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Post Post #150 (ISO) » Tue Jul 07, 2015 1:58 pm

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Kuro Matsumi (3) - Benjamin Applebaum, Voidedmafia, Varsoon

Varsoon (2) - Kuro Matsumi, InflatablePie
lufan131 (2) - Cabd, singersigner
Benjamin Applebaum (2) - ZZZX, Bitmap
Xtoxm (1) - farside22
Cabd (1) - Profgessor Emotion
Nachomamma8 (1) - Xtoxm
ZZZX (1) - Chandra Nalaar
singersigner (1) - Gin and Sonic

Not voting (6) - Elbirn, Bins, lufan131, Marquis, Nachomamma8, pidgey

With 20 alive, it takes 11 to lynch. Deadline is July 21, 13:00 GMT-7 or in (expired on 2015-07-21 13:00:00).
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Post Post #151 (ISO) » Tue Jul 07, 2015 1:59 pm

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In post 148, Varsoon wrote:Yeah, not to make a defense lufan's lackluster entry, but I think it's problematic to assume that failure to engage equals consciously avoiding engagement.
Why does it feel like so many players are trying to scum-read every little thing?
Feels disingenuous.

P-EDIT: But it fits the bill that Singer would sign on.

Is this supposed to be some kind of shitty mudsling at singer?
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Post Post #152 (ISO) » Tue Jul 07, 2015 2:01 pm

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Didn't intend that as a dig/mudslinging. I'm saying that Singer's being consistent here, even if it is over something I disagree with.
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Post Post #153 (ISO) » Tue Jul 07, 2015 2:03 pm

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VOTE: lufan

Better than anything else that's happening.
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Post Post #154 (ISO) » Tue Jul 07, 2015 2:10 pm

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In post 45, Chandra Nalaar wrote:/in

This is an alt.

Is this public? Who are you an alt of?
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Post Post #155 (ISO) » Tue Jul 07, 2015 2:12 pm

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I'm not going to go on and on about why like I've been dragged into doing in the past, but I am Cephrir. That's all I intend to say on the matter. I've made comprehensive posts on the subject in other games if you really care.
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Post Post #156 (ISO) » Tue Jul 07, 2015 2:19 pm

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I don't, I just wanted to know if there was a way I could read you better.
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Post Post #157 (ISO) » Tue Jul 07, 2015 2:25 pm

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Re 142:
I could get behind that, but i got bigger fish to fry, while i also dont like it when people post no content, the way Evil Face Man answered my question and the way i was wagoned right after makes me think he's a better lynch.
Besides i don't get how that post shows he was following the thread...
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Post Post #158 (ISO) » Tue Jul 07, 2015 2:26 pm

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So you could get behind it even though you completely missed the point, but you won't because you need to fry a bigger fish that you aren't particularly frying?
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Post Post #159 (ISO) » Tue Jul 07, 2015 2:26 pm

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In post 153, Chandra Nalaar wrote:VOTE: lufan

Better than anything else that's happening.

How is that better than anything else that's happening? Lynching a player with zero content?
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Post Post #160 (ISO) » Tue Jul 07, 2015 2:27 pm

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In post 159, Kuro Matsumi wrote:
In post 153, Chandra Nalaar wrote:VOTE: lufan

Better than anything else that's happening.

How is that better than anything else that's happening? Lynching a player because they have zero content?


Fixed that for you.
I'm glad that with the failure for my mislynch to take off, you've graduated to looking for a bigger fish.
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Post Post #161 (ISO) » Tue Jul 07, 2015 2:28 pm

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In post 158, Chandra Nalaar wrote:So you could get behind it even though you completely missed the point, but you won't because you need to fry a bigger fish that you aren't particularly frying?

