NY 184: a help (done)

[Titus]

Boon is very much in my pool but Bro to me is a logical scum claim.

[BROseidon]

VOTE: Bro

Too long.

I was playing league.

I crumbed my inno on Elyse N1 pretty hard, though.

[BROseidon]

Also I'm pretty sure there's another town gunsmith in the game along with me.

Also vonflare is conftown.

[MattP]

Any idea on when Oversoul's slot will be filled? I'd really like to hear from whoever takes it over.

About what exactly?

About Matt's dissection of Oversoul himself.

I'm curious, because until Oversoul got into it with Matt, he seemed pretty town to me. Early on he makes some good points on PK, queries Bro about implying there's a Vig in the game, engages with RC and Jake, and gets into a lengthy analysis of why Jake is wrong about PK not engaging in scumhunting... I mean, OS was fairly active kind of going after people.

He seemed mostly town as far as I was concerned until Matt started pointing out inconsistencies regarding his take on the Flubber push. It's a very good argument, I think, but I want to see the new player's take on the slot and that argument before I start leaning one way or another myself. Right now I'm ambivalent.

Like seriously

Thanks Bob. Note I'll have some limited access over the weekend, but should be able to post from my phone.

Welcome new blood.

Matt, Bro, Elyse, Lost, PK, would you comment on your likelihood to support an Ank wagon?

Ank: in response to why I think you're scum. I have felt strongly that Jake looked scummy. I do not believe your posts since replacing have changed that read, and if anything, has supported that read. I do not believe you're town, and while I do not have direct posts to point out to show why, I believe I've given several reasons throughout my history that yore welcome to dispute. In particular, your sheeping and buddying up toward Matt is very damning in my eyes. The other points are Jakes play, and I understand it's difficult to defend and answer for the play of another player when you can't read his mind or know why he made the choices he did, but they still reflect on the alignment of the slot.

Sorry, I'm not so likely to support an Ank wagon, primarily because I'm loathe to let RC slip through our fingers. But then I'm reading RC as the scummiest of scum (and anti-town to boot) while you've pegged him as somewhat townish, so this should hardly be surprising. I have a hard time believing that initial and dreadful fight between RC and the Jake/Ank slot was a scum/scum ploy.

RC:

Blatantly inconsistent and manipulative. My scummiest read.

RC is probtown

[MattP]

VOTE: Bro

Too long.

I was playing league.

I crumbed my inno on Elyse N1 pretty hard, though.

That would mean in a 14p game there is a 1-shot cop JoaT (pisskop), you're a gunsmith, and you think theres a third gunsmith

[Titus]

Can I get a list of relevant claims? Th, never read as usual.

[BROseidon]

There's probably at least one other thing that returns guilty to me.

I'm pretty sure the schtick this setup is that scum have a bunch of gunsmiths to find town PRs and that town PRs return guilty to investigatives.

[Titus]

Does Godfather return inno to GS?

[MattP]

The Bulge wagon makes no fucking sense, why is nobody seeing that?

Can we get a show of hands of anyone who actually thinks RC vs Jake is town v town? I feel like most of us don't which means we lynch scum either today or tomorrow, meanwhile Bulge will either turn up or replace out, either way his slot will most likely fix itself you all can decide about him when there's something to actually base a decision on.

This is a weird associative situation between RC/Jake/Bulge

Pedit: @Bro, pisskop was a COP, not a gunsmith That setup doesnt make sense with a cop also in the setup.

[Flubbernugget]

Maybe it's because I have zero ability to setup crack but shouldn't we be looking for clears at least on boonskiies before claims and speculation?

[MattP]

EPM posted 708 when bulge wagon was 3 and growing and RC wagon was 4

[MattP]

VOTE: TheBulge

I just reviewed Lost's iso as well. Lost never develops any position on Bulge the entirety of the game and calls him null, as Lost had done with EPM

[Titus]

Matt, I believe I am The Bulge. Reset.

Flubber, I just want current ones for my VCA work.

[MattP]

THE SCANDAL. THE SCANDAL.

[Titus]

When there are two heavy wagons on town (me plus RC), I expect 1-2 scum off and 1-2 scum on wagon.

We deduce RC likely town bc counter to Lostaway.

Hence part of my push on EPM.

[Flubbernugget]

Matt, I believe I am The Bulge. Reset.

Flubber, I just want current ones for my VCA work.

Current what

[Titus]

Claims.
So I can check my work on VCAs. For instance, if Bro is town, then Elyse and Vonflare are likely town. It's a double check mechanism. I don't want to see more claims, just the ones that exist.

[Flubbernugget]

I can't stand vca but its not gonna kill me to lurk around and whine

[RadiantCowbells]

I'm a macho townie.

By some setup shenanigans, I am also functionally a miller to gunsmith.

Broseidon, what are your results?

[BROseidon]

Innos on Elyse and Vonflare. Already said that.

[RadiantCowbells]

Alright, so with the claims I'd actually rather lynch Bulge.

[RadiantCowbells]

Bro, if this is the case though you royally fucked up.

If you were killed last night, everyone in the game would have assumed your inno was on MattP.

[RadiantCowbells]

Also MattP I have faith in you if I die.

What the shit is that coming from a GS with an inno on someone else?

That could have lost us the fucking game right there.

[BROseidon]

Bro, if this is the case though you royally fucked up.

If you were killed last night, everyone in the game would have assumed your inno was on MattP.

No, I crumbed Elyse really fucking hard.

[BROseidon]

Your shit day 1 read on Elyse bears mentioning, though.

In case you missed it - this was my 2nd crumb of the result.

Plus I had claimed to Grimm in the neighborhood.