Newbie 1613: Mafia in the Summer (Game Over)

[Drixx]

I already said where I think scum is. The deep dark corner of my heart wonders about Aneninen.

And you started it by making an unnecessary attack. You don't get to just imply I'm an awful player/person and then tell me to stop trying to argue against that assertion. That's a little backwards.

[Cthulhu Dreaming]

No, but what I do get to do is refuse to respond to that any longer.

So, Drixx, it's your position that scum hard bussed scum on day one? I find that hard to believe.

[Drixx]

Play the game some more. You'll see all sorts of crazy things happen. LQ dug his grave pretty rapidly, and if I had been his partner I'd have been driving that wagon. That was a fairly unpleasant reading.

[Drixx]

If your theory of game is that scum won't vote for each other, you are going to lose a lot of games.

But let's entertain it for this game. If you believe LQ's partner didn't vote for him then you have a pool of 3 people. Two of the slots have posted nothing of any use and don't seem to even be under pressure. The third slot is the one I replaced into.

[Cthulhu Dreaming]

How many newb games have you seen where scum hard bussed scum on day one?

Any?

[Cthulhu Dreaming]

If your theory of game is that scum won't vote for each other, you are going to lose a lot of games.

If that were my theory, yeah.

[Drixx]

Prior games have no direct impact on the current game. What happened in another game with other players doesn't dictate what happens in this game. LQ betrayed himself as scum very quickly by pretending early to be clueless and then using language and terminology that showed he knew the game well and was familiar with much of the basic theory of the game on this site. He was an easy to spot scum and a partner of any skill would have bussed him.

It's possible his partner was just a complete lurksack. I wouldn't default to that assumption though.

[Equinox]

Vote Count 2.05

Drixx (3) - JumpsToConclusions, radmann9, Cthulhu Dreaming
radmann9 (2) - Aneninen, DoctorPepper

Not Voting (3) - Drixx, notscience, Bulbazoor

With 8 votes in play, it will take 5 to lynch.

The deadline is Monday, July 6, 2015, at 2:30 AM EDT (UTC-4), which is in (expired on 2015-07-06 02:30:00).

[Cthulhu Dreaming]

Play the game some more. You'll see all sorts of crazy things happen.

This seems to imply that you've seen it happen before.

Then when queried on that...

How many newb games have you seen where scum hard bussed scum on day one?

Any?

Prior games have no direct impact on the current game.

It seems that perhaps you haven't.

The point was, if it escaped you, was that scum hard bussing scum on day one *seems* to be a rather rare event, and when we're attempting to find scum, jumping to a conclusion that's based an unlikely, rare event seems to be the antithesis of what is most likely to have occurred.

[Drixx]

If you play mafia long enough, you'll see everything happen. What happens in one game doesn't generally have an impact on what happens in another game. Both of these things are true. Despite it being an almost universally bad tactic in forum mafia (while it's actually a legitimately good tactic sometimes in live mafia), I believe there are even games on this site where scum night killed one of their own team.

The remaining scum was either on the wagon or was among the three off the wagon. LQ was so painfully obviously scum that I have to intentionally assume his partner was just not paying attention to the game to believe it's likely that the partner was off the wagon.

It's really that easy as far as making the initial sort.

[Bulbazoor]

If your theory of game is that scum won't vote for each other, you are going to lose a lot of games.

But let's entertain it for this game. If you believe LQ's partner didn't vote for him then you have a pool of 3 people. Two of the slots have posted nothing of any use and don't seem to even be under pressure. The third slot is the one I replaced into.

Nothing of any use? Who are you to say that about my slot? You obviously have not read my ISO.

[Bulbazoor]

You are telling us about this micro game that ended and you do not even post a URL hyperlink?

[Drixx]

What game did you want a link to? It's not like it's hard to click on someone's name and then view their topics or anything but ...

[Drixx]

Also ... I have almost as many posts as Ilhom did ... and I can't recall a single thing he said ... that's how much of an impact he made. Sorry.

[Bulbazoor]

Mini Normal 1658 Day Four. Now you act like you do not remember the game you were talking about ten minutes ago?

[Cthulhu Dreaming]

@Drixx

Why am I the only player you're having any kind of interaction with? You are, if I'm not terribly mistaken, reading me as town.

Why aren't you pressuring your scum reads?

Why aren't you pressuring your null reads?

Why aren't you pressuring *anyone*?

Why are you claiming that scum had to be on LQ's wagon, and couldn't have had a vote elsewhere when

your own readlist has three candidates that you feel are worthy of a vote

? Even in the case where there's a fairly obvious day one lynch, it's pretty easy for scum to vote elsewhere - and you must necessarily believe that, because three people *were* voting elsewhere, and you aren't scum reading any of them.

Everyone else:

Lynch this guy already.

[Drixx]

Apparently CD isn't familiar with subtlety. Or the truth.

[Bulbazoor]

VOTE: Drixx

[Drixx]

Bulbazoor is your 2nd scum.

CD - The only person I had suspicion on that has even checked in since I caught up and made a wall of quotes was notscience, and it was a flyby with two useless posts. You're going to see me flip town whenever the mod gets around to confirming the lock, but please do explain how I pressure someone who isn't here. That would be a great trick.

[Drixx]

Mini Normal 1658 Day Four. Now you act like you do not remember the game you were talking about ten minutes ago?

Hello obvscum. I thought for a moment you were just bad at math, but the quickhammer the moment someone gave you cover to do so outs you pretty solidly.

[Bulbazoor]

What hammer? That put you at L-1

[Drixx]

CD - If I wasn't wrong to assume you are town because you could have coasted on your predecessor's middle of the pack standing ... you should probably use this twilight to town advantage. You should ask me what I think about things you want to know, because the game isn't over with a lock on me.

[Cthulhu Dreaming]

Bulbazoor is your 2nd scum.

CD - The only person I had suspicion on that has even checked in since I caught up and made a wall of quotes was notscience, and it was a flyby with two useless posts. You're going to see me flip town whenever the mod gets around to confirming the lock, but please do explain how I pressure someone who isn't here. That would be a great trick.

So? In what way does that prevent you from asking questions?

[Cthulhu Dreaming]

Count the boys again. That's L-1.

Nice try, scum.

[Cthulhu Dreaming]

Someone declare intent on this obvscum.