New York 185: Freshwater Frenzy!

[Boonskiies]

Drixx may have been scum

but I completely agree with his point.

I believe the point he was trying to make was compromised.

[SilverWolf]

Drixx may have been scum
but I completely agree with his point.

I can understand that because you got a bunch of shit you didn't deserve because most of us, except Drixx, didn't get the joke. But, I still don't understand why Drixx singled out House and asked for him to be removed. I was reading that whole exchange to see if I could find any scum motivation in what House did and I can't really. But I have a hard time scumreading House over being an ass because that's not alignment indicative for him.

[Xtoxm]

Alright...4 years worth of dust, so let's hope the 'ol scumdar is still in order. This is what i've got so far.

Boonskiies
dragonspawn

- Not really put any effort reading these two as the claim is too idiotic to consider as scum.

House

- Strong town read. Nature of the roleclaim looks very town motivated. Unlike what others have said, I think the multiple JOATs as town make much setup sense. Notice how all the claimed abilities are different to those of the dead town JOAT. His play reads town too, for example defense of lala of day one. There is more, too.

lalaladucks

- I feel a whole lot of frustration in her play, particularly at being tunneled on by confirmed town-Boon, and I find it difficult seeing this as a scum gambit, at least to this level. Disheartening then, that she in turn is tunneled on my own slot.

RadiantCowbells

- Erratic play, accurate scumhunting. Town lean.

FA_Q2

- Town lean.

Prolapsed Brain

Some town pings. #1822 #2705 #2822, #2986, would be examples.

Egg

- Mmm, not sure.

Silverwolf

- Playing too safe. Difficult to read at all, which I take as a slight scumtell.

DeltaWave

- Has done nothing pro-town all game from what I can see.

Peculiar that so many different people have expression suspicion of Taly. I specifically chose this game to replace into to because Taly gave me strong town vibes (apply the usual caveats that I could be wifoming...). Why is that people found Taly scummy?

[Boonskiies]

Basically read opinions, the way she reacted, her placement on the Titus wagon, and Lala's interactions with Taly.

[Boonskiies]

BUT every time he would find an excuse to change his vote to

the crappy vote that was Ozgin

.

Ozgin

Titus

,

T S O

,

Egg

,

Bookitty

,

FA_Q2

,

Taly

,

Prolapsed Brain

,

Aneninen

,

Varsoon

,

House

,

Boonskiies

You guys put him to L-1. I hammer, no exceptions on Day 1.

[lalaladucks]

Dear FA_Q2,

It has come to my attention that you've expressed strong suspicions of me several times. Yet, you are hesitant to lay down a vote on me here. Why would that be, good sir? Not because you're a malicious member of the red mafia who is afraid of looking suspect upon review of my mislynch wagon after I'm dead, of course? Because that would be very scandalous indeed.

Sincerely,


P.S.

VOTE: FA_Q2

[lalaladucks]

Basically read opinions, the way she reacted, her placement on the Titus wagon, and Lala's interactions with Taly.

pre-flip associatives are for simpletons

also you're sour that I hammered and you didn't get to

na nee na nee na na

[lalaladucks]

Disheartening then, that she in turn is tunneled on my own slot.

Taly seemed very scumbumbly to me though! All careful and nervous-scummy like. Also I'm pretty sure RC is town, I

think

SW is town and the only other non-dead people on Titus' wagon are you and me. I'm not_mafia so...? Although if you are town my suspicion of SW would return.

[SilverWolf]

xtomx-If you ISO me you'll see where I've detailed my suspicions of Taly many times.

[Boonskiies]

Ozgin

:

Titus

,

T S O

, Egg,

Bookitty

, FA_Q2, Taly, Prolapsed Brain,

Aneninen

,

Varsoon

, House,

Boonskiies

Titus:

RadiantCowbells, Silverwolf,

Titus,

Aneninen, dragonspawn,

Taly,

Kitz, Drixx, Bookitty,

lalaladucks

Kitz:

Skybird

, RadiantCowbells,

Cheetory6,

Bookitty

, lalaladucks, Silverwolf, Egg,

dragonspawn, Boonskiies

Bookitty:

RadiantCowbells,

Boonskiies,

lalaladucks, Silverwolf,

dragonspawn,

Prolapsed Brain,

Drixx

Central Hood:
House,

Dragonspawn

,

Bookitty, Kitz

, Egg

Bastion Hood:

Varsoon

,

Cheetory

,

Drixx

,

TSO

Day 1 Secondary lynch:

lalaladucks:

dragonspawn

, RadiantCowbells,

Ozgin,

Silverwolf

[lalaladucks]

oh look that's interesting!

I didn't lynch the citizen but I did lynch three scumbumbles!

I'm obviously a red maf who just wanted to keep Ozgin around bc I liked his hat!

gj loon.

Q.E.D.

[RadiantCowbells]

ur a scumbumble

[RadiantCowbells]

I'm voting you soon if you don't post more duck gifs.

[lalaladucks]

go on

do it

[RadiantCowbells]

But I wanted to be at the front of the FA_Q2 wagon.

You should just post duck gifs so I don't have to vote swap.

[Boonskiies]

Now I'm going to recolor a couple of names...

