Mini 1679: Baccano! Mafia - Game Over

[Mainez]

that's even more suspicious lol i'm out of here, time for math.

cat should do some math too. meow.

[Big The Cat]

Vote Invisible Man before you go~

meow.

[Varsoon]

CooLDoG, BROseidon, and Cheetory were all in there. I can't recall off the top of my head if anyone else in this game was.

Plenty of people watched that game, too. On top of that, I kinda made it clear that based on those crumbs I knew Big was town, which might've been a flag for whoever blocked him?

I'm actually a deflecting role, myself. I've been deflecting any ability that targets me so that it would target Jazzmyn's slot instead. Why? Jazzmyn claimed to be bulletproof. I was kinda hoping this could prevent a Night Kill. I've done this action every night so far.

[notquitethere]

Varsoon

Ummm, NQT, I think Immortals flipped so far were town-alligned.

Fact: Only Immortals in the setting can

eat

Immortals. Fact: my town win-con says to defeat all threats to town, not just the mafia. Conjecture: there is an immortal serial killer who is eating other immortals (and maybe gaining their memories/powers?)

I'm assuming by the way that Big has been hard-defending Mainez and hard-pushing NQT, he's maybe got an innocent/guilty.
I don't know.

I know for a fact that that's impossible and you're really basing your trust here on the wooliest of players. Spell out to me a bit clearer why you're following Big here.

Big

VOTE: NotQuiteThere

I should have done this yesterday! Poor Alien Man!

Why are you voting for me? It's easy to cry crocodile tears over Kalimar but you oversaw his lynch yesterday. You allege to have crumbed something but you're not clear on what. So spit it out. If you've got a reason why I should be lynched, let's here it.

West

You've lurked pretty much all game. What's your prognosis?

[Big The Cat]

Okey dokie!

Varsoon-Man outed me already anyway.

I'm a Rolecop! Big BRO rolecopped Invisible Man before I replaced in.

The result is likely to be for a baddie, but Big wasn't sure. So Big tried to scumhunt and got Alien Man, but was wrong

Your turn, Invisible Man~

[Big The Cat]

Ooh, and I was roleblocked last night

~Big

[Varsoon]

VOTE: unvote
I, too, want to see Big's claim laid out.
I've chosen to believe him so far because of the specificity of his crumb in regards to me, explicitly. It was very much a means of indicating only to me that he had a potentially investigative role.

I also follow you on flavor. I mentioned the same thing earlier--there is very likely an immortal player capable of killing other immortals.
We have yet to see any flips from other 'villains' of the series, though. There very likely may be a scum team yet?

PEDIT: Oh, makes sense. Rolecop.
VOTE: NQT
I'll follow on this.

[Mainez]

UNVOTE:

i need to think about this. tomorrow.

[notquitethere]

Varsoon

There very likely may be a scum team yet?

Unless there was a vig on night one, it's quite possible. Cheetory's end of day descriptions seem to suggest it. Maybe more than one mafia though? On the Flying Pussyfoot there were at least three dangerous factions.

--

Big

, engage your brain. If you're really a rolecop you'll know that killing me is NOT pro-town. It's super-shady that you would decide to lynch me on the basis of this role given what it is. Damn, I've probably already said too much but this has really cemented it for me. To prove you know what it is, give me the last letter of the role name.

--

Everyone

Big claims to know what my role is. If he does know what it is then he knows it's a pro-scum move to try and lynch me on that basis. (It's also pro-scum for me to claim it, which Big should be able to confirm if he's telling the truth.)

[Big The Cat]

Claim entirely. Your role looks like a scum role. No more stalling.

-Sonic

[notquitethere]

I don't know how you could think that. I'm half-suspecting that you're lying, trying to goad me into a claim. Prove that you know what it is. What's the last letter?

I'm not claiming unless there's a serious chance of me dying anyway. It's seriously anti-town otherwise.

[Big The Cat]

Notquitethere is an Enabler.

I am of the opinion that it enables Daytalk, hence an Encryptor by just another name.

His repeated attempts to stall his claim and generate a piecemeal claim even after I have fullclaimed is a strong scumtell. Bullshit going by "What's the last letter" is entirely inappropriate when I have been serious about this.

Notquitethere is scum.

