MINI 1688 — BEES!!! — game over

[BBmolla]

VOTE: KayP

[KayP]

We've discussed the claim pretty extensively, the vote sucked

Oh, okay, well... I didn't read everything yet because I've been busy, but I'll have things to say on that discussion when I do read it, hopefully.

I find it odd you have nothing better to do with your vote than vote someone who isn't caught up on the game. You

are

caught up... you should have better options, no? Because essentially you're saying that right now, my vote on SK is only invalid/bad because you guys have already discussed the reason for my vote and dealt with it... and you're saying that reasoning is the best thing you have to go on right now.

You are voting me for, essentially, not being caught up. And that's the best you can do? You're caught up, you know everything that's going on, and absolutely everything else that has happened previously is less urgent/suspicious than me making a placeholder vote while I catch up on the game? Really?

[KayP]

VOTE: KayP

And why are

you

voting me?

[BBmolla]

That one early game post that I said makes you scum

[Metal Sonic]

[Metal Sonic]

You guys literally flashwagoned RC even when I said no fucking flashwagons. >_>

[Metal Sonic]

However it is definite that the only players on the table now are NM and SK. Flash wagons are... Discouraged


I will look at the situation later! Queuing for my dinner!

right

[Metal Sonic]

why the fuck did ETL die? she already claimed VT, and would have been 'easier' to lynch which RC case on her and RC flipping town (though I would have defended her but paranoia might get to me)

[Green Crayons]

VOTE: KayP

no

Pick NM or ducks.

[Green Crayons]

I still haven't fully recovered from this weekend (I'm so sunburnt), but... why aren't we doing this?

VOTE: SleepyKrew

Did he not claim the same thing a dead person claimed? I haven't read in full yet but that seems very questionable to me.

Also no.

If there is an IC existing, there can't be two backup ICs.

Which means SK would be lying.

Which means SK would be scum.

Never have I ever heard of two backups for the same role existing in the same game.

I don't even think the mechanics work properly.

You kill the original role, and in its place two spring up simultaneously to replace it?

Even if the mechanics were to work, that's super powerful for town - especially something like IC. Having two backup ICs for a nonexistent IC role makes much more sense.

[Green Crayons]

^^^ You can either accept that SK is backup IC, and is therefore the closest confirmed town we have, or that SK is lying and is not a backup IC, which means he is scum.

But backup IC fits with the setup (role cop); a second back IC fits with the setup (no current, "original" IC for there to be a backup); and a second backup IC being scum alignment is too anti-town with the setup (see again role cop, making it effectively a godfather juxaposed with an already worthless cop variation).

[Metal Sonic]

oh hey, GC, you're here

lala also claimed 'backup IC'

do the scum not have fakeclaims or something? wtf

[Metal Sonic]

VOTE: Obvious_Mafia

this should have been done yesterday

[Metal Sonic]

looking back i think that ETL was spot on with her reads, and was active, and obvtown, so she was killed

im wondering why her over me

[Metal Sonic]

alright yall. i'm leaving in 10 minutes. what are we doing?

I'd be willing to lynch in {RC, lalala, skrew?}

ETL, who is scum

I think you're town trying to herd cats

lol herd cats?

i think one of GC/RC are scum, leaning more towards RC than GC. I definitely feel like they are not scum together but they are both incredibly scummy to me.

i think lalaladucks could be scum. i modded her first newbie game where she caught and stayed on both scum and no one listened to her. she was clear-headed, focused, involved. i dont see any of that here.

i think you and MS are very strongly town, and fro99er by extension via Glork's read.

skrew can go die in a hole i dont even care.

NM is a waffle read for me. the original slot was pretty dead. since NM has replaced in, he's been trying to be involved and I'm less inclined to lynch him than someone else.

am i missing anyone?

[Fro99er]

All day work meeting so I'll be online tonight, but not a big fan of the NK speculation. A bunch of WIFOM.

Ducky, can you clarify the twilight deal. Are you VT or Backup IC?

Don't really see NM as scum...he actually came to the defense of SKrew when the other wagon besides NM was...SKrew. I mean, that would be pretty ballsy.

[KayP]

5 votes? That's quite the wagon for such an early, random stage.

page one scumread for this

I found it!

Why is this scummy?

[KayP]

where the hell is KayP

I gave fair and reasonable warning that I was going to be gone the last day of the deadline, which is why I wanted to sort out my vote ahead of time. Then the deadline got extended and I already had planned to be out of town with family.

[KayP]

Uhh.

Ducks claimed Backup IC, too... so it's not just about SleepyKrew lying at this point or whether he's telling the truth, it's about whether there are THREE backup ICs in this game?

That seems like a stretch. After reading, I could sort of buy the argument that two backup ICs and no actual IC would be a funny setup for the mod to use, but three of them in a normal seems very excessive...

I don't know which of ducks or SleepyKrew would be more likely to be lying, though.

[BBmolla]

5 votes? That's quite the wagon for such an early, random stage.

page one scumread for this

I found it!

Why is this scummy?

Information instead of analysis. And the purpose of the post is simply to look active.

