UK Meet 2015 Invitational (Game Over)

[ChannelDelibird]

I've just re-read and now I feel like I have a bit more of a handle on this game...

In what way?

[Ampersand]

Poro - why did you take this long to vote, and why have you chosen for your eventual vote to be on Elmo?

Really not liking the run of cdb's posts. Context gets lost in writing, but its reminding me of a certain scum game in Orlando, tone wise.

Can you explain which game you're thinking of?

- Fenchurch

[Ampersand]

In what way?

Well, I don't have loads of reads still, but more than before.

CDB - On rereading, I think he's more likely town, or at least, not especially scum. His explanation for his posting in #55 seems fairly genuine and I can see him having this reaction as town. Plus I was having some of the same feelings - awareness that my posting wasn't coming across as super townie, because I haven't been able to do much scumhunting yet, and in my opinion that is what I'm not as confident of him being town as I sometimes am, but he's townier than some for now.

Nexus - Townreading him mainly based on him having presumably committed himself to a particular role, and I think he's less likely to do that as scum.

Elmo - I also have him as null, but CES thinks that the questions he asks in #61 feel town.

AVox - Null. AVox being scum in that previous invitational makes me wary about reading him without a lot more content.

Shanba - Null. Shanba being town in that previous invitational makes me wary about reading him without a lot more content.

inspi - Leaning scum. CES points out that his comment in #69 seems fake. Did he really 'not think it would make a difference'? Seems more likely (as town) that he simply didn't consider it at a time. If so, the fact that he is declaring a thought process now means he's making it up -> therefore lying -> therefore scum.

Poro - Might be scum but I'm not great at reading Poro. My beef with the stats thing (and my tiny scum-ping) was:
Presumably Poro is 'more likely to be scum' because he picks scum more often. But we didn't pick our roles in this game. The fact that he doesn't point this out made me think that maybe, he didn't recognise that difference because he still got scum.
CES thinks: Poro might be scum because he feels like he's not really connected to the game that much.

Primate - Nullish. Although he seems fairly loose and happy so far, so maybe town.

- Fenchurch

[Ampersand]

A couple of minor things I forgot:

Nexus' cry of "bullshit" upon entering the game did make me think he'd drawn a scum PM. But his activity and engagement points towards him being town.

I guess that is the difference comparing Poro and Nexus right now? Nexus seems active and engaged, Poro seems active but not engaged.

And when I say engaged, I think maybe I mean 'scumhunting'.

- Fenchurch

PS: I edited my last post to move the Shanba and Avox reads together, because it worked better that way, but that accidentally made Elmo become 'also null' when nobody previously had been described as 'null', oops.

[Ampersand]

I haven't been able to do much scumhunting yet, and in my opinion that is what I'm not as confident of him being town as I sometimes am, but he's townier than some for now.

Woops, I also didn't finish writing this properly. It's my opinion that I'm decidedly not scumhunty when I'm scum. So failing to be scumhunty, makes me aware that I might as well be scum. Since I was having that thought process this game as town, I could imagine CDB-town having the same one.

And, sorry for taking a while to get going here, I think the past few days I've still been reeling from the aftershock of Team Mafia.

- Fenchurch

[ChannelDelibird]

Yay! Fences are town!

[ChannelDelibird]

Now let's get this inspie wagon choo-chooing.

[Nexus]

I think I'd rather a Prozac wagon. Not seeing inspie scum yet.

vote prozac

[ChannelDelibird]

Nexus's alignment should be pretty definitive within four or five pages so not that worried about him right now.

Town, for the record.

[Porochaz]

Poro - why did you take this long to vote, and why have you chosen for your eventual vote to be on Elmo?

Really not liking the run of cdb's posts. Context gets lost in writing, but its reminding me of a certain scum game in Orlando, tone wise.

Can you explain which game you're thinking of?

