Star Trek Deep Space Nine Season 1 Mafia(game over!)

[RIP]

Little over 300 posts in a game where I subbed in late and my successor had about 200 potst. Making us top 3 poster sooooo
Yea. You are wrong

[Nero Cain]

Can scum straight-up shoot a Hider?

I would assume so.

On the other hand I can sort of see the whole crumb thing (yay for learning new terms) but like... to me that post says that he thought CDB was town.

Isn't this two conflicting statements?

Kling please prove how what I'm doing here is similar to that other gane

How is it different?

AA needs to be replaced. Extend the deadline please.

2nd

A Night 4 Conditional Tracker? What the hell kind of role is that?

Why are you acting confused over his claim?

Lynching lurkers is one thing, lynching one that's about to be replaced is something different. Something scummy.

TBF, I think scum often ignore a certain game to post elsewhere, if she is doing that then I could understand lynching her.

Sinsun's been aggressively wrong the whole game. Why are you reading him as Town?

being wrong doesn't make one scum. You should know this by now.

[Riabi]

How bad is it that RIP just town slipped...

I don't see any townslips, please explain?

ISO'd Zabing slot aka Riabi and I think that Riabi would also be a decent lynch. Mostly for tunneling Senator ...

Yeah, sorry about that... This is probably my biggest weakness in this game (mafia in general, not just this specific game). Tunneling is what I do, from me, it's alignment neutral. For an example off the top of my head, see this game... http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=61563

Kling please prove how what I'm doing here is similar to that other gane

Agreed Kling, do you mind showing a few examples maybe?

No. AA does not need to be replaced. She has been back for 6 days and not a word. Mod has not auto-replaced her already and there's a reason for that. She probably is active in a baddie chat just not here.

I know sinsun changed his vote after this, but I don't like this post at all. Not only is this an association only case, which I've already explained that I don't like, it's based on mod interactions which is just silly. This is a bad case, and it might be scummy.

Trying to lunch the tracker is beyond dumb and scummy

Yes, but, frankly, I don't believe your claim.

So CBd claim to be the guy who mod mentions in my role.
Is that guy bad in the show?
I think scum want to kill a conf town in CBd, call me crazy but idk

Ok, you're crazy. I don't think we should lynch CBD either, there is STILL no case on what he himself has done that is scummy. (If anyone has one, I'd love to hear it.) But there's there's NO WAY he's conf town. Where in the WORLD did you get that idea?

Post 2597 looks pretty damning to me. It does look like RIP lied. He's definitely my strongest scum read so far.

VOTE: RIP

[Riabi]

EBWOP: Also, sorry for the delay. RL has been crazy lately.

[Suzune]

Can scum straight-up shoot a Hider?

I would assume so..

no, that is. Not how a boxer works. A hider cannot be targeted by anything directly it hits the person they are hiding behind. The only way to kill a hider is to kill the person they are hiding behind. Therefore even if the hider hid behind scum they would not die unless the scum died.

[davesaz]

Except that hiders are normally weak, and die if they target scum. See Hider.

[Suzune]

Not the way I am used to playing but I see why it works that way.

[Narninian]

I don't think we should lynch RIP no matter how wrong he is with reads.
Tracking is useful.

[Riabi]

I don't think we should lynch RIP no matter how wrong he is with reads.
Tracking is useful.

*IF* he's the tracker.

[davesaz]

The case against RIP is that the description of the claim sounds weird. He had a weird sounding fakeclaim as scum in a recently finished game. Furthermore the way he's playing, using unsubstantiated and unusually strong statements on other player's alignments without doing much quoting or other use of ingame evidence, feels very much like that same scum game.

I'd also be fine with CDB or Narn.

[Sinsun1]

That's talking about ongoing games? Merely saying she posted in a thread? Discussion about ongoing games seems to have a pretty broad term here.

Anyway, VOTE: RIP. I've been running the scenario in my head constantly. His role essentially does not come into play until baddies almost outnumber town. Now I remember a role I use to be, there was myself and another that were a unique role known as a Kill-Switch. We were not on a time and we did not know who each other were. Our win-con was to survive until Day 5 with the other one dying and then we'd kill everyone in the game and win. I made it to Day 4 and almost made it to Day 5 with lynching the other Kill-Switch. However, a town role that was super OP (he could "gift" anyone any role possible) gifted us the "lover" role and had a vig shoot the other guy effectively killing me at the same time. Which to be honest, thinking back on it was complete BS considering I did well to make it as far as I did with making things up only to be cut down by a guy who could give anyone any role in the game with no limitations.

So anyway, my point is, I made things up to survive until the day I needed to survive until. RIP's lying slips and the fact he claimed what sounds more of a useless role than a useful one is what has me on edge about his claim. He says he can only track after Day 4 ends, so he has 3 nights he could do nothing? Now correct me if I'm wrong, but the lack of power roles in this game for town, it makes no sense to make what few we would have have a forced time limit on when they can use it. I mean 1-2 days, fine. But 4 whole days of not being able to use it? No, I do not buy it.