Yes, because i also dislike people not commenting on what's going on, but i find a bigger issue with people evadig questions with answers that appear to be answring it but in reality aren't, and with people forming wagons on townies that are actually questioning their actions.
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Post Post #162 (ISO) » Tue Jul 07, 2015 2:29 pm

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In post 93, Profgessor Emotion wrote:from what I do know about Varsoon based on what I hear and (what I think) I've seen he's confident enough to play without really thinking things through. I will probably defer more to Notsci or nacho, or anyone else who knows him better than me but I do like him based on the fact that he isn't really willing to follow me, and for similar reasons I like both you and voided.

This isn't following for me.

In post 99, Kuro Matsumi wrote:I am sorry Voided-senpai, but he didn't. All he did was state 2 things, one that Benjamin-san had been policy lynched in previous games, and two that there was a fast growing wagon on him during RVS... which is something that always happens in RVS, so im still in the dark about how he got policy lynch out of that.

First off, Voided-senpai? I'm not nearly old enough on this site nor experienced enough to be called senpai, nor am I particularly keen on it as flavor text.

Secondly, the connection is Benjamin has been PL'd before>a fast wagon grows on him (even if it's RVS)>smells like a possible quicklynch>Hold up, people! If Varsoon's experience with Notsci is accurate, it's not a bad jump to make, although it's a very hasty one.

In post 100, InflatablePie wrote:can I just call Varsoon and Prof both scum or is it too early to be cocky about things

It's never too early to be cocky, but maybe too early to be openly cocky. If that makes sense.

In post 108, Profgessor Emotion wrote:I feel like if I keep posting, my real reads will become known before I can talk to mastin about it!

but, maybe.

If my history with her is an indication, it's going to happen anyways.

In post 112, Kuro Matsumi wrote:
In post 110, Varsoon wrote:@Kuro: An excuse for... what?
The wagon on you has formed because of what I've outlined--your reactions to my response fly in the face of the reality of the game.

I do not know, and honestly, i do not care either anymore, nor care about your reasons for thinking Benjamin-san was a policy lynch.
Also do not act like you're the one that formed the wagon on me, you just sheeped voided's reason.

Funny, I don't see any sort of indication Varsoon's taking credit for it. I like this wagon more.

And even more, given how hard Kuro is going on this.
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Post Post #163 (ISO) » Tue Jul 07, 2015 2:30 pm

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So you really think that Varsoon is so intimidated your question that he's intentionally decided not to answer it and hoped you wouldn't notice?

I hate scumhunting by assuming scum are idiots.
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Post Post #164 (ISO) » Tue Jul 07, 2015 2:33 pm

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@Voided...in what world does "the wagon on you has formed because of what I've outlined" not constitute as taking credit...
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Post Post #165 (ISO) » Tue Jul 07, 2015 2:38 pm

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In post 135, Kuro Matsumi wrote:I don't understand any of the last 4 posts...

Say hello to Metal Sonic.

Btw, are you drunk yet, MS?

In post 141, Cabd wrote:Lufan had tons of posts to discuss, plenty of people to take a stance on. Instead he chose to comment on Mac's post about his attempts to become a hot mess of a boozehound.

Why?

Me and my vote say because he's scum avoiding the game moving at a steady clip. And that it's very possible that one of his buddies was under at least SOME scrutiny at the time, and felt too awkward to drive convo elsewhere but also wasn't willing to bus quite yet.

Possible. I'll keep this in mind.

In post 158, Chandra Nalaar wrote:So you could get behind it even though you completely missed the point, but you won't because you need to fry a bigger fish that you aren't particularly frying?

It's like all these reasons are just rolling in!

In post 164, singersigner wrote:@Voided...in what world does "the wagon on you has formed because of what I've outlined" not constitute as taking credit...

