NY 184: a help (done)

Bicephalous Bob · Post Post #1575 (ISO) » Mon Jun 15, 2015 1:06 pm

Official Vote Count

MattP

(3): Elyse, Boonskiies, RadiantCowbells

Titus

(2): Flubbernugget, MattP

BROseidon

(1): Titus

Flubbernugget

(1): BROseidon

Not Voting

(2): Ankamius, vonflare

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.

Deadline

: (expired on 2015-06-23 15:58:52)

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #1576 (ISO) » Mon Jun 15, 2015 1:09 pm

Saying that my read is shit versus claiming that you have faith in someone if you die.

That's not even a funny joke.

Elyse · Post Post #1577 (ISO) » Mon Jun 15, 2015 1:19 pm

In post 1528, Flubbernugget wrote:Using that logic I should be a stronger suspect of yours....

Don't worry my dear, you are on my list as well. Just not at the top.

BROseidon · Post Post #1578 (ISO) » Mon Jun 15, 2015 1:20 pm

In post 1576, RadiantCowbells wrote:Saying that my read is shit versus claiming that you have faith in someone if you die.

That's not even a funny joke.

There's also all the other "Elyse is town" moments I had, plus it being posted in my neighborhood.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #1579 (ISO) » Mon Jun 15, 2015 1:22 pm

Grimm died.

You could have easily made us think you inno'd maf and handed Matt the game.

MattP · Post Post #1580 (ISO) » Mon Jun 15, 2015 1:23 pm

It's likely there is a GS-immune scum role, and the two that have flipped so far are not GS immune. It's only a 14p setup soo likely 3 scum, which means GS results at this point probably don't serve much purpose

Titus · Post Post #1581 (ISO) » Mon Jun 15, 2015 1:28 pm

@MattP, I am inclined to agree but I would leave open a two scum universe. My reads right now are Elyse and Bro for scum.

BROseidon · Post Post #1582 (ISO) » Mon Jun 15, 2015 1:30 pm

In post 1580, MattP wrote:It's likely there is a GS-immune scum role, and the two that have flipped so far are not GS immune. It's only a 14p setup soo likely 3 scum, which means GS results at this point probably don't serve much purpose

Nope! It's why the PM specifies that there are no mafia docs!

MattP · Post Post #1583 (ISO) » Mon Jun 15, 2015 1:30 pm

In post 1582, BROseidon wrote:Nope! It's why the PM specifies that there are no mafia docs!

Then its kind of ridiculous we have a gunsmith and a 1-shot cop in a 14p setup

Titus · Post Post #1584 (ISO) » Mon Jun 15, 2015 1:31 pm

Godfathers are a thing though.

MattP · Post Post #1585 (ISO) » Mon Jun 15, 2015 1:31 pm

So far mafia's roles aren't that impressive

BROseidon · Post Post #1586 (ISO) » Mon Jun 15, 2015 1:32 pm

Matt, given the setup, the mafia basically have a vanilla cop and backup vanilla cop (they miss the neighborizer but it seems like everything else is fair play)

We also probably have a JK instead of a doctor.

BROseidon · Post Post #1587 (ISO) » Mon Jun 15, 2015 1:32 pm

In post 1584, Titus wrote:Godfathers are a thing though.

Gunsmiths get guilties on godfathers.

MattP · Post Post #1588 (ISO) » Mon Jun 15, 2015 1:33 pm

In post 1586, BROseidon wrote:Matt, given the setup, the mafia basically have a vanilla cop and backup vanilla cop (they miss the neighborizer but it seems like everything else is fair play)

We also probably have a JK instead of a doctor.

We do, pisskop was a 1-shot JK

And yeah sure I forgot that utility re: gunsmith, actually thats a p cool way to use a GS as a modifier *2thumbsup*

BROseidon · Post Post #1589 (ISO) » Mon Jun 15, 2015 1:34 pm

I'd be surprised if we didn't have a full one.

Titus · Post Post #1590 (ISO) » Mon Jun 15, 2015 1:36 pm

^^^Too much speculation. I have seen mods roll GF as completely investigation immune, not just cops, hence why I asked.

Second, your scenario means that scum have been falling out of the way to bus while town are attacking each other and we have managed to lynch scum through that?

MattP · Post Post #1591 (ISO) » Mon Jun 15, 2015 1:37 pm

Idk why mod would put a disclaimer regarding mafia doc and then go ahead an put in another GS-immune role for mafia? Thats soft-core bastard

MattP · Post Post #1592 (ISO) » Mon Jun 15, 2015 1:37 pm

That would be misleading imo

MattP · Post Post #1593 (ISO) » Mon Jun 15, 2015 1:39 pm

Actually Im pretty sure it's against normal rules to include modifiers like that in role PMs. Like I don't think you are allowed to say a role is definitely not in the game in a normal role pm

Titus · Post Post #1594 (ISO) » Mon Jun 15, 2015 1:42 pm

So you're saying the sample PM is fake???

MattP · Post Post #1595 (ISO) » Mon Jun 15, 2015 1:43 pm

In post 1594, Titus wrote:So you're saying the sample PM is fake???

*DRAMATIC MUSIC*

MattP · Post Post #1596 (ISO) » Mon Jun 15, 2015 1:46 pm

I didnt read the OP and Im not a gunsmith *SHRUG*

Titus · Post Post #1597 (ISO) » Mon Jun 15, 2015 1:51 pm

I am thinking Bro's claim of being GS is obviously fake. Why would a GS leave us with precisely the wrong impression of what his results were?
By claiming Elyse is his check, he can buddy the fuck up to Elyse (provided three scum) or lie and clear Elyse (four scum). I am leaning the three scum variant given Elyse repeatedly voting Lostaway is pretty good although Elyse chainsaw my admittedly limited VCA and still tunnelling with me being right is off.

MattP · Post Post #1598 (ISO) » Mon Jun 15, 2015 1:52 pm

I disagree

MattP · Post Post #1599 (ISO) » Mon Jun 15, 2015 1:59 pm

N1 mafia got a gunsmith result, N2 they didn't. BRO claimed two no gun results on vonplare and elyse. If he were scum he would have had to guess gun result on at least one of them (unless one is scum with him, which I doubt?) so the risk isnt worth it, BRO is town