New York 185: Freshwater Frenzy!

[lalaladucks]

quackyawnquack


can we lynch some scum already

[Boonskiies]

Meh; I can't get myself to believe RC is scum. Back to Wolf/Lala.

VOTE: Laladuck

More likely to get her lynched than Wolf at this point, and I believe they are scum together. (Delta/Lala is also one of my possibilities, and xotm has helped me disassociate Taly/Lala)

[Boonskiies]

The fact that Lala was on the case I made for at least one of the three of them being scum, along with the Delta obviously trying to derail a Lala wagon points to Lala being scum with one of them. I need to not doubt my reads.

[lalaladucks]

oh no you need to doubt them lol

[lalaladucks]

Delta obviously trying to derail a Lala wagon

can u quote that

[RadiantCowbells]

Why do you want to get yourself to believe that I'm scum?

[Boonskiies]

VOTE: Titus


No matter the flip, we lynch LaLa tomorrow. Or vig, kill her.

You're on my anti-terrorism watch list.

This feels like town on town violence to me.

This really is a "freshwater frenzy" ha ha ha h

Im gonna bust this game open this weekend. Sorry for the lack of good contributions.

Anyway why u think I'm scum boon what did I ever do to you?

I'm not 100% updated on the game but lala's posts have been really bad and deserving of a policy lynch. They may or may not be scum, because I'd expect scum to put in more effort than this. But leaving lala alive is also dangerous. I'm going to think about this a little more but I'll probably vote her, if only for policy reasons.

I still think we should PL laladucks. I'm happy with that outcome. There is lots of noise in this game that really isn't productive. The reality is that we need to stop town-on-town vanity fights like Drixx v. House and focus on the shit that needs to get done.

VOTE: Laladucks

This is a policy lynch.

Why are we not pl'ing Ducks? Also vla this weekend

I'm done with this. We lynch Lala today.


VOTE: Lala[/vote

To be honest, even more reasons to scum read him are occurring. Specifically, I believe that he is scum who doesn't believe he was being scummy. He is confused as to why people are voting for him, and doesn't feel he should be getting caught for 'no reason' at all. A town mindset would understand it, and move on from a small wagon like Lala's. Lala has never been in any real danger of getting lynched; town mindset would feel that the other person's thought process is off, or scummy. All he cares about is "the why?". ScumLala is annoyed people are catching him as scum for reasons he doesn't think are scummy.

No more PL. Going to figure something out.

Pushes me for pushing you, then eventually calls it strictly a PL damn well knowing a PL won't go through. Delta isn't a bad player. He knows what he's doing. Then, the wagon starts to actually go through, and he decides to call off for no more PL. Either he's just being uninformed town [very likely...] or he's scum buddies with Lala. Either way, everything comes back to Lala.

[Boonskiies]

@RC - I don't.

Even if Lala somehow flipped town, it would be an INCREDIBLY beneficial flip.

[Boonskiies]

And when she flips scum, we most likely get multiple confirmed townies, like FA and Egg.

[RadiantCowbells]

Meh; I can't get myself to believe RC is scum. Back to Wolf/Lala.

VOTE: Laladuck

More likely to get her lynched than Wolf at this point, and I believe they are scum together. (Delta/Lala is also one of my possibilities, and xotm has helped me disassociate Taly/Lala)

You just went from trying to push me to "I can't get myself to believe RC is scum."

[RadiantCowbells]

And how the fuck would a townflip on Lala clear FA?

[Boonskiies]

Also PB.

@RC - Doesn't mean I want to. Would much rather town read you with ease.

[Boonskiies]

Please don't be ignorant...reread the post.

And when she flips scum, we most likely get multiple confirmed townies, like FA and Egg.

[lalaladucks]

wow, you really have bust this game wide open loon.

credit to you.

guess I'm outed as obvious scum now, gosh darn

turd

nuggets!

[RadiantCowbells]

Same goes for scumflip.

I'm not seeing Lala's flip as that beneficial for either alignment.

Why did you just go from townreading me to scumreading me to "can't get myself to believe X is scum?"

That's absolute nonsense.

[Xtoxm]

Don't get too hung up on wagon analysis. There doesn't

have

to be a representative of every faction on every wagon. Varsoon died N1, removing a third of red mafias wagon-appearing ability. Delta has not appeared on

any

lynch wagon. If he's lurker-scum, that leaves little representative ability for the faction. On that note, i'm frustrated that i'm the only one calling out Delta. It's Day 5, he's been allowed to lurk too far into this game. If he makes it to endgame you'll have nothing historical to judge him on.

I mean, it's already been decided we're lynching from the Titus wagon. You said you are lean scum on Silver. Push for it.

From the Titus wagon, she would be my pick, yes. But I in no hurry to push for wagons at this time, we don't need another short day. House needs to receive his prod and subsequent replacement, he has already been replaced elsewhere on the site. Delta needs to make at least one post. I still have large sections of the thread to catch up on.