I saw it more as credit for it being a thing, not forming it.
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Post Post #166 (ISO) » Tue Jul 07, 2015 2:41 pm

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He literally used the word, "formed"...
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Post Post #167 (ISO) » Tue Jul 07, 2015 2:42 pm

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Yeah, I was referring to the weird play coming from Kuro's slot that people have also noticed. I re-expressed those points and figured that the wagon was likely forming up because of them.
I guess it's cool to take things out of context nowadays.
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Post Post #168 (ISO) » Tue Jul 07, 2015 2:43 pm

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UNVOTE:
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Post Post #169 (ISO) » Tue Jul 07, 2015 2:47 pm

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Yeah, as in, y'know, the wagon formed.
It didn't form BECAUSE I made points about Kuro.
It formed BECAUSE of Kuro's play, which I have explained/outlined as scummy in my posts.

It's not fair enough to say that I'm definitely not taking credit for the Kuro wagon?
Do we really have to argue the intent of my own rhetoric?
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Post Post #170 (ISO) » Tue Jul 07, 2015 2:51 pm

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In post 147, singersigner wrote:
In post 82, lufan131 wrote:
In post 81, Gin and Sonic wrote:side note: I (mac) will be going to a festival this weekend and therefore unable to post because i'll be ingesting copious amounts of alcohol and watching various acts whilst knee deep in mud

it should be fun!

WOOO! PARTY TIME!

Post in question^^^

Ok, so I definitely think Cabd is onto something. How I interpret this: he responded immediately to the Sonic post, which implies that he was following the thread, only to comment on something completely irrelevant. It's too early to assume why like you did, Cabd, but I agree that if he was indeed following the thread, it reads as nervous scum not knowing how to get involved into the thread.

unvote
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I disagree and you feel kinda sheepy. It also makes the assumption that he was following the thread. I think it could be just as likely that he's not read the game

In post 143, Cabd wrote:It would have been forgivable if he'd then broken a sweat and dug into the game from there. But he did not.

This, I could agree with.

In post 145, Cabd wrote:The people getting scrutiny at that point in time were varsoon and the hydra of marangal-mastin. And mastin appears to be in the middle of a summer map, so just varsoon and mara, really. My current working theory is that lufan is scum with one of the two of those.

:/

in any case, it took you 4 pages to make a serious vote. It took me placing a fire under your ass to make a very serious comment on the current game state. You're a vet, and he's (I think) a newb. You were also very obviously following along the game, so why did it take
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Post Post #171 (ISO) » Tue Jul 07, 2015 2:52 pm

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Questioning it first and then going with it is about as not sheepy as it gets.
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Post Post #172 (ISO) » Tue Jul 07, 2015 2:53 pm

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As a note, these people should check in soon or it's likely going to be a very unpleasant game for them constantly playing catchip:

5. Elbirn
9. Bins
12. Marquis
16. pidgey

Also, Voided feels like he's talking out of the side of his mouth for the sake of looking involved. :igmeou:

Varsoon wrote:Yeah, as in, y'know, the wagon formed.
It didn't form BECAUSE I made points about Kuro.
It formed BECAUSE of Kuro's play,
which I have explained/outlined as scummy in my posts.


It's not fair enough to say that I'm definitely not taking credit for the Kuro wagon?
Do we really have to argue the intent of my own rhetoric?

@Varsoon...you're playing a game of "which came first, then chicken or the egg?" You're literally saying the same thing, but in different ways, which basically looked like you taking credit for the wagon whether you intended to or not. Arguing you didn't just looks like you're backtracking because someone called you out on it. :igmeou:
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Post Post #173 (ISO) » Tue Jul 07, 2015 2:55 pm

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My new work has me running from place to place, some of it is outside in the sunlight and humidity. I'm no longer a desk jockey like I was in Fresno, where I could post 24/7. Phone posting is difficult for various reasons as well.

You're being vague, what is YOUR stance on lufan?

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Post Post #174 (ISO) » Tue Jul 07, 2015 3:00 pm

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In post 145, Cabd wrote:The people getting scrutiny at that point in time were varsoon and the hydra of marangal-mastin. And mastin appears to be in the middle of a summer map, so just varsoon and mara, really. My current working theory is that lufan is scum with one of the two of those.


There's also absolutely no way you could actually be thinking I'm scum with my entrance.

dead serious about this.

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