MINI 1688 — BEES!!! — game over

[Marquis]

(expired on 2015-06-27 20:30:00)

(Sat Jun 27 @ 8:30:00 PM EST)

VOTECOUNT 2.17

• (1)

  BBmolla

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  Fro99er
  
  (0)

  ChaosOmega

  —
  
  
  (0)

  Fro99er

  —
  
  
  (0)

  Metal Sonic

  —
  
  
  (0)

  Green Crayons

  —
  
  
  (0)

  KayP

  —
  
  
  (2)

  SleepyKrew

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  EspeciallyTheLies, Not_Mafia
  
  (0)

  lalaladucks

  —
  
  
  (0)

  RedCoyote

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  (4)

  Not_Mafia

  —
  KayP, Metal Sonic, ChaosOmega, RedCoyote
  (L-2)
  
  
  (0)

  EspeciallyTheLies

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  (1)

  (NO LYNCH)

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  Green Crayons
  
  
  (3)

  (NOT VOTING)

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  SleepyKrew, lalaladucks, BBmolla
  
  With
  11

  alive
  , it takes
  6

  votes
  to lynch.
  
  

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  Awaiting prod response from: N/A

[RedCoyote]

BTW, Fro99er, if you actually cared about being honest rather than just making a cheap point, SK was not the "biggest wagon" when I joined it. I said multiple times that I explicitly DID NOT want the Bulge wagon to start and instead pushed for a UT wagon. But go ahead and ignore the context to make your point.

[ChaosOmega]

Real talk, I'm going to be leaving for a housewarming party soon, and I will be gone until after deadline. I'll have my phone, and I'll check in before deadline to help ensure a lynch.

[Fro99er]

what is there to add about TvT? It's then three townies trying their best and failing. There's no scum opportunity to try and analyze, so the argument is moot.

In town!Ducky town!UT/ETL, it could just be two townies, not three. You could be the scum pushing a UT/ETL mislynch, knowing that slot and Ducky are town.

[Metal Sonic]

I think most people think UT/ETL is either scum or has a fair possibility of being scum, but not everyone wanted to act on it at the same time. At one point or another, myself, GC, KayP, lalala, MS, Fro99er, BB and NM have all expressed varying degress of UT/ETL = scum. That's eight of twelve, one of them being confirmed town.

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You're missing a case for townLala/townETL in your options there, RC.

Well, there's not much to add there. If you two are both town then it's just three townies trying their best and failing.

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So you left every possibility open (except TvT), and then said Ducky is a nonfactor, when two of the three possibilities you listed were scum?

lalala has been a non-factor relative to the game as a whole, not specifically to that wagon (though she was a non-factor there, too).

As far as "leaving every possibility open", what is there to add about TvT? It's then three townies trying their best and failing. There's no scum opportunity to try and analyze, so the argument is moot.

This is worded in a smarmy way. I only expressed suspicion on ETL like 10 minutes ago

[RedCoyote]

I would obviously be the third townie, Fro99er. Why would you assume that I would hypothesize myself as scum for your behalf?

[Marquis]

JUST 9 AND A HALF HOURS TO DEADLINE

(AS OF THIS POST)

[Fro99er]

I would obviously be the third townie, Fro99er. Why would you assume that I would hypothesize myself as scum for your behalf?

I'm not saying you should. I'm saying it myself.

[Metal Sonic]

UNVOTE: EspeciallyTheLies; VOTE: Not_Mafia

UNVOTE: Not_Mafia; VOTE: SleepyKrew

UNVOTE: SleepyKrew; VOTE: Not_Mafia

I mean...what is this. It's like you're ready to lynch anyone. Whoever has the biggest wagon.

This is excusable in the fact that we are scrambling for a deadline/compromise lynch.

I am seeing ETL as possible scum and RC might be right.

[EspeciallyTheLies]

MS you would be incorrect and you will be upset about it.

