Mini 1667: Dr. McNinja McMafia [GAME OVER]

[lalaladucks]

Ok, what part of "everything"? IF everything about me is scummy clearly there's gotta be some things you can say about it

I suck at explaining why I scumread people sorry :s
Need to work on it. Think I was actually better at it before but I've gotten terrible for some reason.
You give me the bad vibes I guess.

[SloppyJoe]

No mafia hit him twice for reasons unknown.

How, though? Poison is delayed, isn't it?

So who killed Grapes?

@SloppyJoe: If there were three mafia left we would have lost already. Number of mafia < three.

Katsuki, your reads, please.

[SloppyJoe]

Sorry, didn't mean to quote.

[SloppyJoe]

I plan to vote tomorrow, might re-read a few things.

[Katsuki]

I am feeling increasingly okay about a Katsuki lynch (though I think Katsuki-scum indicates RIP-town, and I'm not sold there yet).

I do have some questions:

Katsuki, you were scumreading House for "fishing for modkills" here:

I've yet to see a player fishing for modkills flip town. House should know better as well, his push there was terrible and those emotions were fake.

And earlier you were speculating that House and I were the scumteam, but your vote landed on RIP. Can you explain how these reads have evolved? Are you still suspicious of Salamence?

Lalala, what's your read on Katsuki right now? Earlier I was sort of confused with the Cara thing; can you shed any light on that? Did you think she was buddying you at the time?

For myself, I'm really not liking this:

Oh I'm gonna be semi-V/LA for the next month but it shouldn't make too much difference because this is one of those games where I'll probably lurk until late-game anyways. It's good for me too because it's been a while since I've lurked for months on end and I really want to re-establish that playstyle.

But I don't know if Katsuki normally lurks as scum or as town, so I could use some help on this if anyone has firsthand experience.

Thanks!

It really doesn't make much sense for me to defend myself against scum. This post is a good example of Bookitty being bloodlusting scum.

I already stated that RIP vote is policy and I'd rather lose to you scum than RIP. OFC I hope RIP is scum but I won't be particularly heartbroken if he's not.

Cara's just going lol180 on me constantly, Sala always wants to vote me so I can't even tell if it's scum motivated. His statement of me "having done something" this game makes ZERO sense considering I've been active lurking without reading so how can I even provide content or be involved? It's irritating because Sala will post terrible shit like that regardless of alignment. I don't want to go and call him a VI but I can't read nor understand players like that. He's demonstrated in past games an ability to play like scum as any alignment.

RIP's posting has been nothing but terrible and deserves to be lynched on policy.

I have no read on Sloppy but I doubt it matters much at this point.

So this game is essentially a lolzy game and no voice of reason would save it so I haven't even tried. The only voice of reason (Bookitty) is probably a scum voice so that's why I've pretty given up at this point.

[Katsuki]

No mafia hit him twice for reasons unknown.

How, though? Poison is delayed, isn't it?

So who killed Grapes?

@SloppyJoe: If there were three mafia left we would have lost already. Number of mafia < three.

Katsuki, your reads, please.

I'm not fabricating reads when I haven't read the game. It's as if no one wants to read my ISO, where I stand today has been incredibly obvious.

[Katsuki]

Ok, what part of "everything"? IF everything about me is scummy clearly there's gotta be some things you can say about it

I suck at explaining why I scumread people sorry :s
Need to work on it. Think I was actually better at it before but I've gotten terrible for some reason.
You give me the bad vibes I guess.

The major issue I have with you is that you've been calling me scum with nothing of substance to back it up. You use words like "EVERYTHING ABOUT YOU IS SCUMMY", yet you can't even say what, beyond "bad vibes" or "feeling". It's incredibly scummy. I spent a lot of time poking you in Paradise Lost to try and work out your alignment because you were pushing me for some pretty soft things there too, but it makes me sad that you just go and call me scum every game instead of actually trying to read me.

[SloppyJoe]

That was pretty weak.

[Skullduggery]

@MOD:

Hypothetically, if a killing role was motivated, would they get two shots on the same target, two separate shots or would it be at their discretion?

No comment.

the better question is can the Poison be motivated or is it a factional ability

No comment.

[Skullduggery]

Day 4, Vote Count #6

Current Vote Count:

(0)

Bookitty

(0)

Salamence20

(0)

SloppyJoe

(1)

RIP -- Katsuki

(0)

lalaladucks

(2)

Katsuki -- RIP, Salamence20

Not Voting:

lalaladucks, SloppyJoe, Bookitty

With 6 players remaining, it takes 4 votes to hammer.