[Green Crayons]

@NM:

In light of:

VOTECOUNT 2.19

(0)

BBmolla

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(0)

ChaosOmega

—

(0)

Fro99er

—

(0)

Metal Sonic

—

(0)

Green Crayons

—

(0)

KayP

—

(2)

SleepyKrew

—

EspeciallyTheLies, Fro99er

(0)

lalaladucks

—

(1)

RedCoyote

—

Not_Mafia

(5)

Not_Mafia

—

KayP, ChaosOmega, RedCoyote, Metal Sonic, Green Crayons

(L-1)

(0)

EspeciallyTheLies

—

(0)

(NO LYNCH)

—

(3)

(NOT VOTING)

—

SleepyKrew, lalaladucks, BBmolla

VOTECOUNT 2.20

(0)

BBmolla

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(0)

ChaosOmega

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(0)

Fro99er

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(0)

Metal Sonic

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(0)

Green Crayons

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(0)

KayP

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(0)

SleepyKrew

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(1)

lalaladucks

—

Not_Mafia

(5)

RedCoyote

—

EspeciallyTheLies, lalaladucks, BBmolla, Green Crayons, Fro99er

(L-1)

(4)

Not_Mafia

—

KayP, ChaosOmega, RedCoyote, Metal Sonic

(L-2)

(0)

EspeciallyTheLies

—

(0)

(NO LYNCH)

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(1)

(NOT VOTING)

—

SleepyKrew

With

11

alive

, it takes

6

votes

to lynch.

VOTECOUNT 2.21

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BBmolla

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(0)

ChaosOmega

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(0)

Fro99er

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(0)

Metal Sonic

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(0)

Green Crayons

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(0)

KayP

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(0)

SleepyKrew

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(0)

lalaladucks

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(6)

RedCoyote

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EspeciallyTheLies, lalaladucks, BBmolla, Green Crayons, Fro99er, Not_Mafia

(L-0)

(4)

Not_Mafia

—

KayP, ChaosOmega, RedCoyote, Metal Sonic

(L-2)

(0)

EspeciallyTheLies

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(0)

(NO LYNCH)

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(1)

(NOT VOTING)

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SleepyKrew

With

11

alive

, it takes

6

votes

to lynch.

I'm all ears about your theory why you were not lynched yesterday.

Because to me it looks like scum didn't want to lynch you yesterday.

[KayP]

Not really... this is my first game on the site and I had read through a couple other games, and in those few other games I read, there was no such crazy fast early wagon. I thought such a fast wagon was peculiar, and was more making that statement because to me, it seemed out of the ordinary and possibly suspicious. But nobody else seemed to have a problem with the wagon, so I was sort of putting it out there for someone more veteran than me to comment on... and seemingly, it was nothing, and this kind of things happens often, just not in the games I read. I actually already explained this right after that post here, when others had similar concerns.

"Information instead of analysis" would be if I had just said "This wagon has five votes" and that's it. And "the purpose of the post" was not to look active, it was to inquire about whether this was standard or not for this website.

[BBmolla]

UNVOTE:

[SleepyKrew]

Catchup should be finished tonight or tomorrow.

[Not_Mafia]

Spoiler:

@NM:

In light of:

VOTECOUNT 2.19

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BBmolla

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ChaosOmega

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Fro99er

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Metal Sonic

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Green Crayons

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KayP

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SleepyKrew

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EspeciallyTheLies, Fro99er

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lalaladucks

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(1)

RedCoyote

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Not_Mafia

(5)

Not_Mafia

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KayP, ChaosOmega, RedCoyote, Metal Sonic, Green Crayons

(L-1)

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EspeciallyTheLies

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(0)

(NO LYNCH)

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(3)

(NOT VOTING)

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SleepyKrew, lalaladucks, BBmolla

VOTECOUNT 2.20

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BBmolla

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(0)

ChaosOmega

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(0)

Fro99er

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(0)

Metal Sonic

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(0)

Green Crayons

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(0)

KayP

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(0)

SleepyKrew

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(1)

lalaladucks

—

Not_Mafia

(5)

RedCoyote

—

EspeciallyTheLies, lalaladucks, BBmolla, Green Crayons, Fro99er

(L-1)

(4)

Not_Mafia

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KayP, ChaosOmega, RedCoyote, Metal Sonic

(L-2)

(0)

EspeciallyTheLies

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(0)

(NO LYNCH)

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(1)

(NOT VOTING)

—

SleepyKrew

With

11

alive

, it takes

6

votes

to lynch.

VOTECOUNT 2.21

(0)

BBmolla

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(0)

ChaosOmega

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(0)

Fro99er

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(0)

Metal Sonic

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(0)

Green Crayons

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(0)

KayP

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(0)

SleepyKrew

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(0)

lalaladucks

—

(6)

RedCoyote

—

EspeciallyTheLies, lalaladucks, BBmolla, Green Crayons, Fro99er, Not_Mafia

(L-0)

(4)

Not_Mafia

—

KayP, ChaosOmega, RedCoyote, Metal Sonic

(L-2)

(0)

EspeciallyTheLies

—

(0)

(NO LYNCH)

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(1)

(NOT VOTING)

—

SleepyKrew

With

11

alive

, it takes

6

votes

to lynch.

I'm all ears about your theory why you were not lynched yesterday.

Because to me it looks like scum didn't want to lynch you yesterday.

There wasn't really any clean opportunity for scum to hammer me yesterday, maybe they weren't around, maybe they saw me as more easily mislynchable in future days than RC