Titus:

RadiantCowbells, Silverwolf,

Titus,

Aneninen, dragonspawn,

Taly,

Kitz, Drixx, Bookitty,

lalaladucks

Kitz:

Skybird

,

RadiantCowbells,

Cheetory6,

Bookitty

,

lalaladucks, Silverwolf,

Egg,

dragonspawn, Boonskiies

Bookitty:

RadiantCowbells,

Boonskiies,

lalaladucks, Silverwolf,

dragonspawn,

Prolapsed Brain,

Drixx

Taly, Egg, and Prolapsed Brain are all on one wagon each, which I believe makes them lean town. We have no red flips on any of these wagons, and I find it highly unlikely there wasn't any on the wagons. I also find it unlikely that there would be another scum in the neighborhoods, so I think this leans towards town House/Egg. The neighborhoods don't seem to be randomized (good, randomized neighborhoods suck and are pointless. Point of neighbors is for setup spec and WIFOM. Randomization throws that out the door, along with the entire point of neighborhoods.)

RadiantCowbells, Silverwolf, and Lala all show up on every wagon, and is guaranteed to have at least one scum in them.

The Case for RC:

RC has been the first person on the wagon twice, and the second person on the second one. The fact I feel he "knew" that Bookitty was scum makes me lean towards there being a PR on red scum team that figured it out. Who knows? Could have been a pr hunter, and maybe RC thought Boo was just a PR. I do believe the biggest thing here is the earliness of being on the wagon. Lean scum. Most likely scum partner? Silverwolf.

The Case for Silverwolf:

Silverwolf wagon analysis doesn't have much to it. The first one, it seems as if she's trying to get a wagon going, and the second two she has a spot right in the middle of the wagon. Another peculiar thing is that Silverwolf is immediately after Lala on both wagons. Interesting.
Most likely scum partner? Lalaladucks

The Case for Lala:

Lala's placement on every wagon is horrendous. She hammers Titus, granted unneedingly. She is straight in the middle of both of the other wagons. Both wagons she joins in a little bit after RC does. Hmm, interesting. She didn't really do anything besides just hop onto the wagons. Most likely scum partner? RadiantCowbells


This being said...there is another grouping I found within the three. The secondary lynch to the Ozgin wagon.

lalaladucks:

dragonspawn

,

RadiantCowbells,

Ozgin,

Silverwolf

Both RadiantCowbells

and

Silverwolf are voting with Ozgin, the primary lynch target to vote Lala. With Varsoon being on the Ozgin wagon at the time, red scum has all the reason in the world to distance themselves off of the Ozgin wagon thus making sense that red scum would be on the second biggest wagon.

I want one of Silverwolf or RC lynched toDay.

[Boonskiies]

oh look that's interesting!

I didn't lynch the citizen but I did lynch three scumbumbles!

I'm obviously a red maf who just wanted to keep Ozgin around bc I liked his hat!

gj loon.

Q.E.D.

lala, I was still posting...read my most current post.

[RadiantCowbells]

RC starts wagons on scum?

must be scum.

[lalaladucks]

I want one of Silverwolf or RC lynched toDay.

LOL

u funny loon

v funny

[Xtoxm]

Don't get too hung up on wagon analysis. There doesn't

have

to be a representative of every faction on every wagon. Varsoon died N1, removing a third of red mafias wagon-appearing ability. Delta has not appeared on

any

lynch wagon. If he's lurker-scum, that leaves little representative ability for the faction. On that note, i'm frustrated that i'm the only one calling out Delta. It's Day 5, he's been allowed to lurk too far into this game. If he makes it to endgame you'll have nothing historical to judge him on.

[Boonskiies]

VOTE: Silverwolf

RC, it's blue scum and SK. All we have left is red scum. Granted, there are townie points for that. Literally the only reason for scum reading you on it is for potential PR, and the fact that you

are

on the early wagon does lean town for me. But, there is red scum on the wagons.

[Boonskiies]

Don't get too hung up on wagon analysis. There doesn't

have

to be a representative of every faction on every wagon. Varsoon died N1, removing a third of red mafias wagon-appearing ability. Delta has not appeared on

any

lynch wagon. If he's lurker-scum, that leaves little representative ability for the faction. On that note, i'm frustrated that i'm the only one calling out Delta. It's Day 5, he's been allowed to lurk too far into this game. If he makes it to endgame you'll have nothing historical to judge him on.

I mean, it's already been decided we're lynching from the Titus wagon. You said you are lean scum on Silver. Push for it.

[lalaladucks]

I wouldn't be opposed to a lynch of that penguin DW

all he's done is call for my policy lynch

but I think FA_Q2 is 2 scum 4 u and we should lynch him :}

he's been trying to set up my ML the whole game (assisted by loon ofc)

[Boonskiies]

Out of RC/Lala/Silverwolf, I am most familiar with Wolf scum, anyways. I'm going to ISO her.

[Boonskiies]

Don't get too hung up on wagon analysis. There doesn't

have

to be a representative of every faction on every wagon. Varsoon died N1, removing a third of red mafias wagon-appearing ability. Delta has not appeared on

any

lynch wagon. If he's lurker-scum, that leaves little representative ability for the faction. On that note, i'm frustrated that i'm the only one calling out Delta. It's Day 5, he's been allowed to lurk too far into this game. If he makes it to endgame you'll have nothing historical to judge him on.

Whereas I do agree with this, I find it entirely unlikely that red scum has been off of the last 3 wagons. Also, I called Delta out yesterDay. I believe Delta's most likely scum partner would be Lala, as what he was doing was discrediting that wagon.