NY 184: a help (done)

Boonskiies · Post Post #1750 (ISO) » Wed Jun 17, 2015 5:14 pm

Nice. Yeah, Titus is scum.

MattP · Post Post #1751 (ISO) » Wed Jun 17, 2015 5:23 pm

In post 1602, Titus wrote:
In post 1599, MattP wrote:N1 mafia got a gunsmith result, N2 they didn't. BRO claimed two no gun results on vonplare and elyse. If he were scum he would have had to guess gun result on at least one of them (unless one is scum with him, which I doubt?) so the risk isnt worth it, BRO is town

Role cop, desperate measures, etc.

In post 1581, Titus wrote:@MattP, I am inclined to agree but I would leave open a two scum universe. My reads right now are Elyse and Bro for scum.

In post 1597, Titus wrote:I am thinking Bro's claim of being GS is obviously fake. Why would a GS leave us with precisely the wrong impression of what his results were?
By claiming Elyse is his check, he can buddy the fuck up to Elyse (provided three scum) or lie and clear Elyse (four scum). I am leaning the three scum variant given Elyse repeatedly voting Lostaway is pretty good although Elyse chainsaw my admittedly limited VCA and still tunnelling with me being right is off.

Also her pushing BRO as scum beyond any logic was scummy. She actually pointed this out herself quite nicely. I had Titus/Flubber/Boonskies as containing the scum by PoE. Flubber accepted my list as and this happened:

In post 1705, MattP wrote:I think it's pretty clear I have issue with how Flubber just accepted my list

In post 1708, Titus wrote:Why is it bad for town Flubber to do that knowing he'll be lynched though? If he was a town person [on the list], I would agree.

Titus actually DID do the opposite of Flubber. She seemed to go so much out of her way to discredit BRO, which would make sense as scum. The possible scum list is getting so small at this point that discrediting BRO's GS claim gives her some leeway.

MattP · Post Post #1752 (ISO) » Wed Jun 17, 2015 5:27 pm

VOTE: Titus

Titus · Post Post #1753 (ISO) » Wed Jun 17, 2015 5:29 pm

Nah, my vca strongly suggested Bro scum, so I pushed. I ever read upon replacing in. If Bro is town, Boonskiies is the only plausible scum left.

Bookies has been lynch shopping like mad.

I push "beyond all reason" as my modus operandi. See survivor. I pushed Ank beyond all reason (hint this is tame), and I was right that Ank was not town. I don't but cop claims with shitty crumbs. Nature of being me.

Titus · Post Post #1754 (ISO) » Wed Jun 17, 2015 5:31 pm

I do not do groupthink. Period. Lynch me for it but Bro claim on who he gun checked is shit. If he's honest, then I will want to lynch him every time he claims cop because his actions don't match his crumbs.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #1755 (ISO) » Wed Jun 17, 2015 5:36 pm

I'm not touching Titus today.

Boon, I thought better of you.

MattP · Post Post #1756 (ISO) » Wed Jun 17, 2015 5:38 pm

In post 1755, RadiantCowbells wrote:Boon, I thought better of you.

From my perspective this is chortle-worthy

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #1757 (ISO) » Wed Jun 17, 2015 5:39 pm

It's not so funny when you realize that if Bro died last night you would have been falsely cleared and won this shitty game.

MattP · Post Post #1758 (ISO) » Wed Jun 17, 2015 5:43 pm

In post 1757, RadiantCowbells wrote:It's not so funny when you realize that if Bro died last night you would have been falsely cleared and won this shitty game.

Randomness aside, I'm town, so it wouldn't have been so game-swaying! Dont you worry your little head off

Boonskiies · Post Post #1759 (ISO) » Wed Jun 17, 2015 5:48 pm

In post 1755, RadiantCowbells wrote:I'm not touching Titus today.

Boon, I thought better of you.

Eh, Titus is scum. =/ What can I say?

Boonskiies · Post Post #1760 (ISO) » Wed Jun 17, 2015 5:51 pm

In post 1740, Boonskiies wrote:
In post 1552, BROseidon wrote:Also I'm pretty sure there's another town gunsmith in the game along with me.

Also vonflare is conftown.

I'm not sure if this makes sense for me to claim right now, but this game is over due to POE anyways. This is what did it for me. His setup spec. I am the other town gunsmith, although I am an odd-night-only backup gunsmith, though. And with the even-night only backup gunsmith dead on the mafia side, it wouldn't make sense for there to be two backup gunsmiths on the scum team. This should clear me as town.

