wanting to lynch you for being scum. That is the most important question, because I cant see a town JK blocking/protecting the person who wants them lynched.


Why is RIP townie to you, Salamence? Both you and Sloppy Joe are pushing this idea that RIP is town. What's your reasoning on that? What has he done that is town?
I can't explain why I feel town for RIP logically, I just feel as if his posting is more coming from town than scum. Scum have to actually try for a mislynch, while town can be lazy. Like I said earlier, out of you, Kats, and RIP, RIP would be my main townread.


The answer to the MYLO question about Katsuki is actually in the post you quoted. If we don't lynch correctly, then ... and now I realise that they can just kill me and spare the agony. Okay, then explain to me why Katsuki as scum would need to set up a lynch on me or push suspicion on me? If we don't do it today, I'm dead and the game is over.
There is a possibility that Kats is a solo Mafia or something and knows this isn't mylo. I don't know how many games there are with a single mafia because that would make it just another SK. She could also be setting up in case the RIP wagon doesn't get any bites.
I guess there's the possibility that you and House lied and you have a one-shot protect
Technically we have a 1-shot commute that we tried to give to lala, but you blocked it.
; that's the only reason I can see for doing that at this point. Both you and House are gambit-friendly players
I don't know how much of a gambit house was creating by calling himself a JOAT, or hiding the fact that we can make someone Hated for the rest of the game. Personally I would have came out of RVS stating that there is an SK in this game, but that's me
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UNVOTE: because we're actually getting some decent discussion and I want to hear why I'm wrong on RIP.
Don't fully understand the unvote, its not like RIP was in any danger of being speedlynched. Why didn't you give me reason to vote RIP instead of just giving up?
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Post Post #1452 (ISO) » Sat Jun 13, 2015 12:39 pm

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Okay, so I looked at Lucian Roy's post a couple of times and it's not enough to convince me of anything. I think RIP is more scummy than Bookitty right now, and unfortunantly everyone looks nullish scummy. :shifty:
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Post Post #1453 (ISO) » Sat Jun 13, 2015 12:41 pm

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Hmmm, theres no second kill N2 either.

We know mafia killed D3x.
So did Boo actually protect me?
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Post Post #1454 (ISO) » Sat Jun 13, 2015 12:58 pm

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Post Post #1455 (ISO) » Sat Jun 13, 2015 1:03 pm

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In post 1445, Salamence20 wrote:Wooo Katsuki is doing something in this game. I dont know what shes doing, but its all not fluff.

Shes playing against wincon though if shes reading Boo as scum because scum dont bus in mylo.

Anyone think Katsuki would hit SK twice in a row? I could see it


How have I been "doing something" in this game?
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Post Post #1456 (ISO) » Sat Jun 13, 2015 1:03 pm

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Or more specifically, what have I done?
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Post Post #1457 (ISO) » Sat Jun 13, 2015 1:05 pm

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In post 1437, SloppyJoe wrote:Katsuki, please elaborate on your read of Bookitty (or reference a specific post where you did).


Read my ISO from the start of D4, it's somewhere there.

Not much to elaborate, my Bookitty scumread is based mostly on intuition.
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Post Post #1458 (ISO) » Sat Jun 13, 2015 1:06 pm

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So you don't think all d3x's kills had to be delayed (cos of poison)? That's what I'd thought :s
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Post Post #1459 (ISO) » Sat Jun 13, 2015 1:07 pm

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In post 1430, Bookitty wrote:
I don't like that Katsuki seems to be setting me up as a mislynch if RIP flips town. The issue I have, though, is that unless I guess right tonight, this is MYLO. So Katsuki-scum has zero reason to push for a mislynch tomorrow unless she thinks I'm going to guess right tonight; it's like insurance, but I'm not thinking Katsuki is an "insurance" type player. I could be wrong there.


That's taking events out of order, I called you scum before I voted RIP for that godawful post of his.
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Post Post #1460 (ISO) » Sat Jun 13, 2015 1:09 pm

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Oh ya considering no double-kill happened last night, we could go with no-lynch to see what happens. This is optimal from my perspective as I don't find any of you particularly town (hence no loss + narrower pool), but would be curious to see what you guys think.
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Post Post #1461 (ISO) » Sat Jun 13, 2015 1:10 pm

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Hi Cara who's scum?
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Post Post #1462 (ISO) » Sat Jun 13, 2015 1:12 pm

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Hi Kats idk maybe you?
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Post Post #1463 (ISO) » Sat Jun 13, 2015 1:13 pm

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I have been considering no lynching but I think we'll still be in a not great position tomorrow.
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Post Post #1464 (ISO) » Sat Jun 13, 2015 1:14 pm

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QQ you'll forever think me scum even if I were mod confirmed town

Would me drawing a mod-confirmed scum role give you a townread?
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Post Post #1465 (ISO) » Sat Jun 13, 2015 1:14 pm

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In post 1300, RIP wrote:I dot think there is any VT tbh... I claimed that for reactions and only one person said they also were Vt.