Lynch him.

[Big The Cat]

I had originally attempted to push for Kalimar yesterday because it wasn't a true foolproof black-and-white guilty. I genuinely thought Kalimar was scum, but I was wrong.

Notquitethere has consistently been scummy as pointed out by other players already. His response to my guilty today is a scum reponse.

Lynch him.

[Big The Cat]

-Sonic

[Varsoon]

I'm leaning towards voting NQT here.
His flip informs further lynches really well given claims now.

[Big The Cat]

Nah, if he's town we're fucked.

Betting the game on this, let's go.

-Sonic

[Aristophanes]

oh we are back.

considering that Jazz got eaten and no one got killed like the previous night, i'm thinking that scum's kill failed and the SK ate Jazz, yes/no?

also, it looks like i may not have to reassess my reads hmm because Big The Cat is right uppppppppppppp there.

Why are we assuming SK now?

Scum kills could be "eating" people and the other death N1 a vig.

Are you not reassessing your reads because Big is still alive or you think Big killed Jazz or...?

Aaand Ninja'd a few times. Will read.

[Aristophanes]

Wait a minute, I'm a couple pages behind apparently..
Lol
Will read lots and do something.

[notquitethere]

I can't even begin to comprehend how Big could think I enable Day Talk. But sure: I AM AN ENABLER.

Full Claim:

I'm

Mary Beriam

In the show she's a small girl that's taken hostage. I guess that's why Cheetory made her the enabler: she's powerless on her own, but is used as a pawn by others.

I breadcrumbed this in my very first post:

M

an, Tony was just one day from retirement.

A

in't that always the way?

R

egardless, we've got scum to catch and knowing the setting this time the mafia might actually literally be the mafia.

Y

ou guys probably have probably never heard of me, I'm NQT and I'm here to listen to the Baccano! theme tune and catch bad guys and I'm all out of theme tune.

So long as I'm alive, certain town powers work.

Now can you see why it was so bad Big wanted to lynch me based on my role alone? He's scum trying to make a final push at what he takes to be LYLO. (You can see him almost gloating over it in #815.)

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Varsoon

I'm leaning towards voting NQT here.
His flip informs further lynches really well given claims now.

You're either blind or scum. Count how many players there are, work out how many night kills there could be, think about the probable size of any scum team: most likely, we're already at LYLO. There won't be any more lynches if you kill me.

[Varsoon]

Why are you fearmongering over this being LYLO?
:l
You know who can crumb things too? Scum.
:l

[Big The Cat]

Other half of the hydra here. Haven't fully read through because work and other game priorities, but yes we are town rolecop. Wondering if NQT could be enabling the BP/Immortal business instead of daytalk...

Plan on fully catching up tonight

-Froggy

[notquitethere]

Why are you fearmongering over this being LYLO?

Why are you downplaying it? There's 8 players. Mislynch me and then it'll be 7. If there are at least three mafia and a serial killer they then they already outnumber town before they start killing. Even if it was a vigilante, if there are at least 3 scum and I'm killed they need only one successful nightkill to outnumber everyone. Surely I'm not the only one who sees this?

You know who can crumb things too? Scum.
:l

Why would I lie with a flavor name? There could be powers that can spot them or I could be counterclaimed.

Big's assumption that Enabler=scum is so wrong it's absurd. You don't see anything shifty in this?

Aristo

, there are players that replaced out a month ago that put more effort in than you. Let's hear your thoughts.

Wondering if NQT could be enabling the BP/Immortal business instead of daytalk...

Wow, NOW you're engaging your brain?

[Varsoon]

In literally every themed game I've played, scum have been given fake-claims that are flavor-fitting and that can be claimed without counterclaim.

I can see you AND Big being town.
I think maybe we should just hunt elsewhere than you two.

[Varsoon]

So, there's scum within Mainez and Aristophanes
And then there's likely two scum between West9, Toast, JohnnyFarrar

You guys figure it out.
I promise you that I'm town.

[Big The Cat]

Wondering if NQT could be enabling the BP/Immortal business instead of daytalk...

Wow, NOW you're engaging your brain?

Brain has been engaged the whole time. Just been super busy with work to reply in depth.

Honest question...why do you have to be rude?

-Froggy