Day 4 Will End on Saturday, June 20th, at 3:30 a.m. eastern time.
Countdown: (expired on 2015-06-20 03:30:00)

Spoiler:

[lalaladucks]

The major issue I have with you is that you've been calling me scum with nothing of substance to back it up. You use words like "EVERYTHING ABOUT YOU IS SCUMMY", yet you can't even say what, beyond "bad vibes" or "feeling". It's incredibly scummy. I spent a lot of time poking you in Paradise Lost to try and work out your alignment because you were pushing me for some pretty soft things there too, but it makes me sad that you just go and call me scum every game instead of actually trying to read me.

:/
I know my reads seemingly without reasons come off as scummy, it gets me scumread every game. But I don't know at this point how to fix it. Do you think I'm scum?

[lalaladucks]

I'll read ISOs later on to get a better read on people. The questions to the mod about motivation are irrelevant because I have told you who I motivated/tried to motivate - not d3x, and Boo JK'd/RB'd me last Night. I had tried to motivate her to figure out her alignment because if her PR was factional she wouldn't get it, was gonna ask all of you who got the motivate (and obviously tell you if you didn't get motivated not to say that) and if she's town she should've been able to confirm she got it, buuuuut that obviously didn't work out and now town is in a slump.

[SloppyJoe]

Right now my only fear is a Bookitty/Salamence team, but I think with Kat's last response, we nailed a scum.

[Katsuki]

The major issue I have with you is that you've been calling me scum with nothing of substance to back it up. You use words like "EVERYTHING ABOUT YOU IS SCUMMY", yet you can't even say what, beyond "bad vibes" or "feeling". It's incredibly scummy. I spent a lot of time poking you in Paradise Lost to try and work out your alignment because you were pushing me for some pretty soft things there too, but it makes me sad that you just go and call me scum every game instead of actually trying to read me.

:/
I know my reads seemingly without reasons come off as scummy, it gets me scumread every game. But I don't know at this point how to fix it. Do you think I'm scum?

I would've called you scum long before now if I did. I still think the scenario I listed out is the most likely.

It does leave a bad taste in my mouth if Sala wins as scum but it can't be helped. I would not have minded if it was House.

[Katsuki]

Right now my only fear is a Bookitty/Salamence team, but I think with Kat's last response, we nailed a scum.

You're a shit scumhunter.

Let's play a game as I'm bored. Try building a case on me as to why I'm scum. What about my play makes me scum, and what about it is scum motivated? Explain why the pieces of evidence you use are indicative to me being scum.

[Katsuki]

Bonus question: What about my "last response" indicates that I'm scum?

[Salamence20]

Right now my only fear is a Bookitty/Salamence team, but I think with Kat's last response, we nailed a scum.

You're a shit scumhunter.

Let's play a game as I'm bored. Try building a case on me as to why I'm scum. What about my play makes me scum, and what about it is scum motivated? Explain why the pieces of evidence you use are indicative to me being scum.

Subsitute the word "scum" with "town" and you'll get the same response.

Idk.

[Salamence20]

Right now my only fear is a Bookitty/Salamence team, but I think with Kat's last response, we nailed a scum.

Thinking about it, Boo is scum only if you believe skull gave town no Protection against:

1. Mafia
2.SK
3.Poison

[lalaladucks]

Salsa beans can you please explain how you conceived the idea that the SK got to choose between killing/poisoning? Is it the same as that game you linked or some other reason?

[SloppyJoe]

Day 4, mislynch and lose. Assuming we have 1 scumteam consisting of two people...

I better make a flow chart for this.

[SloppyJoe]

I think I can actually give a case where Katsuki is scum, though. Give me a minute.

[lalaladucks]

That's a minute.

[Salamence20]

1. Your role
2. Lack of protection roles for town, especially a poison curer.
3. Killing and Poison is OP as fuck, not mentioning theres another kill. 3 kills a day in a mini is crazy

[Bookitty]

I have read Katsuki's ISO five times now. My head hurts and I'm tired of that.

@Katsuki: Why, if you think that Sala and I are a scumteam, did you vote RIP? I don't get how that follows at all. Also, you and I agree that Lalala is town. Why do you think that, though? Have you read the game in part, not at all, or in ISO?

[Bookitty]

More to the point, what made you think RIP needed rope, please? (I knew I was forgetting something.)