[EspeciallyTheLies]

My only solace in this is that this game is possibly a lost cause and my death may at least help point you in the right direction.

[Metal Sonic]

However it is definite that the only players on the table now are NM and SK. Flash wagons are... Discouraged


I will look at the situation later! Queuing for my dinner!

[Green Crayons]

Fixed for posterity:

can someone summarize claims

FWIW


BBmolla/Tammy/Bellaphant: vanilla townie
lalaladucks: vanilla townie
Not_Mafia/The Bulge: vanilla citizen (claimed x2) and a vanilla villager (claimed x1)
SleepyKrew/Kitty Galore: backup IC (same as dead TTH)
EspeciallyTheLies/Untrod Tripod: vanilla townie


ChaosOmega/Tere/Bob Loblaw: no claim
Fro99er: no claim
Metal Sonic/Glork: no claim
Green Crayons: no claim
KayP: no claim
RedCoyote/Shadoxx8: no claim

I must have gotten Glork and UT/ETL mixed up in my memory.

[Green Crayons]

frogger, why are you still voting the Bella/Tammy/BBmolla slot?

[Fro99er]

Because i'm trying to figure out why RC jumped from NM -> SK -> NM and what it likely means for those two (and for RC, but that's not happening now). Right now I'm leaning voting SK.

[Not_Mafia]

I'll be around til deadline to go back to SK if need be but lets try this

VOTE: RedCoyote

[Fro99er]

I'll be around for deadline too, but why isn't SK voting? He should be voting NM, (or I guess himself if he thinks avoiding a no lynch is preferable, but really he should be voting NM).

To me, his ISO reads as "shit I replaced into scum, I don't want to put in the effort to town up this slot". He replaced into the Kitty slot who made one shitty, faked reads list (post 364), with a bunch of nulls, a couple town leans, and one scum lean. That claim is either truthful and there's no IC, or it's a pretty bad fakeclaim (although it is a normal role, so I disagree with ETL in that sense that it's non-normal).

Pedit: ugghh I was about to vote SK, but that NM vote of RC.....

[Metal Sonic]

UNVOTE:

[Fro99er]

Ok. I obviously town!RC would genuinely be scumreading SKrew when they voted them, and scum!RC wouldn't bus, unbus, bus NM (and then NM bus RC back in the scum!RC case).

Sleepy Krew has been useless, as has his predecessor. His predecessors reads list was just an attempt at pretending to look like they were doing something. Also, SKrew replacing in, admitting he isn't invested in it, not catching up and not voting is so incredibly anti-town at best.

VOTE: Sleepy Krew

[Metal Sonic]

Okay.

I have read a few ISOs, including ETL, UT, NM, Bulge, SK, and Kitty

I was wrong about my suspicion/paranoia of ETL. this is town ETL. UT also looks much better than Signs and Void.

SK is just But I am going to avoid voting him because his claim does not make sense as scum. I can see marquis putting 2 backup encryptors as part of a bastard-not-bastard normal mechanic. I cannot see SK-scum fakeclaiming backup encryptor.

also: I have seen SK scum before but he was part of a 3 player hydra. he was more snappy, or manipulative, so to speak. I have seen more of his towngames. I do find that his play here is worse than those two games. but benefit of doubt.

I am unimpressed with NM + bulge. NM is "trying".... my foot. I know how NM plays, this is not town NM. die.

VOTE: Not_Mafia

[Metal Sonic]

Frogger, vote Not_Mafia, he's flipping scum.

[Metal Sonic]

ETL, you too.

We're lynching Obvious_Mafia today.

[Metal Sonic]

I'll be around til deadline to go back to SK if need be but lets try this

VOTE: RedCoyote

this is bad

i mean

not the targets or the reads, they are fine.

the phrasing and the motivation behind it is bad.

[Not_Mafia]

How does town NM play?

PEdit: How so?

[Metal Sonic]

town NM does not post catchups that are super fake-ish and useless

either he posts them usefully or he doesn't do so at all