MattP · Post Post #1761 (ISO) » Wed Jun 17, 2015 5:55 pm

Yeah, that was an unnecessary claim since focus was beginning to shift from you, but that's fine

Boonskiies · Post Post #1762 (ISO) » Wed Jun 17, 2015 5:56 pm

In post 1725, Boonskiies wrote:No clue. When I haven't read the majority of a game as a pointless town role I usually have to force an argument with someone, so I spam check ISO's to prove they are scum before getting mislynched.

I stated earlier I was a pointless town role because no gunsmith has died on an odd-night, nor will that happen. This way, if scum doesn't choose to kill us, which really, they should, we'll be able to POE scum. If scum choose to kill Bro toNight, I take over, and will be shot the next night, also POE'ing them. If scum choose to not kill Broseidon in hopes of mislynching him...great, we get another inno, or perhaps even a guilty. If some reason he is faking the gunsmith claim, he'll be caught out regardless by POE, especially since we have so many people still alive.

MattP · Post Post #1763 (ISO) » Wed Jun 17, 2015 5:58 pm

In post 1274, pisskop wrote:
In post 1273, Ankamius wrote:what exactly makes you different from everyone else who has been suspecting me

Well besides me not suspecting you?
Im sure quite a bit.

In post 1275, pisskop wrote:I think you are town Ank.

@Boon, this seems to be pisskop crumbing his cop on Ank

Boonskiies · Post Post #1764 (ISO) » Wed Jun 17, 2015 5:59 pm

Nice. I didn't see that. That helps POE even more.

Boonskiies · Post Post #1765 (ISO) » Wed Jun 17, 2015 5:59 pm

Is RC confirmed town?

MattP · Post Post #1766 (ISO) » Wed Jun 17, 2015 6:02 pm

vonflare - no gun
BROseidon - town GS
RadiantCowbells
Elyse - no gun
Flubbernugget
Titus
Boonskiies - town GS backup
Ankamius -probcopped town
MattP

That leaves RC, Mattp, Flubber, Titus

I read RC as town, albeit annoying.
Despite RC's highly logical and compelling arguments, I'm p confident I read my role pm correctly

So Flubber/Titus

MattP · Post Post #1767 (ISO) » Wed Jun 17, 2015 6:03 pm

On another note, this game is rly town-sided even with the GS mechanic scum had.

Boonskiies · Post Post #1768 (ISO) » Wed Jun 17, 2015 6:04 pm

In post 1755, RadiantCowbells wrote:I'm not touching Titus today.

Boon, I thought better of you.

This actually makes no sense coming from a scum perspective in a hazardous POE situation. It's TownRC.

Which gives us the lynch pool of:

Titus
Flubber
MattP

and I guess if people don't believe my claim, me to an extent. I only put you in there, Matt, because technically by POE, you aren't confirmed to my knowledge. The best course of action would be to lynch Titus toDay, and if for some reason she ends up being town, lynch Flubber tomorrow. If somehow that doesn't end the game [it will...], we will still be at a 4 town, 1 scum advantage with 2 [potentially 2+] confirmed townies. And that's the worst possible scenario.

MattP · Post Post #1769 (ISO) » Wed Jun 17, 2015 6:04 pm

In post 1, Bicephalous Bob wrote:-Power roles guaranteed not to be in this game are Miller, Strongman, Godfather, and Traitor.

^ in the OP

There is no godfather.

MattP · Post Post #1770 (ISO) » Wed Jun 17, 2015 6:06 pm

In post 1, Bicephalous Bob wrote:-The Mafia are the only anti-town faction.

Wordage seems to imply only one scum team.

I think this game is nearly wrapped up.

Boonskiies · Post Post #1771 (ISO) » Wed Jun 17, 2015 6:06 pm

We had a very town-sided scenario happen, yes, but it was just unfortunate for scum that they lost Lost on Day 1.

Boonskiies · Post Post #1772 (ISO) » Wed Jun 17, 2015 6:07 pm

Good work, Matt.

MattP · Post Post #1773 (ISO) » Wed Jun 17, 2015 6:08 pm

You too bud *two thumbs up*

Titus · Post Post #1774 (ISO) » Wed Jun 17, 2015 6:08 pm

Very town sided scenario plus impossible.

Boo skies actually being a backup would inject randomness into the game which does not happen in a normal.