[Suzune]

Thinking about this hider thing, is it not possible that the hider just hid behind the millar. The town was not sure whether or not to lynch the millar on day one, perhaps the hider figured that there was no way the millar would get night killed since the high chance the town would just lynch them. The millar is a town role, while a negative town role, still a safe spot to hide. That is something else to consider. I cannot seem to find a reference the idea that the hider hid behind CDB.

Today is day four that means if RIP is telling the truth then we should be able to see whether or not he is the tracker. If there is someone that we reasonably believe is town we can check to see if they are telling the truth based on the results they get. It would still be a gamble, but it would give us the chance to see what is happening and perchance clear up this bizarre claim. Having information is something the town does not seem to have right now, losing our potential information role is a dangerous play in my opinion.

[LittleGumball]

The thing about RIP is, we can always lynch him later if his results come up bs.

I have a thought in mind but I don't think that I should say it because it would probably look like rolefishing. However I will say that I don't think mafia would kill Hostile, especially because of that awful fakeclaim. And Senator said he didn't try to shoot Hostile.

Also, assuming mafia wouldn't kill Hostile, someone somewhere stopped mafia night 2. Therefore, one person either blocked mafia and knows it or protected town and knows it. That's something to keep in mind.

[MonkeyMan576]

Vote Count 4.03- Up to post 2684

Accidently changed vote count but 4.04 is correct.

Mod Notes: Seeking replacement for ArcAngel9. Displaced was prodded. Day will not be extended unless we start seeing more activity.

With 15 alive, it takes 8 to lynch

Day ends Wednseday, July 8th, 11 PM USA Mountain Time or when a lynch occurs

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[Titus]

I thought I unvoted.

VOTE: unvoted

[Klingoncelt]

For those wondering about RIP's other game, here's the link to his replace-in point:

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 0#p6849170


Just so you guys know, I was Scum with him, I got lynched, as did the rest of the team, RIP dragged that game out all by himself with his bullshit stories.

I'm very proud of you for that, RIP.





But I still want you to swing here. Just saying.

[Thor665]

I am displeased with how many people are saying they are okay with CDB as a lynch target - while failing to vote him.

Go check his last post and remind me again why he's not already swinging?

[Suzune]

Why you in such a hurry to end the day Thor?

[Nero Cain]

I don't see any townslips, please explain?

Thor already talked about it and disagreed with me. What do you think?

I don't think that I should say it because it would probably look like rolefishing.

Why are you worried about looking like a rolefisher?

[Nero Cain]

Can scum straight-up shoot a Hider?

I would assume so..

no, that is. Not how a boxer works. A hider cannot be targeted by anything directly it hits the person they are hiding behind. The only way to kill a hider is to kill the person they are hiding behind. Therefore even if the hider hid behind scum they would not die unless the scum died.

Hider is a weak role and dies if he hides behind scum but you are right they are untargetable so either CBD is scum or scum shot Saint.

[Sinsun1]

Can scum straight-up shoot a Hider?

I would assume so..

no, that is. Not how a boxer works. A hider cannot be targeted by anything directly it hits the person they are hiding behind. The only way to kill a hider is to kill the person they are hiding behind. Therefore even if the hider hid behind scum they would not die unless the scum died.

Hider is a weak role and dies if he hides behind scum but you are right they are untargetable so either CBD is scum or scum shot Saint.

Scum could have also shot Max which would have been ineffective due to him hiding. But at this point there's not enough cards on the table to conclude exactly what went on. That being said, I believe CDB is scum either way and RIP's claim is so far out there that I believe him scum as well.

[RIP]

Kling, let's say I'm scum.
I want to survive and do what on day 5?

Now imagine I'm town, I survive tonight if scum don't kill me. And I get to track someone.
You guys can kill me if I don't get result or u don't like it.
Thing is you will do a favor to scum killing me.

You don't lose anything.
If scum don't waste a kill on me I'll track someone.
Reveal and then you guys can lynch me to prove my result.

Deal?

[RIP]

Anyone like rica I voting for me is very bad, there's no reason to lynch me today. This is why I claimed.

[RIP]

Sinsun why u think I make a far out claim as scum?
My claim is simple I'm a conditional tracker. The guy I'm in the show is a perfect fit.
They think he is a spy.
I'm also friends with bashir.

And CBd claimed that, so unless they were given bashir as fake claim and put his name in my role so I vouch for him, I don't think how dumb you are to think I'll link myself to my wolf buddy.

As Kling how good I did to distance myself from her and other scum in that game she post

[RIP]

VOTE: peregrine
Narm is getting a free pass for now