Micro 488: Forest Fire - Endgame

[Soft-spoken]

ah, i always skip over role PMs in setup specs bc i see no point in reading them as the rules always state that citing them is against the rules.

@mod how on earth are arsonists prone to being ignited lmfao

[sangres]

Yeah but the sample role PM specifically mentions "you're an arsonist along with your partner player name" and talks about factional communication. I went back and checked when I saw the part of your post I bolded.

From the setup info post:

You are an

Arsonist

, along with your partner [Player Name]. You may post in the thread and vote as you see fit. Your additional abilities are listed below.

Abilities

:
- Factional Communication: During the night phase you may talk with your partner [Private Topic Link]here[/Private Topic Link].
- Factional Pyrotechnics: Each night phase either you or your partner may take one and only one of the the following actions:

• Prime
  a target for ignition by dousing them with gasoline.
  
• Ignite
  all previously primed targets by lighting them on fire and thus killing them.

Win Condition

:
- You win when only

Arsonist

aligned players are left alive, or nothing can prevent this from occurring.

Confirmation

:
- Please confirm in-thread.

[Soft-spoken]

Yeah.

Could be faked but I doubt it.

i am perfectly capable of faking that FTR... but, no... that was a townslip

[sangres]

All I can say is don't underestimate Soft-spoken. I think it makes him more likely town, but I wouldn't bet the game on it.

Soft, what do you make of the reasons players are suspicious of you?

[Soft-spoken]

i see no actual reasons. i see one person being paranoid for my questionable entrance where i got to page 6 and realized i didnt want to read the rest of the game. this is quite obviously not a scumtell as i simply could have cherrypicked posts between 6-15 to respond to as scum.

and ya dont underestimate me... i have a 70% scum winrate on most of my accounts on EM and im 2/2 here

[Gentlemen Bastards]

i have a 70% scum winrate on most of my accounts on EM

Now you've got to out whoever you are at EM (Though I'm guessing I won't know you?); the both of us initially played EM (A long time ago mostly).

Also please answer the still relevant sections of Post 491.

[sangres]

i see no actual reasons. i see one person being paranoid for my questionable entrance where i got to page 6 and realized i didnt want to read the rest of the game. this is quite obviously not a scumtell as i simply could have cherrypicked posts between 6-15 to respond to as scum.

and ya dont underestimate me... i have a 70% scum winrate on most of my accounts on EM and im 2/2 here

You're in more than one scumpile. Are they town non-reasons?

[Soft-spoken]

ehhhh... i was ineffectivebehavior im my experimental strat-bending phase. plato in my tryhard for a trophy phase. brakes in my tryhard to fix the problems in the community oh and PLEASE MOD ME phase. and duke in my "fuck you incompetent assholes im gunna cheat and win gold to prove what worthless piles of shit you are" phase. + 20 other ego alts.

as for why i find them genuine and flow with their logic (the only relevant bits ATM)

first and foremost is the genuine thing and i cant really pinpoint this... its all in phrasing and tone. reactive posting and probing into others intentions sets off huge green lights for me. competent scum usually has a plan about how to present themselves.. all but the most expert of scum have a hard time altering their narrative on the fly. when i see people sustaining a thought process while adapting to the responses they get to form a more thorough interactions and expressing firm opinions... i see that combo as a genuine interaction because its very hard to fake. the relating to the thought process part is actually part of my reading them to be genuine. ill see something they responded to on the fly and ill think "yeah that makes sense coming from their perspective"

i know this isnt very specific as to the interactions with these two, but ill sum it down to pie's interaction with you was very mater of fact... and sengres interaction with the scary wolf avatar showed detailed thought processes. as he asked more questions, sengres responses became more and more descriptive, as if sengres didnt think to say particular things at first but that they were details that were considered before the question was asked.

[Soft-spoken]

You're in more than one scumpile.

do you mind quoting... or at least referencing any serious claim that i am scum? the only one i have seen (unless bbmolla was serious) was the person that i am cross-voting.

if anyone made a serious accusation of me before page 15 they are scum.

[Soft-spoken]

im gunna f5 in 10 minutes and if there is nothing else posted im playing dota until i fall asleep

[sangres]

You're being PoE'd, mostly because there's a gossamer network of townreads forming.

There's something I've noticed about your early play in town games that I'm not seeing here. I've seen you make intentionally scummy entrances (which I thought you might be doing here) and then sort players based on what you thought of their reactions to your entrance.

[Gentlemen Bastards]

Hahahahah you're Brakes, okay; You'd probably know me as Maxwell there I guess.

I'll have to read the specifics of your town reads when I have more than 30 seconds between work calls. Should be home in a few hours to do it then.

[Soft-spoken]

I've seen you make intentionally scummy entrances (which I thought you might be doing here) and then sort players based on what you thought of their reactions to your entrance.

why did you have to say that out loud.

[Soft-spoken]

[quote="In post 511Maxwell [/quote]
great, now i have to feel inferior for the remainder of the game

[Soft-spoken]

sangres, im fine with being POE'd as scum. all that means to me is that some people have false townreads. if anyone tried to legit scumread me before page 15 though they are legit scum as fuck

[Soft-spoken]

oh and my posting is sloppy AF when im tipsy so ignore the grammar and BBcode errors TY

[sangres]

I've seen you make intentionally scummy entrances (which I thought you might be doing here) and then sort players based on what you thought of their reactions to your entrance.

why did you have to say that out loud.

because it doesn't look to me like you were doing that here and that worries me more than anything else about your play.

[BBmolla]

I was BBmolla at EM

[BBmolla]

I made the videos on youtube

[BBmolla]

meet the villager and stuff

[Quilford]

this is quite obviously not a scumtell as i simply could have cherrypicked posts between 6-15 to respond to as scum.

Yeah, and then they would have been as bad as your first post responding to pages 1 to 5 lmao

[BBmolla]

im gunna f5 in 10 minutes and if there is nothing else posted im playing dota until i fall asleep

dude play with me

I was 5k but I'm shit at the heroes who wreck this patch so now I'm like 4.7. My group mmr is like 3.9 though.

[Quilford]

ah, i always skip over role PMs in setup specs bc i see no point in reading them as the rules always state that citing them is against the rules.

Yeah, it's against the rules except in open setups where it's kind of the entire point.

[Quilford]

And yet Soft's recent posts have read as much more genuine.

SIGH

[Soft-spoken]

this is quite obviously not a scumtell as i simply could have cherrypicked posts between 6-15 to respond to as scum.

Yeah, and then they would have been as bad as your first post responding to pages 1 to 5 lmao

naw, if im scum i care about appearances