Mini 1667: Dr. McNinja McMafia [GAME OVER]

[Bookitty]

No mafia hit him twice for reasons unknown.

How, though? Poison is delayed, isn't it?

So who killed Grapes?

@SloppyJoe: If there were three mafia left we would have lost already. Number of mafia < three.

[SloppyJoe]

But there could be only one mafia or another serial killer for all we know.

[Salamence20]

No mafia hit him twice for reasons unknown.

How, though? Poison is delayed, isn't it?

So who killed Grapes?

@SloppyJoe: If there were three mafia left we would have lost already. Number of mafia < three.

Boo, I believe SK could only Kill or Poison, not both. D3x chose to kill Grapes. There is no poison

[Bookitty]

Well, I don't think there could be another Serial Killer unless there is no Mafia at all due to lack of nightkills. I seriously doubt I protected the right people to prevent an extra kill all through the game. (Though if I did that would be AWESOME!)

One scum would be weird imo. I guess it's possible. I think it's safer to assume worst case scenario here, though.

[SloppyJoe]

True. I was just curious if that was an assumption.

[Bookitty]

Boo, I believe SK could only Kill or Poison, not both. D3x chose to kill Grapes. There is no poison

Okay, so scum tried to kill D3X night one and managed it night two? I guess that makes sense. So they weren't aiming for Farside if that's right.

[SloppyJoe]

If RIP is scum (which I'm pretty sure about), who would be his potential partner?

[Salamence20]

If RIP is scum (which I'm pretty sure about), who would be his potential partner?

You.

Otherwise Boo or Kats bussed

[SloppyJoe]

I'm willing to believe that katsuki would bus her partner, but I dont see RIP voting for his partner.

I think katsuki is likely scum, but I have a town read on Bookitty.

[SloppyJoe]

I forgot Bookitty could be a mafia roleblocker though. I could take a large gambit and vote for Katsuki... Otherwise I don't really see where I can make progress.

[Salamence20]

Boos looking town this page.

I could go for Kats

[SloppyJoe]

Would it be better if you voted or I? We shouldn't both vote unless you're certain Kats is scum.

My logic is that a salamence vote on Kats will prove that either Kats is scum, Bookitty isn't, or Bookitty is on a team with Rip or kats if we survive.

[SloppyJoe]

But one of the three is confirmed scum, so we have a 66% chance of surviving.

[Salamence20]

It could be you and RIP though.

Fuck me

[Salamence20]

VOTE: Kats

Im believing JK.

Dead thread cry/cheer

[Salamence20]

Lalala if Kats flips scum youre on me tonight

[SloppyJoe]

Rip is voting for Kats so that would only make it three. It would be four if I was on a team with Boo or lalala (which doesn't really make sense). What I'm worried about is a possible Bookitty/X team but I find that unlikely.

[SloppyJoe]

So I guess this will prove that I'm either town or on RIP's/Kat's team.

[SloppyJoe]

Town needs to be more active. Especially RIP and Katsuki.

[Bookitty]

I am feeling increasingly okay about a Katsuki lynch (though I think Katsuki-scum indicates RIP-town, and I'm not sold there yet).

I do have some questions:

Katsuki, you were scumreading House for "fishing for modkills" here:

I've yet to see a player fishing for modkills flip town. House should know better as well, his push there was terrible and those emotions were fake.

And earlier you were speculating that House and I were the scumteam, but your vote landed on RIP. Can you explain how these reads have evolved? Are you still suspicious of Salamence?

Lalala, what's your read on Katsuki right now? Earlier I was sort of confused with the Cara thing; can you shed any light on that? Did you think she was buddying you at the time?

For myself, I'm really not liking this:

Oh I'm gonna be semi-V/LA for the next month but it shouldn't make too much difference because this is one of those games where I'll probably lurk until late-game anyways. It's good for me too because it's been a while since I've lurked for months on end and I really want to re-establish that playstyle.

But I don't know if Katsuki normally lurks as scum or as town, so I could use some help on this if anyone has firsthand experience.

Thanks!

[SloppyJoe]

By the way, no one should vote for Katsuki right now without claiming intent just so everyone's clear.

I guess this eliminates a joe/boo team for good. I said I doubt that Bookitty is scum and I still do, but I'm just a tad worried about both Hello Kitties. Lalala, mind giving more insight on your Salmence read?
Did he give you an invention or something?

[SloppyJoe]

Here are my reads so far:

TOWN

SloppyJoe
Bookitty
lalaladucks
Salamence
RIP
Katsuki

SCUM

[Katsuki]

Kaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaats eveeeeeeeeryyyyyyyyyyythiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiinggggggg!!!!!!!

aaaaaaaaaaalsoooooooooo vaaaaaniiiiilllaaaaaaa cooooop seeeeeeeeems susssssssssspiciouuuuuus ttttttttbbbbbbbhhhhhhh ::::::///////

Ok, what part of "everything"? IF everything about me is scummy clearly there's gotta be some things you can say about it

[lalaladucks]

I noticed the kills don't make sense either but I can't think of any plausible explanation. I didn't motivate d3x (he was trying to scumpaint me and was suspicious).

Lalala:

Why did you motivate Peacebringer Night One? Apologies if I've asked this before, but I think it's important.

He was the only person I could see that had claimed having a good PR so it didn't seem like a bad idea to try out my motivate on him, also I think I had like a 70% certain townread on him. But Peace had a day active PR, my motivate only works on active night powers.

@MOD:

Hypothetically, if a killing role was motivated, would they get two shots on the same target, two separate shots or would it be at their discretion?

The meanie marfiar can't benefit from my motivate if I try to use it on them, it doesn't work on factional PR's.

[lalaladucks]

I am feeling increasingly okay about a Katsuki lynch (though I think Katsuki-scum indicates RIP-town, and I'm not sold there yet).

Lalala, what's your read on Katsuki right now? Earlier I was sort of confused with the Cara thing; can you shed any light on that? Did you think she was buddying you at the time?

Most probably scum I think. Don't think Kats would manipulate using a nickname for me in order to get ahead in this game cos I don't think Kats cares enough about the game to do that. Kats calls me Cara in every game, it wasn't just here. Sad about Kats probably being evil D:

For myself, I'm really not liking this:

Oh I'm gonna be semi-V/LA for the next month but it shouldn't make too much difference because this is one of those games where I'll probably lurk until late-game anyways. It's good for me too because it's been a while since I've lurked for months on end and I really want to re-establish that playstyle.

But I don't know if Katsuki normally lurks as scum or as town, so I could use some help on this if anyone has firsthand experience.

Both in general I believe. It makes Kats very good at being scumsies but unfortunately not so great in the townsies department.