- Fenchurch

1. I needed a way to connect to the game, a baseless reaction fishing vote seemed like a good way to go. Elmo hasn't had much contact with the game thus far, seemed like a good place to place it. As I'm now pretty happy voting Nexus at this point in time (

vote Nexus

) I can remove it. The Nexus vote can be explained by his posts since I voted.

As for why this long, a cdb vote was tempting, but as I say context can be lost in posts, and I wasn't confident enough to put a vote down, especially without a chance to hear him out.

2. It was a larger game in the second half of the meet. In it, CDB got pressured almost immediately and he got very flustered and angry very quickly and flipped scum. I still have suspicions but as face to face and forum mafia are different beasts I don't want to vote him on a vague tell

[Nexus]

I had that brief "oh fucking hell, I'm being voted" drop in my stomach. Then I remembered who was voting for me, and chuckled.

[Porochaz]

seems a bit of a weird one

vote elmo

Fences express suspicion on me.

I think I'd rather a Prozac wagon. Not seeing inspie scum yet.

vote prozac

Nexus's posts since my vote.

The vote feels opportunistic to the extreme. Especially following on from what is a line of enquiry, surely an explanation is warranted before placing the vote down.

[Nexus]

If I wasn't suspicious of you, I wouldn't have bothered addressing your naked vote.

Try again.

[Nexus]

A naked vote on a player who has barely contributed is shit. There's no two ways about it.

[Nexus]

You mean -

Spoiler: Individual Factional Win Percentages
TOWN
Prozac P27 W18 D0 L8 Unleapt 1 69.2%

Analysing stats is scummy... grumble... grumble...

Im a pretty damn awesome town.

CDB how do you feel about this game right now?

Porochaz, speaking honestly, do you think the statistics point to you being a good lynch here?

- Fenchurch

Looking long term probably not, looking at those stats alone, maybe? but it would be a rash decision.

Also remembering the amount of trouble trying to get people to understand "back up" maybe I should translate.

PATRICK, YOU SHOULD VOTE PATRICK.

Really not liking the run of cdb's posts. Context gets lost in writing, but its reminding me of a certain scum game in Orlando, tone wise. As for inspie, Im not sure I get it. The joke or the votes.

Look at all the contributing you did here.

Zero scumhunting. Lots of "I ain't scum guv."

You did nothing for the first three pages, then threw a naked vote on a less than involved player. Then an OMGUS vote.

P. town play tbh

[Porochaz]

Whats the point in addressing the naked vote if you are going to vote me anyway?

I guess the fear of looking suspicious goes away when another justifies your reads.

[Nexus]

Not even lots of 'I ain't scum guv.' Just meaningless posts that do nothing to move the game forward.

I can excuse Post 30, but otherwise this is bollocks, wishy washyness and more bollocks. Move along.

Predit: I literally give zero shits about looking suspicious. I got my favourite role to play. I'm not going to play timidly, because there is no point.

[Nexus]

seems a bit of a weird one

vote elmo

It's not as if Fences has been like WE THINK PROZAC IS SCUM.

They aren't firm in their conviction.

I am.

CHOO CHOO MOTHERFUCKER

[Nexus]

Bollocks, didn't want those quotes. Oh well. Dalek is always fun.

[Porochaz]

The issue is that I can't argue with statistics. It also doesn't represent a single game. So it immediately took me out of this game. I can joke about it, but it's a pretty nasty (and unintentional, I presume) way to make me start on the back foot, regardless of alignment. Post 10 shows my feelings in regards to that. After that the game took off, I didn't have a place in those conversations (or that much of an interest). The baseless vote was to get me involved. Which it did.

[Nexus]

Yeah it did.

Goodnight, Porochaz.

[ChannelDelibird]

I certainly didn't mean to make you uncomfortable! It was 100% a joke vote.

[Porochaz]

I understand that and I'm not blaming you, when I say nasty I don't mean "fuck, he's been really shitty to me", I mean from a "I don't know what to do or say here" standpoint.

[Porochaz]

Yeah it did.

Goodnight, Porochaz.

[Porochaz]

Yeah it did.

Goodnight, Porochaz.