I soft claim saying I'm a good man.

My name is chuck goodman or somethin like that.


Wow this is absolutely terrible. I'm surprised I didn't see this before. I still don't want to vote right away, though.

I'm a little worried about the few times House 'changed' his power role. The final role makes sense, but why make dumb jokes that aren't funny about it?

Here's where we are now with this slot (just so I'm not confused):

In post 1205, House wrote:I'm actually a JoaT.

1x Gunsmith
1x Commuter
1x Tracker
1x Loved (I can make 1 person Loved, which means it requires an extra vote to lynch them)


In post 1206, House wrote:^ That claim is real.


In post 1242, House wrote:Alright... time for me to come clean.

I'm not a JoAT. I liked. (Shocking, right?!)

I'm an Inventor. Flavor name: Knickerbockers

Abilities:

1x Ninja Serum (Commute) - tried to send to lalaladucks N2; failed, retain the serum.
1x Unnecessarily Complicated Magnifying Device (1x Watcher)
1x Code Red Mountain Dew (1x Psychologist)
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(Secret)


If I was going to lie about my abilities in this post, I wouldn't have held one of them back, I'd have simply fudged it as well.

Yes, I -did- derp N1, so I still have all my shots.


In post 1392, Salamence20 wrote:Ok, gonna start reading now. Going to be a bit.

Also lalala, the player before me already claimed, go find it.


In post 1407, Salamence20 wrote:Anyways, this looks like a slighty modified version of Dangan Rompa Mafia, a game Skull is very familiar with.

That game was vengeful/tracker/1-shotBP vs 2 goons vs Inv/tracker immune SK

My inventions are Commute/Watcher/SKcop/Hated modifier
I do personally think town is too strong here, but my setup spec is weak.

Im guessing everyone else is VT.

P-edit: I would think giving the inventions can be motivated, but you cant motivate the invention itself
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Post Post #1466 (ISO) » Sat Jun 13, 2015 1:18 pm

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Is anyone a fan of Dr. McNinja? Is Chuck Goodman a good guy? Bad guy?
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Post Post #1467 (ISO) » Sat Jun 13, 2015 1:18 pm

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Kaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaats I want you to be tooooown buuuuut youuuuuuuuu're noooooooooooot loooooooooooooking veeeeeeeeeeeery tooooooooooooooooownish D:
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Post Post #1468 (ISO) » Sat Jun 13, 2015 1:20 pm

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What about me is not looking very toooooooooooooooooooowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwnishhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh?
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Post Post #1469 (ISO) » Sat Jun 13, 2015 1:20 pm

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Well I believe RIP is probably referring to Chuck Goodrich

from Wikipedia,

Chuck Goodrich

The mayor of Cumberland, plays an integral role after he is introduced during the Zombie plague. He is a former astronaut, and devised a zombie-defense plan long before zombies were proven to exist. This is because he is actually a time traveler, and came from a future where zombies have taken over. Even after the zombies are defeated, more versions of Chuck start popping up from alternate apocalypses; one comes from a future where Dinosaurs have taken over Earth. This Chuck works alongside Doc to prevent this alternate timeline, but ends up dying at the end of the story. The original Chuck goes into hiding when a demon samurai starts hunting him, causing a hobo to take over his position through an obscure legal act.


So seems good but Pere said before this game isn't breakable by flavour so it probably doesn't mean much
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Post Post #1470 (ISO) » Sat Jun 13, 2015 1:25 pm

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Well it looks like RIP deserves a policy lynch. I'll let him speak before I put a vote on him though.
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Post Post #1472 (ISO) » Sat Jun 13, 2015 1:29 pm

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SloppyJoe no no no no no we can't just policy lynch this is make or break time
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Post Post #1473 (ISO) » Sat Jun 13, 2015 1:35 pm

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Sorry, that was a weak post. I mean that RIP deserves a policy lynch, and I think he's the scummiest out of all of us. And I want to hear if he's actually a town player or will just troll us to doom.
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