[RadiantCowbells]

And it's nothing new at all to say I don't do VCA, so I'm not supporting this "lynch from Titus wagon" idea.

Even though that would essentially clear me because I've been on every scum wagon from the get go and never lynched a townie.

[Boonskiies]

House is basically confirmed town due to the JOAT flip. There isn't two JOAT on red team based on blue team flips.

[Boonskiies]

Same goes for scumflip.

I'm not seeing Lala's flip as that beneficial for either alignment.

Why did you just go from townreading me to scumreading me to "can't get myself to believe X is scum?"

That's absolute nonsense.

You've gotten really incompetent lately.

[RadiantCowbells]

There's no evidence that he even is a JOAT.

Let's see what his claimed results are before we get too hasty.

You've gotten really incompetent lately.

3 scum wagons, 2 I was first, 1 I was second.

Maybe I'm not the problem?

[Boonskiies]

Again, I caused the Bookitty wagon, so...yeah. And Titus was dumb this game. And you haven't done crap to get red scum, because you probably

are

red scum. So shallow minded.

[Boonskiies]

There's no evidence that he even is a JOAT.

Let's see what his claimed results are before we get too hasty.

You've gotten really incompetent lately.

3 scum wagons, 2 I was first, 1 I was second.

Maybe I'm not the problem?

Also, this is just ridiculous.

[Boonskiies]

There's a reason I kept you alive when I was scum, and you were an IC. How many times did you try to shoot me this game, RC?

[RadiantCowbells]

Boon, you continually expect me to respect you as a player but you have done nothing to earn it, ever.

There's a reason I kept you alive when I was scum, and you were an IC.

I spent the entire game trying to get your partner lynched and I couldn't corral the votes to do it.

I also townread most of the lynches.

How many times did you try to shoot me this game, RC?

3.

Again, I caused the Bookitty wagon, so...yeah. And Titus was dumb this game. And you haven't done crap to get red scum, because you probably are red scum. So shallow minded.

1) I was on the Bookitty wagon before you.

2) I've pushed 3 straight lynches that have all hit scum. Maybe I just haven't had time?

Let's see what his claimed results are before we get too hasty.

*facepalm*

[SilverWolf]

RadiantCowbells, Silverwolf, and Lala all show up on every wagon, and is guaranteed to have at least one scum in them.

The Case for RC:

RC has been the first person on the wagon twice, and the second person on the second one. The fact I feel he "knew" that Bookitty was scum makes me lean towards there being a PR on red scum team that figured it out. Who knows? Could have been a pr hunter, and maybe RC thought Boo was just a PR. I do believe the biggest thing here is the earliness of being on the wagon. Lean scum. Most likely scum partner? Silverwolf.

The Case for Silverwolf:

Silverwolf wagon analysis doesn't have much to it. The first one, it seems as if she's trying to get a wagon going, and the second two she has a spot right in the middle of the wagon. Another peculiar thing is that Silverwolf is immediately after Lala on both wagons. Interesting.
Most likely scum partner? Lalaladucks

This being said...there is another grouping I found within the three. The secondary lynch to the Ozgin wagon.

lalaladucks:

dragonspawn

,

RadiantCowbells,

Ozgin,

Silverwolf

Both RadiantCowbells

and

Silverwolf are voting with Ozgin, the primary lynch target to vote Lala. With Varsoon being on the Ozgin wagon at the time, red scum has all the reason in the world to distance themselves off of the Ozgin wagon thus making sense that red scum would be on the second biggest wagon.

I want one of Silverwolf or RC lynched toDay.

Whatever the fuck Boon? You think I'm scum with RC because................. I don't even see a reason in that paragraph. It's all about RC.

Yeah, you're damn right your wagon analysis on me has not much to it. I'm next to lala on a couple wagons and we are scumpartners now?

Yeah, RC and myself are voting with town Ozgin on the lala wagon, my supposed scumbuddy, and now I'm back to scum with RC again.

How about you look at the reasons for all my votes and those of the other people you are scumreading? I believed Ozgin was town. He was clearly frustrated with scum!Titus and scum!Bookitty tunnelling him.

Regarding the other wagons. Yeah, I'm going to be on all of them. I was scumreading Titus, Kitz, and Bookitty and all 3 of them practically scumclaimed in thread. Check any of my town games. I aggressively push my scumreads and am always on the lynch wagon on scum.

So yeah, I have no clue what you are trying to prove but it makes zero sense.

Also, have you bothered to ISO anyone and see who is more likely to be scum? I'm leaning heavily on FA, Delta, and if I had to go off the Titus wagon, it would be Taly over lala who hammered to spite you and RC who was first on the wagon. I'm also leaning town on both lala and RC right now.

I don't do strict wagon or VCA analysis to scumhunt. I usually combine that with behavior in thread and I usually ISO a person as well and look at flipped scum for associations.

C'mon Boon, I know you are better than this.